An Apology to Bashir and Lebanon’s Martyrs by M.Akl

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

The point is, when you want to give, you should be prepared to get back. If the Kataeb gave land to Sharon, they did nothing to get it back. They didn't even support with A WORD. 7abibi i heard batrak with my own ears say "3aql rawa bidima2iyi turab al mintaqa" about Aakl Hashem. You know who Aakl Hashem was? A highly ranked lahdian who existed in the ninetees and was blown to pieces and sent to hell by our resistance with the help of patriotic southern Christians.

They were and still are Zionists with excellency. Don't call collaboraters with Syria traitors if you're not willing to call Bachir a traitor for being the first collaborater with Israel. And don't come to me with the "we had to" phrase. All collaboraters do so because of it, some because they "have to eat". No excuses for treason. People were tortured for years and yet refused to change the words that said "NO to occupation". There's something called dignity that's at stake here. How can anyone collaborate with Israel after it did what it did to the region? Who destroyed our LIA airlines? Yet they went crawling to Israel. History repeats itself you know, once bought always bought. Once a traitor always a traitor. Now family and relatives are still doing the crawling.

I agree with you have said but we should not be selective. Israeli traitors and Syrian traitors are the same thing. They both occupied our country and they both caused destruction to our people. They went with Israel and you have gone with Syria. no difference.

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

The point is, when you want to give, you should be prepared to get back. If the Kataeb gave land to Sharon, they did nothing to get it back. They didn't even support with A WORD. 7abibi i heard batrak with my own ears say "3aql rawa bidima2iyi turab al mintaqa" about Aakl Hashem. You know who Aakl Hashem was? A highly ranked lahdian who existed in the ninetees and was blown to pieces and sent to hell by our resistance with the help of patriotic southern Christians.

They were and still are Zionists with excellency. Don't call collaboraters with Syria traitors if you're not willing to call Bachir a traitor for being the first collaborater with Israel. And don't come to me with the "we had to" phrase. All collaboraters do so because of it, some because they "have to eat". No excuses for treason. People were tortured for years and yet refused to change the words that said "NO to occupation". There's something called dignity that's at stake here. How can anyone collaborate with Israel after it did what it did to the region? Who destroyed our LIA airlines? Yet they went crawling to Israel. History repeats itself you know, once bought always bought. Once a traitor always a traitor. Now family and relatives are still doing the crawling.

Dalzi, when it comes to survival, collaboration becomes a minor issue. it isn't as if bachir went to israel on a sunny summer day and chose to work with them. the Christian community in Lebanon was facing extermination, and the available choices were very limited.

in 1978, plans and alliances in the whole region were thrown upside down after the camp david agreement. israel, who architected henry kissinger plan to replace the Lebanese Christians by the displaced palestinians and solve its problem for good, was now helping the Chrisitans fight the syrians off. and by the same token, the syrians who entered Lebanon to help the Christians out, were now helping the palestinians out and enganged in bloody battles against the Christians.

maybe pierre gemayel and camille chamoun were to blame for not being able to read the outcome of the iseraeli-egyptian agreement in camp david.

but regardless, where do you draw the line for survival?

[DITOU]

Originally Posted by jamez29

An Apology for every lebanese martyr but i have some thing to say about bashir who supported the ktaeab royas who ripped off my family in lebanon allah la ayriddo he is not better than who was killed from my family friends because they have money and refused to pay the kataeab ryes in dbayeh GEORGE KHOIURY

OHHHHH well well well maybe now you can understand why many of us hate el "chahid" rafik hariri ! same damage different ways ! in the end they both had the same bad impact on peoples lifes ripping them off... you know killing is not only by shooting you in the head !!!!! i think you are clever enough and can understand what i am saying here !
they were equal in turning our lives to hell they should be treated equaly in martyrdom .

Bashir cooperated with israel ? Hariri cooperated with syria even worse he gave syria the keys of our capital Beirut !!!! so why should we mourn him and remember him more then any of our martyrs ?

and today top of the pop you are allied with the same kataeb / LF .....thanks for the laugh .

people wil never learn ! stokholm syndrom ?????

they both died paying the price of their choices and bad politics ! what is sad is the people who did not learn anything and still run after worthless memories to feed their grudge and hate toward their own brothers and sisters this is a shame and a disgarce !

[joe tayyar]

Originally Posted by DITOU

OHHHHH well well well maybe now you can understand why many of us hate el "chahid" rafik hariri ! same damage different ways ! in the end they both had the same bad impact on peoples lifes ripping them off... you know killing is not only by shooting you in the head !!!!! i think you are clever enough and can understand what i am saying here !
they were equal in turning our lives to hell they should be treated equaly in martyrdom .

Bashir cooperated with israel ? Hariri cooperated with syria even worse he gave syria the keys of our capital Beirut !!!! so why should we mourn him and remember him more then any of our martyrs ?

and today top of the pop you are allied with the same kataeb / LF .....thanks for the laugh .

people wil never learn ! stokholm syndrom ?????

they both died paying the price of their choices and bad politics ! what is sad is the people who did not learn anything and still run after worthless memories to feed their grudge and hate toward their own brothers and sisters this is a shame and a disgarce !

I prefer to die one shot in the head instead of dying slowly everyday