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We always hear the loyalists saying on TV that the experience with the opposition having the telt mou3attel was a bad experience.

Can someone enlighten us why was it a bad experience?

All I remember that was delayed was the budget, while the opposition was asking for all sanadik be canceled, Siniora wanted to cancel the ones he likes and keep others. So I see the request of the opposition here to have been fair.
And regardless of the sanadik or delay of the budget, the government has not approved a budget for years, and then ma ken khassa the opposition.

So I hope someone tells us exactly why was it a bad experience. Is it because the loyalists did not have 100% ability to do whatever they want of corruption, theft, and used the government as their own backyard?
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Thank you for actually attempting a reply.
My question is, how did the opposition 3attalit inside the government. I mean and this is also for bruno, when we talk about telt damin ou ta3til, we can't talk about the 4 years, we can only talk about the last year in which the opposition and the loyalists were together int he government, and it is about this period that Siniora and others speak when they say we had a bad experience.

So during this period, how did the opposition 3attalit the government?

Now dear SputNik, the telt el damen is not only for the HA weapons (although you guys seem to breathe, dream, wake u and sleep on that topic). There are many issues that Siniora and his gang inside the government wanted to decide alone, like the majliss doustouri te3yinet (I mean what a majliss it would be in a country like Lebanon when it is appointed by one side only), the sanadik (South, displaced...), the holidays and holy Friday... Those I can think of just now.

Our problem is that unfortunately, with the political alignments that happened, the ministers inside the government like Kataeb, LF, Moawad... never ever questioned anything Siniora decided. So unfortunately, I as an opposition person, feel that my interests will never be looked after if they do not fit with those of Siniora, I do not feel that someone inside the government can actually stand up and tell Siniora, here you are mistaken, here we should look into it....I feel all they do is yobessmo.

And this is why, I, as opposition who lives in this country, who makes more than 50% of the Lebanese people, I am worried on what this bunch will decide and how it will lead.

You can be a feb 14 supporter, you can't deny the fact that Hariri and Siniora have been ruling for over 15 years, and unfortunately, a lot of the things that we should have had, basics are not available to us, not to mention the debt and economic decisions.

So I am worried, nothing to do with HA weapons.
First of all i'm not a die-hard supporter for either sides.
HA Should keep their weapons from now till Israel goes out of the map.

The opposition tends to demonstrate that el telt el damin is on high demand just so major decisions in the country can't be made by 14March alone, specially ones that can put the National Army in conflict with HA.
How did the telt el damin 3atal in the previous government ? (The way 14march view it) el ta3yinit el 2idarieh couldn't take off, el majliss el distouri, el miwazani, i'm not saying that it's the mo3arada fault however we live in a country where deals takeover everything else so even with el telt el damin both sides are eventually going to make a deal, usually under the table sort of deal to process any conflict in, I'm not trying to rub it in your face but are you sure HA and Berri will fight for telt el damin like they used to before just because of your fears alone ? To me as long as HA has their weapons out of discussion they are ok with everything else, and i mean everything. (el mokawami ilna w el 3amar ilkon) as if HA doesn't know how far el fassied goes in 14march and how much giving them this equation will increase el fassied.

Yes Sanioura did rob the country, people say harriri is rich enough not to rip us too but people in his team will take the honor, this is Lebanon, hypocrisy, rich stealing to get richer is all part of how the system goes. (Unfortunately.)
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M14 did! They won and they rule. See you in 4 years...
Everyone but you won...So sure...See you in 4 years...lol
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M14 did! They won and they rule. See you in 4 years...
What did you win? What did I miss?
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What did you win? What did I miss?
there is no difference between LF,FM and psp kataab and all other 14 march parts..kelna rbe7na ;)
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there is no difference between LF,FM and psp kataab and all other 14 march parts..kelna rbe7na ;)
Yes indeed. Big orgy to elect Berri. You left batrak Sfeir out of this orgy. 3eib 3aleik!
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there is no difference between LF,FM and psp kataab and all other 14 march parts..kelna rbe7na ;)
maybe then you should all decide if you want Berri or not ;) because kill wa7ad bi ghanni mouwwel shikil.
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there is no difference between LF,FM and psp kataab and all other 14 march parts..kelna rbe7na ;)
Lol...Add that to this thread, as yet another empty slogan. The best by far!

Continue like that, and you'll be declared the winner hehe...Got another one?
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there is no difference between LF,FM and psp kataab and all other 14 march parts..kelna rbe7na ;)
That is just priceless !
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there is no difference between LF,FM and psp kataab and all other 14 march parts..kelna rbe7na ;)
Oui, comme Jacques Martin le disait a' l'ecole des fans:

Tout le monde a gagne'
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