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View Poll Results: Do you endorse an FPM-SSNP electoral alliance?
I endorse an FPM-SSNP electoral alliance. 86 68.80%
I am against such an alliance and will not support it. 18 14.40%
I am against such an alliance and it will affect my perception of FPM 9 7.20%
I will not vote SSNP even if they are on FPM's list. 12 9.60%
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Hope you won't be offended but I am seriously wondering if you have been follwing closely lebanese politics recently. In 2006 a big crisis started about something called a blocking third and it almost led us to civil war, or actually it did lead us to a civil war that luckily didn't last too long. When under the threat of weapons the opposition (to whom you belong) obtained the blocking third, 1 of the ministerial seats was give to Ali Kanso from SSNP. So FPM and SSNP are allerady more than allies. The blocking third claim means that FPM trusts SSNP as it gave it the keys of a blocking third.

If you are against the alliance between FPM and SSNP then you are against all what was done since 2006...you probably are and I congratulate for that but you keep considering yourself as FPM by nostalgy I guess...
both the United States and the Soviet Union were also allies fighting Hitler off.
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I said since 2006 and the beginning of the DT demos...what you guys call el trén 3al sekké on may7 is to me a civil war, you know and I know that this decision from HA could have turned into a long civil war...
Those demos happened in the last month of 2006. As for the rest, well the 2 decisions were also declarations of war on HA. But that's going way out of topic now.
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Blocking third in 2005? is it? where did you bring that from? kif farat then? what triggered the shiia resignation? some ministers changed sides? then the lesson is that the blocking third must be composed of reliable allies? no? then ali kanso is, isn't he?
So u say there was no third+1 given to HA/Amal/Lahoud in 2005? Amnesia hits real hard it seems. It doesn't matter if Rizk and Metri switched sides, bottom line the loyalists agreed to give the 1/3 +1 to HA and Amal and Lahoud but did not accept to have FPM in the gov.
As for the rest of ur blabbering, I'll pass. Once you decide to engage in a serious fruitful discussion, we'll continue.
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Those demos happened in the last month of 2006. As for the rest, well the 2 decisions were also declarations of war on HA. But that's going way out of topic now.

So u say there was no third+1 given to HA/Amal/Lahoud in 2005? Amnesia hits real hard it seems. It doesn't matter if Rizk and Metri switched sides, bottom line the loyalists agreed to give the 1/3 +1 to HA and Amal and Lahoud but did not accept to have FPM in the gov.
As for the rest of ur blabbering, I'll pass. Once you decide to engage in a serious fruitful discussion, we'll continue.

Rizk and Mitri switched sides? on which subject? any idea?
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The blocking third claim means that FPM trusts SSNP as it gave it the keys of a blocking third.
every major opposition group holds this key, and by extension every major group in parliament: should ssnp decide to vote with the loyalists, then the key would ly in the hand of every minor loyalist group, possibly enabling it to wrest concessions from the loyalist heavyweights etc. so the effect of the blocking third is to restrain hariris grip upon the majority, and upon power, and base every decision onto a broader consensus, and i don't see why that should be bad at all; especially since fpm has a say in this, unlike 2005.
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