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View Poll Results: Do you endorse an FPM-SSNP electoral alliance?
I endorse an FPM-SSNP electoral alliance. 86 68.80%
I am against such an alliance and will not support it. 18 14.40%
I am against such an alliance and it will affect my perception of FPM 9 7.20%
I will not vote SSNP even if they are on FPM's list. 12 9.60%
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I have no problem in voting for an SSNPer, especially if the opponent is a Geageaist or Gemayalist.
Same here, just add haririst in that list along with gemayelist & geageaist..
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If you ask me, the next elections is not just parliamentary elections, it's about the future of Lebanon, the opposition (all of the opposition, all those who oppose what Hariri did and still doing since 1992) have a responsibility toward Lebanon and the Future of Lebanon, toward us and toward our children, not getting the majority in the next elections will be an unforgivable sin on the opposition.

So there will not be a mercy, things like "Beirutis are hurt" and i don't know what is not allowed in the next elections.

NO MERCY will be the slogan of the next elections, and the SSNP (as opposition) will be making an unforgivable sin if they did not support the opposition lists all over Lebanon no matter if they had candidates or not.
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I think it will be a global alliance across Lebanon , but there is that feeling within the SSNP that if FPM mist7iyin fiyon 3a chou hinni baddon yerkdo la ysawtoulon .

it happened in 2005 in koura where 50% boycotted , in metn they stopped showing up at 12:00 , in Baabda they abstained or voted jumblat nkeyeh
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Ghassan Achkar is not MP. Let him go discuss with his relative, Amine Gemayel.

Fouad will be allied to Aoun.

The list will be: Fouad Abou Nader, Ibrahim Kanaan, Selim Salhab, Walid Khoury, Michel Murr, Ghassan Moukheiber, Edgar Maalouf, Hagop Pakradounian.
Michel el Murr is out of the equation..... He wont ally with us anymore and if he makes an agreement with GMA, the majority of FPMers wont vote for him.....
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yes
sorry, i have just checked
and you are right
sorry for my mistake
the guy's family alone is 2500 votes
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I have no problem in voting for an SSNPer, especially if the opponent is a Geageaist or Gemayalist.
I have a problem to vote for Assaad Hardane because of the killing of Bachir Gemayel and to vote for Nader Sukkar because of the killing of Dany Chamoun

And i will neither vote for amine gemayel party candidates nor for samir geagea party candidates

sorry but i can not call amine gemayel party, the kataeb party and i can not call samir geagea party, the lebanese forces

eno haram el chouhada
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I think it will be a global alliance across Lebanon , but there is that feeling within the SSNP that if FPM mist7iyin fiyon 3a chou hinni baddon yerkdo la ysawtoulon .

it happened in 2005 in koura where 50% boycotted , in metn they stopped showing up at 12:00 , in Baabda they abstained or voted jumblat nkeyeh
I will vote for the whole opposition list without looking at the names, so SSNP as a political party (leadership) should not worry or even think about if FPMers are shy or not, in the areas that they have followers, they should work 200% to make sure all their followers participate in the elections and vote for the whole opposition list.

Now about SSNPers and FPMers being shy from each others, that's completely irrelevant here, and by the way, about the alliance, it's not about FPMers, its not about the supporters, its the decision of the leadership and if the leadership of FPM decided to ally with SSNP and any FPMer didn't vote for the SSNP on the list is actually betraying FPM. Not voting for the SSNP (in case they were on our list) means one voice went to our opponents and that one voice can switch the majority from one side to another.
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I have a problem to vote for Assaad Hardane because of the killing of Bachir Gemayel and to vote for Nader Sukkar because of the killing of Dany Chamoun
point taken, very good point indeed, but this matter is now really personal between lots of FPMer and LFer , SG made sure to that unfortunately since he got out of prison and rekindled old hatreds.
both sides will ally with satan himself now to get rid of the other..

and i can't say i'm totally innocent of this equation either .. hehe
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point taken, very good point indeed, but this matter is now really personal between lots of FPMer and LFer , SG made sure to that unfortunately since he got out of prison and rekindled old hatreds.
both sides will ally with satan himself now to get rid of the other..

and i can't say i'm totally innocent of this equation either .. hehe
that's one of the differences between the political choices of FPM versus those of the LF or SG; we dont base our strategy on how we feel towards SG, so we'll not be ready to cooperate with satan against him, cause at the end of the day, he's just one player among many others, a rather less significant player i must point out.
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that's one of the differences between the political choices of FPM versus those of the LF or SG; we dont base our strategy on how we feel towards SG, so we'll not be ready to cooperate with satan against him, cause at the end of the day, he's just one player among many others, a rather less significant player i must point out.

granted, but political choices is one thing, & personal grudge on the ground in a kill-or-be-killed political tug of war situation is something else.

i'm just being pessimistically realistic here i think.
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I wouldnt vote for an SSNP, personnally.
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