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[roch10452]

Originally Posted by Nayla H

Anyone considers HA weapons as illegal and attack them is a traitor.
Anyone asks to disarm HA is a traitor. Point final.

GMA will ask for this ONLY in case we have a well armed strong army which is not the case now.
So, GMA will never ask to disarm HA if the army doesn't have weapons to protect Lebanon from the zionists.
The Resistance had proven to everyone that they are the only one who can really protect Lebano, so stop nagging about their weapons and accept the fact that the Resistance will stay here with the weapons.

Please explain to me how did Hezbo protect lebanon?
I remember in the last war, we lost 1200 lebanese citizens, who protected those people?
we also lost all our bridges in the south
power stations
communications
most schools and houses near the border

how did Hezbo protect lebanon in this war?

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by roch10452

Please explain to me how did Hezbo protect lebanon?
I remember in the last war, we lost 1200 lebanese citizens, who protected those people?

God's party.

we also lost all our bridges in the south
power stations
communications
most schools and houses near the border

how did Hezbo protect lebanon in this war?

With God's help, natural. Thank God they did it, otherwise the people of the south would've been displaced.

كذا صار الدم العربي سكيناً وذباحا..

وصار الشعر بعد الصمت في الساحات صداحا‏

كذا صرنا ولن نبقى إذا كنا تناسينا جهاد الحق والإيمان.‏

وأن الشعب رغم الذل..رغم القهر..‏

يرفع راية العصيان..يصمم أخذها غصباً..ويأخذها‏

كذا فعلت رجال الله يوم الفتح في لبنان..‏

جنوبي الهوى قلبي-وما أحلاه أن يغدو هوى قلبي جنوبيا
- هنا حطت رحاؤلنا..تعال اخلع..وقد أرجوك أن تركع تعال اخلع نعالك..
إننا نمشي على أرضٍ مقدسة فلو أسطيع أعبرها على رمشي..‏

هنا سُلبوا, هنا صلبوا, هنا رقدوا, هنا سجدوا, هنا قُصفوا, هنا وقفوا,هنا رغبوا,
هنا ركبوا براق الله وانسكبوا بشلال من الشهداء‏

قبل رحيلهم كتبوا كتابات بلا عنوان.. ستقرأ في مدارسنا..رجال الله يوم الفتح في لبنان‏

لأن الشعب كان هناك يرفض فكرة الإذعان..‏

لأن جراحهم نزفت ونخوة عزهم عزفت نشيد المجد للأوطان..‏

لأن الأرض مطلبهم ونور الحق مركبهم, تجرد من بقيتهم رجال آمنوا..قرؤوا (إذا جاء)(1)‏

رجال عاهدوا صدقوا..وقد شاؤوا كما شاء صفاء النفس وحدهم..فجلّ حديثهم صمت, وبعض الصمت إيماء َ..‏

إذا هبوا كإعصار فلا يبقي ولايذرُ..‏

لهم في الموت فلسفة, فلا يخشونه أبدا, بذا أُمروا..لأجل بلادهم رفعوا لواء النصر..فانتصروا..‏

جنوبيون يعرفهم تراب الأرض, ملح الأرض, عطر منابع الريحان..‏

جنوبيون يعرفهم سناء البرق, غيث المزَن, سحر شقائق النعمان..‏

نجوم الليل تعرفهم وشمس الصبح تعرفهم..وبوح الماء للغدران‏

وقد عرفوا طيور الحب, فك السيف, شعر الفرس والإغريق والفينيق والرومان..‏

لهم علم ومعرفة بمن سادوا..ومن بادوا..وموسيقا بحور الشعر وكيف يحرر الإنسان..‏

جنوبيون كان الله يعرفهم, وكان الله قائدهم وآمرهم, لذا كانوا بكل تواضعٍ..كانوا رجال الله يوم الفتح في لبنان

الشاعر عمر فرا

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Everyone here in this forum knows very well that I am against Hezbollah's political agenda or weapons. When discussing here in the forum, one encounters many ill-informed or downright propagandist explanations and justifications given by HA supporters and FPMers in defense of Hezbollah arbitrarily and without proper foundation. In order to set the record straight I wanted to post the Hezbollah charter, so it can be the foundation for discussing and understanding Hezbollah. This charter was never modified by Hezbollah and still stands today as its founding document, charter and program.

Here is the Hezbollah Charter:

The English version of the charter appeared in "The Jerusalem Quarterly, number Forty-Eight, Fall 1988", an israeli newspaper. It was a translation of the program published in Assafir in 1985.

Note: "It should be emphasised that none of Hizballah's web sites have published the full text of the organization's program, and they prefer to publish the 1996 electoraral program which was intended for
the specific propoganda campaign before the Lebanese Parliamentary elections in 1996."
source: The program of the Hezbollah (Hizbollah) 1985
original source: http://www.ict.org.il/Articles/Hiz_letter.htm :It's no longer available.

PS: Notice the poor English grammar in the note. I don't know if it means anything, but it's worth noticing.

Now, HA still hasn't adopted this program to this date and to my knowledge none of its partisans acknowledge it as their charter.

[roch10452]

Please repeat that to me...
Better dead then displaced?
what about the 500000 displaced shiite in beirut and the mountain,
Isreal should have bombed the mountain roads so they dont arrive to safety?

God doesnt have a party
Did you mean HN's party?

[mount_amel]

Originally Posted by roch10452

Please repeat that to me...
Better dead then displaced?
what about the 500000 displaced shiite in beirut and the mountain,
Isreal should have bombed the mountain roads so they dont arrive to safety?

God doesnt have a party
Did you mean HN's party?

Ya 3ayb el shoom .. wishing your fellow lebanese death on the hands of the israelis .. ! How much low can you get ?

[roch10452]

are you always this bad in reading english?
how did you misread me into seeing that I wish the death of lebanese?!?!?!?!

[sailormoon]

Originally Posted by Nayla H

So, GMA will never ask to disarm HA if the army doesn't have weapons to protect Lebanon from the zionists.

In other therms , never. It s obvious that HA will always judge the army not strong enough , and thus a never ending circle. Another thing which shows us that the MOU doesn t bring any clear solution or response to our current issues. It s just a pact where GMA accepts his dhimmitude and "protection".

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

The English version of the charter appeared in "The Jerusalem Quarterly, number Forty-Eight, Fall 1988", an israeli newspaper. It was a translation of the program published in Assafir in 1985.

Note: "It should be emphasised that none of Hizballah's web sites have published the full text of the organization's program, and they prefer to publish the 1996 electoraral program which was intended for
the specific propoganda campaign before the Lebanese Parliamentary elections in 1996."
source: The program of the Hezbollah (Hizbollah) 1985
original source: http://www.ict.org.il/Articles/Hiz_letter.htm :It's no longer available.

PS: Notice the poor English grammar in the note. I don't know if it means anything, but it's worth noticing.

Now, HA still hasn't adopted this program to this date and to my knowledge none of its partisans acknowledge it as their charter.

Vego, HA published its charter in Assafir in 1985 in the time period of the inception of HA. This charter was never modified by Hezbollah and still stands today as its founding document, charter and program. If HA wants to reject this charter and issue a new one, good for them, but until then it remains one of the most valid and direct sources for HA's fundamental views and plans as a party and movement. If HA wants to distance itself from this charter as you are suggesting, then it must comment on it, reject some of it and then move forward with a new charter.

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Vego, HA published its charter in Assafir in 1985 in the time period of the inception of HA. This charter was never modified by Hezbollah and still stands today as its founding document, charter and program. If HA wants to reject this charter and issue a new one, good for them, but until then it remains one of the most valid and direct sources for HA's fundamental views and plans as a party and movement. If HA wants to distance itself from this charter as you are suggesting, then it must comment on it, reject some of it and then move forward with a new charter.

Joesph, HA still did not associate itself with this program until this day, and not one site related to HA has published it. U still have to prove that HA adopted this charter which it hasn't till today.
Did u bother to ask HA supporters or present officials about their stances regarding this program before confirming without a doubt it's HA's current charter? Has any HA official used it as reference about HA's ideology and views?

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

Joesph, HA still did not associate itself with this program until this day, and not one site related to HA has published. U still have to prove that HA adopted this charter which it hasn't till today.
Did u bother to ask HA supporters or present officials about their stances regarding this program before confirming without a doubt it's HA's current charter? I think not.

Vego, it is HA that published this charter in Assafir in the time period of its inception in 1985. What are you talking about? Again, If HA wants to distance itself from this charter as you are suggesting, then it must comment on it, reject some of it and then move forward with a new charter.