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[roch10452]

Originally Posted by 4U2IMI8

1-Wallah mni7a minak haide ye3ni, you know what's good for us more than we do. We're very thankful, but we know what we're doing.
2- The Christians were never united, not even today. We are.
3- We have all the power we need, we're not trying to split people, we extend our hand to everyone yet the ignorants refuse it.
4- When that happens I suggest you move so you don't suffer.

1- who are you? and what are you doing?

2- i was referring to the Christian front that became later the LF under bashir gemayel, the lebanese christians were united behind him.

3- again who are you? i hope you are not trying to split anyone. what i meant to say is that the behavior of Hezbo will lead into splitting lebanon! if you mean Hezbo is extending his hands, then please make that hand weapon free.

4- have you ever traveled out of lebanon? we used to be considered the best tourists before 1975, then things started to get messy when palestinians started their terrorist activities.
now with bin laden, I cant travel to most countries without being searched twice coz i am arabic
with hezbo labeled terrorist it will be worst coz i am lebanese!

[YOSS]

chafic so long as you do not zoom out to the other dimension of the meaning of what is being called "resistance", the conversation would be mute.

While Israel pulled out mostly, and you could say "resistance to what"... the regional problem is still far from being solved.

Isn't it possible the existence of those weapons might leverage the eventual outcome of regional issues that affect Lebanon i.e: Palestinian Naturalization, deter southern attacks & operations, etc.?

The 400K Palestinian refugees issue is a war provoking issue on its own. It's an interesting and challenging brainstorming session to try and formulate a holistic & peaceful resolution to it - so far, good luck.

Regional negotiators will have to compromise, each side will feel a pinch in the least, and if the existence of this armed party can improve my country's negotiator's leverage on that table; ... Then in exception, I'd break this 'one country one army' matter of principle for the time being.

This country still has a few major - post local and regional wars - hurdles to cross.

[4U2IMI8]

Originally Posted by roch10452

1- who are you? and what are you doing?

2- i was referring to the Christian front that became later the LF under bashir gemayel, the lebanese christians were united behind him.

3- again who are you? i hope you are not trying to split anyone. what i meant to say is that the behavior of Hezbo will lead into splitting lebanon! if you mean Hezbo is extending his hands, then please make that hand weapon free.

4- have you ever traveled out of lebanon? we used to be considered the best tourists before 1975, then things started to get messy when palestinians started their terrorist activities.
now with bin laden, I cant travel to most countries without being searched twice coz i am arabic
with hezbo labeled terrorist it will be worst coz i am lebanese!

I am one of those who are making you sleepless at night.
I don't need to split anyone, and I don't care to. The name is Hizb Allah not Hizbo kiddo, and we extend our hand ma badak la (blank blank), the weapons are staying.
No bas inta msafer la barra, ne7na sha3b la m3alam wala mensafer, bas mna3ref lougat min l internet, our schools and universities graduate illiterate students, and we travel between villages that have the same dialect.
We're Syrian/Iranians with Lebanese citizenships, I made that very clear in previous posts. We're also terrorists, again you can't live with us, allah w dwalibou ma3ak, we're not going anywhere.

[Jorje]

Regional negotiators will have to compromise, each side will feel a pinch in the least, and if the existence of this armed party can improve my country's negotiator's leverage on that table; ... Then in exception, I'd break this 'one country one army' matter of principle for the time being.

This armed party has lead in one way or another to the death of 1000 civilians, the destruction of half of the country and the mass movement of around a million people. So now let's put the pros and cons into perspective.

Isn't it possible the existence of those weapons might leverage the eventual outcome of regional issues that affect Lebanon i.e: Palestinian Naturalization, deter southern attacks & operations, etc.?

Could you please explain how HA is a deterring force? If anything, it was and is an invitation for Israel to attack. How could it be a deterring force when it speaks of Israel's destruction day in day out?

[punkgirlie16]

Originally Posted by Learned

The idea of working for social justice based on a socio-economic ideology that seeks to separate, and even quell the moral principles that religion offers really leaves a void that needs to be filled in the hearts and minds of people, and the leftist movements failed to fill that void.

Leftism is admirable is its intentions of extablishing social justice, but its means are detached from the reality of the human condition, because the role of the human being within such ideologies is perversed.

i know very well what you mean. to be really honest, the demise of the left was very well deserved.

its practice was separated from the real needs of human emancipation, and it produced only other forms of serfdom.

the turn towards religion since the 1970s is, in my eyes, nothing else than to take for granted that human emancipation does not exist, and whats more, that it should not exist. thereby saying yes and amen to human serfdom.

thats the way i see things. blame it on my communist upbringing.

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Jorje

This armed party has lead in one way or another to the death of 1000 civilians, the destruction of half of the country and the mass movement of around a million people. So now let's put the pros and cons into perspective.

Out of focus.

Could you please explain how HA is a deterring force? If anything, it was and is an invitation for Israel to attack. How could it be a deterring force when it speaks of Israel's destruction day in day out?

It can, and I don't get ur logic.

[jamez29]

the 2006 war and the so called a victory in my opinion was a disaster to all of us we call it victory cause Israel didn't finish the hzib and I call it huge defeat cause our country destroyed so another victory likes the 2006 and kiss all Lebanon goodbye

[Jorje]

Out of focus.

What is out of focus? You're mentioning that HA's arms and the status quo are justified on the premise that they could bring positive results for Lebanon as a whole. You completely ignored all the negative stuff that HA brought and is bringing to Lebanon, which doesn't make the status quo justified imo.

It can, and I don't get ur logic.

It can? The point is whether it is a deterring force. I believe it certainly isn't. I think that it is an invitation card for Israel.

At this stage,discussion with you is a waste of time.

The feeling is absolutely mutual, and one of the last things I'd do is to try to convince you of anything. At least we agree on something.

[Ashrafieh_101]

There's no point arguing anymore. HA will keep their weapons regardless. The solution is for everyone else to rearm or to partition the country. End of discussion, Thread closed.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by jamez29

the 2006 war and the so called a victory in my opinion was a disaster to all of us we call it victory cause Israel didn't finish the hzib and I call it huge defeat cause our country destroyed so another victory likes the 2006 and kiss all Lebanon goodbye

That's what Israelis tried to convince us of at the beginning...then...it really didn't fly...so they finally decided to stop looking and sounding ridiculous and aknowledged their defeat.

Nice try though...