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[J. Abizeid]

Originally Posted by punkgirlie16

why israel chose to go to negotiations with syria instead?

You’ll have to ask the Israelis on this forum that question.
My guess, it’s the same reason they chose to negotiate with HA for prisoners exchange not with Saniora government. They want results; that’s why they negotiate with the powerful parties that can deliver not with spineless puppets.

[mehdi soldier]

Originally Posted by SISCO

Mehdi look well at my other posts and you'll get your answers !!! it seems that you don't know how was the situation in the south before HA and who was LCP and what they did !!!

what answers?am not interested in your generalizations and imaginations.who are the LCP?and how did HA come into existence?syrian parachutters?!lol!

You can always get back to any history book and you can find who started the resistance and who faught for a real cause!! IN ADDITION YOU WILL SEE WHAT WAS THE LCP IN THE SOUTH !!

whoever started the resistance is mashkur.infact the term of "start the resistance" is wrong.the resistance is not a building.you need to go back to my post to read.resistance against occupation is an urge and a right for the victims.if the victims change name or allegiance as you are trying to portray,you are sounding as if you are telling us that those people have become "fake resistance fighters".do you mean the occupation is no more there?or the people are no more resisting that occupation regardless of what name or party they are giving their support to.

PS: For elections, i know that some parties like FM in the north during the last elections and HA since long time in the south use "FATEWA" and it seems that it can get very good results. It's really discusting to use religion in elections and in resistance

it says much about who the people of the south are and how free they are to follow fatewa.they're free!or do you want to stop them from following fatewa because of some party that resisted that is not using fatewa?ya3neh you are simply trading with the resistance you are claiming to be leading.

[Abou Sandal]

The Free World Owes Hezbollah a “Thank You” The Free World Owes Hezbollah a “Thank You” By Peter Chamberlin Bush’s secret war against Lebanon has been reversed by the people of Lebanon. Hezbollah forces were saying “No,” for the whole nation. Bush’s use of local mercenary forces to undermine the national resistance to Israeli aggression didn’t set well with either side of the Lebanese people. Lebanon was set to become the new battlefield in a regional war, to guarantee the security of Israel. Once again, we see that the Cedar Revolution lives on in the hopeful people who have risen as one, to oppose outside intervention in their blossoming democracy. The success of the Doha Accord will prove in Lebanon that Democracy and Islamic thought is compatible, if the foreign devils can be kept away from their doors. On the eve of the eighth anniversary of Hezbollah’s first liberation of the people of Lebanon from the Zionist invader, the world should finally understand that the Lebanese Resistance forces are not the “terrorists” that the American/Israeli press makes them out to be. Al-ManarTV:: May 25; Resistance and Liberation Day 24/05/2008 Once again, those whom the Zionist press has labeled as terrorists have proven to be just patriots defending their homes. Rami G. Khouri has given us a perfect summary of the new paradigm Bush has created: The Daily Star - Opinion Articles - A new Middle East, but not Condi's “This accord has been forged in the furnace of Middle Eastern demographic and political realism, in contrast to the hallucinatory absolutism that often drives US-Israeli policy in the region. The US was not fully defeated, but it was fought to a draw. Recent events put into concrete political form the most powerful force that has defined the Middle East in recent decades: the willingness of individuals, political movements and some governments to openly defy, challenge, resist and occasionally fight the United States, Israel and their Arab and other allies. Now that we have a draw in the broad ideological confrontation throughout the Middle East that pits Israeli-Americanism against Arab Islamo-nationalism, we should expect the players to reconsider their policies if they wish to make new gains. It is no big deal in Washington when nearly 500 million Arabs, Iranians and Turks ignore and defy the US. But when Israel - the only democracy in the Middle East, America's eternal ally, and the bastion of the epic modern struggle against fascism, totalitarianism, Nazism, communism and terrorism - ignores the United States, that is newsworthy. So we now have a rare moment in the Middle East: Iran, Turkey, all the Arabs, Hizbullah, Hamas and Israel all share one and only one common trait: They routinely ignore the advice, and the occasional threats, they get from Washington. Condoleezza Rice was correct in summer 2006 when she said we are witnessing the birth pangs of a new Middle East. But the new regional configuration is very different from what she had in mind and tried to bring into being with multiple wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Somalia and Lebanon, and threats against Iran and Syria. The new rules of the political game in the Middle East are now being written by the key players in the Middle East, which should be welcomed.” --------------------------------------------- Peter Chamberlin is an op-ed writer for the Herald-Dispatch newspaper in Huntington, WV. He has been actively opposing all non-defensive war most of his life. Peter's first petition (as a teenager) was a success in his local community, raising several hundred signatures protesting Nixon's scapegoating of Lt. Calley for the My Lai incident. He has been very active since 1982 writing letters to newspapers and magazines, as well as recalcitrant national leaders, speaking-out against war, nuclear war, and the impending violent collapse of the Western empire (that is now at hand). Chamberlin has had several hundred letter-to-editors printed in this time.

The Free World Owes Hezbollah a “Thank You� | Wake Up From Your Slumber

[tattwa]

who knows? I wonder what would have happened if they made a real "coup", put GMA as president .....etc....

[ecce homo]

Israel fears Hezbollah may try to 'settle score' over Mughniyeh
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent

Israel believes Hezbollah may try a terror attack against Israel in order to "settle accounts" over the assassination of second-in-command Imad Mughniyeh. Hezbollah blames Israel for Mughniyeh's death in Damascus in February.

Lebanon on Wednesday dashed Israel's hopes that Beirut would follow Damascus in beginning peace talks with Israel, saying that Israel must withdraw from what Beirut considers its occupied land.

"There are pending bilateral issues between Lebanon and Israel which are governed by international resolutions which Israel must respect ... and which cannot be the object of political negotiations," a government statement issued Wednesday said.

"Lebanon seeks to enforce these two decisions completely especially regarding an end to the occupation of the Shaba Farms...."

The statement said that once Israel withdrew from Lebanese land, Lebanon got back its prisoners and received maps of land mines and cluster bombs which were used in previous wars, "a truce agreement between Lebanon and Israel will be in effect." Lebanon's response came after Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the cabinet earlier this week that he hoped Lebanon would consider talks with Israel. Israel and Syria have been holding indirect talks under Turkish auspices. Additional meetings are scheduled to be held in Turkey later this week.

The caretaker Lebanese government said Israel must withdraw from the disputed Shaba Farms area, in accordance with UN Security Council resolutions. The site, a small area in the foothills of the Golan Heights, is considered Lebanese by Beirut, but the United Nations says it is Syrian land. Israel took over the area in the 1967 Six-Day War, a move not recognized by the international community.

Concerns of a Hezbollah action are increasing in part because of estimates that the organization will try to counter critics in Lebanon for its use of arms against its political opponents by attacking Israel.

One scenario is a hit against an Israeli public figure, particularly someone with a defense background. The military is particularly concerned with attacks on officers, and security for high-ranking officers has been increased recently. It is considered likely Hezbollah would consider such an assassination an appropriate response to the assassination of Mughniyeh.

Last month, Hezbollah gained an impressive political victory in Lebanon, crowning a sympathizer (former chief of staff Michel Suleiman) president and bolstering its presence in the cabinet to acquire a veto on matters of state. However, senior military intelligence officials believe the way Hezbollah garnered that victory could lead to its violent attack against Israel. This opinion has been expressed in a number of recent discussions, including an intelligence review presented to Barak.

In previous years, particularly ahead of the Second Lebanon War in the summer of 2006, Hezbollah Secretary General Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah vowed not to use "the weapon of resistance" for internal Lebanese political purposes, and that armed struggle would only be for "liberation" against Israel. That was one of Nasrallah's arguments against the disarming of Hezbollah, as opposed to other ethnic militias operating in Lebanon.

But last month Hezbollah used arms against its opponents within Lebanon, mostly from the anti-Syrian camp. Deaths in clashes lead to sharp criticism of Nasrallah and could motivate him to approve action against Israel on the northern border.

In addition, although the incident is no longer making headlines in Israel the intelligence community believes Hezbollah is still seeking revenge for the killing of Mughniyeh, which it attributes to Israel's Mossad. The military alert declared at the time is still in effect and various security measures are being implemented on the northern border and at potential Israeli targets worldwide.

Alerts have even been heightened recently, despite progress in indirect talks between Israel and Hezbollah regarding a prisoner exchange as well as recent reciprocal gestures which included the return to Lebanon of Nissim Nassar, an Israeli citizen who recently completed a prison sentence in Israel after being convicted of spying for Hezbollah.

Israel fears Hezbollah may try to 'settle score' over Mughniyeh - Haaretz - Israel News

[punkgirlie16]

Originally Posted by J. Abizeid

You’ll have to ask the Israelis on this forum that question.
My guess, it’s the same reason they chose to negotiate with HA for prisoners exchange not with Saniora government. They want results; that’s why they negotiate with the powerful parties that can deliver not with spineless puppets.

yeah but how does that serve lebanon? would it be the first time that israel and syria coordinate at lebanons expense?

if what israel wants is a border as quiet as the golan, wouldn't it be natural for israel to help syria gain leverage over southern lebanon? and thereby reversing what the lebanese achieved in 2005.

[J. Abizeid]

Originally Posted by punkgirlie16

yeah but how does that serve lebanon? would it be the first time that israel and syria coordinate at lebanons expense?

if what israel wants is a border as quiet as the golan, wouldn't it be natural for israel to help syria gain leverage over southern lebanon? and thereby reversing what the lebanese achieved in 2005.

You are absolutely correct!
I’ve said it before on this forum: If you are hoping for the US to become friends with Syria in order to resolve your problems, be careful what you are wishing for. Last time they were friends, Syria occupied Lebanon for 29 years.
The only way to prevent history from repeating itself is by learning from it how to identify shepherds from butchers; they all seem to love you, especially cowboy butchers, they love your tender meat…..
As far as Syria’s relationship with HA, we all know it’s real. But that does not mean HA is a puppet of Syria or Iran just like Israel is not a puppet of the U.S. either.
I took time listening to HA making their case directly from their sources, not from LBC or FOX news. I learned to rise above all religious sensitivities and finally understood that HA’s goal is not religious. Their goal is survival and that’s why they will always win. Lebanon is their land. They have no other place to go to and they earned it more than most of us by dying in it and for it.
In contrast, the rest of us are confused about our identity. We can’t decide if we are Arabs or Europeans. But every foreigner I met tells me I’m an Arab and insists I must be Muslim as too….
What I also learned HA has a rare quality called loyalty (the Americans can learn from it…). Don’t expect them to turn against their old friends just because the winds have changed BUT, don’t expect them to eliminate themselves either in order to please Syria. That defeats the purpose of the whole concept of survival.
However, if Syria came under a tremendous pressure to weaken HA, the rest of Lebanon should be smart enough to embrace its resistance and unite. That’s the only way to boost our immune system with minimum outside antibiotics dependence.


For the second part of you question, let me say this:
If peace is all Israel wants from Lebanon, they can have it immediately. (You know HA is not trying to make Israel a Shiite state….); Lebanon’s demands through its resistance are legitimate and don’t cost Israel much: Exchange of all prisoners, withdrawal from the rest of Lebanon’s occupied land, help locating the land mines and respecting Lebanon’s airspace.
Unfortunately, Israel wants a package deal that includes the Settlement of the Palestinians ahead of achieving peace north of its borders.

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

You don't seem to read what you write to "picture" how it would make someone like me "think" and "react". You're lucky I'm not next to you.

Those who forced Isarel out are HA whether you like it or not. All the rest accomplished **** inspite of trying hard.

Gooday

Dalzi, calm yourself and respond with Positivie Mental Attitude. Sisco, presents real and accurate information. After all, life in Lebanon with its issues were existent prior 1982's formal inception of HA.

[chafic]

Why in disguise? It's very obvious how much of a blessing it is.

[Motorcity]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

نساء بنت جبيل يرحبون بالجيش الأسرائيلي أثناء اجتياحه لبيروت سنة 1982

As you can see in the pic, these were asghaf al shoughafa'a! Everybody is a traitor according to you

If it wasn't for you quoting one of your masters from a blue forum somewhere, i wouldn't care much!(note that they invaded wide areas of Lebanon, not only Beirut, though that was long before Saad declared it a red line).
It is no secret that Southerners of all backgrounds were fed up with PLO practices, but between throwing boiled oil & flowers, let me tell you a detail that you have missed: Bintjbiel itself was a ghost town during that invasion!