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[basem]

What I mean by carying weapon for each partys (or each religion ) is not distributing weapon in a randomly way,so murderes will get weapon as well as the good guy.
So my idea is to create a well organized stand-by forces for each party's, and not like the militia way we saw in beirut 3 weeks ago. And it will be the most feasable solution to convince all the lebanese leaders to forget about HA weapons. Even if I know it will not be an ideal country to live in, but ( egualite pour tous ).

[Mr Aoun]

Originally Posted by basem

let it be legal for all the party's to carry weapon, then it will be no problem any more with HA weapon. So from now every one will carry gun's to get protected from the other lebanese or palestinian militia

There is absolutely no reason why Future/PSP/LF should be armed.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Mr Aoun

Unacceptable indeed. The whole reason why HA was created was because the LAF COULDN'T PROVIDE THE SECURITY THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH LEBANON NEEDED. And if HA handed in its arms to the LAF, well guess what, LAF STILL WON'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SECURITY MY PEOPLE NEED. And you want to disarm us, make us naked and vulnerable. [] Sorry, my people aren't going through the hell they went through from 1975 - 2006. You can keep dreaming all you like. You can squabble on all you like about how HA should be disarmed till you're on your death bed. But it's not going to happen, not until the LAF has the means to protect EVERY citizen of the state.

You know what bothers me? []people who have no idea, never went throught anything, don't have a clue, come up to talk about defence strategies addressing those who "fought" israel "alone" for decades. Makes you want to ask the world; where were the Lebanese when we were stranded on borders for over 12 hours till occupiers decided to let us into our own homes"? Where were they when HA was fighting for the right to return to land, homes, and family? Answer: Clubbing :). []

[SISCO]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

You know what bothers me? [] who have no idea, never went throught anything, don't have a clue, come up to talk about defence strategies addressing those who "fought" israel "alone" for decades. Makes you want to ask the world; where were the Lebanese when we were stranded on borders for over 12 hours till occupiers decided to let us into our own homes"? Where were they when HA was fighting for the right to return to land, homes, and family? Answer: Clubbing :).[]

You know what bothers me ??? The people who praise HA as the only resistant for israeli occupation!!

You know Dalzi that the lebanese resistance started with other parties like the LCP !! these parties fought for a cause and they're motivation was not due to religion !!!!!!

The Syrian illiminated every resistance outside HA in order to give all the role to HA.

It's good not to forget these people who didn't need religious believes to fight !!!

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by SISCO

You know what bothers me ??? The people who praise HA as the only resistant for israeli occupation!!

You know Dalzi that the lebanese resistance started with other parties like the LCP !! these parties fought for a cause and they're motivation was not due to religion !!!!!!

The Syrian illiminated every resistance outside HA in order to give all the role to HA.

It's good not to forget these people who didn't need religious believes to fight !!!

I'm not discrediting any party or movement, I'm however asking those who had nothing to do with anything that went on there to go play with some toys instead of trying hard to be smart. Many not only have no idea whatsoever, they don't even know what the south looks like. Funny. Calling yourself "shuyu3e" doesn't mean you held a weapon and fought Israel out. Yeah, I'm a LFer.

Many tried, but no one achieved anything. They couldn't even "scratch" Israel. The only type of resistance that would work with Israel is HA type. The others tried their best, but you can't stop treason when you're not a regulated party. How many a traitor did play dirty and cause the death of those who thought he/she was a fellow fighter? Start counting sheep.

With HA, the rules are as strict as hell. You gotta have what it takes or you can't be in. That's why they succeeded.

So yes, HA did it. And those little kids who were playing with toys are better off taking those toys out of the box again isntead of preaching us what we ought to do. It's getting ridiculous.

[SISCO]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

I'm not discrediting any party or movement, I'm however asking those who had nothing to do with anything that went on there to go play with some toys instead of trying hard to be smart. Many not only have no idea whatsoever, they don't even know what the south looks like. Funny. Calling yourself "shuyu3e" doesn't mean you held a weapon and fought Israel out. Yeah, I'm a LFer.

Many tried, but no one achieved anything. They couldn't even "scratch" Israel. The only type of resistance that would work with Israel is HA type. The others tried their best, but you can't stop treason when you're not a regulated party. How many a traitor did play dirty and cause the death of those who thought he/she was a fellow fighter? Start counting sheep.

With HA, the rules are as strict as hell. You gotta have what it takes or you can't be in. That's why they succeeded.

So yes, HA did it. And those little kids who were playing with toys are better off taking those toys out of the box again isntead of preaching us what we ought to do. It's getting ridiculous.

I 'll leave you with your anger !!! We will discuss this matter once you clam down !!!
I am not a war tactics expert, but i think that HA is the resistance that was chose by the iranian and the syrians !!!!! I think that lebanese people didn't have the choice for their resistance !!!!

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by SISCO

I 'll leave you with your anger !!! We will discuss this matter once you clam down !!!
I am not a war tactics expert, but i think that HA is the resistance that was chose by the iranian and the syrians !!!!! I think that lebanese people didn't have the choice for their resistance !!!!

The Lebanese resistance was chosen by the long-suffered people of the Janoub. They were defenseless by any authority throughout the history of Lebanon. They were considered 2nd-class citizen. And going back to the main arguement if HA didn't do what they had to do on May 7th, how bigger of a mess Lebanon would been in? Do you agree that what HA did brought stability to and brought the Doha Accord? Just imagine how much more harrassament Zouran FM have done to the people of Beriut.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by SISCO

I 'll leave you with your anger !!! We will discuss this matter once you clam down !!!

What makes you say I'm angry? :D I'm stating things, no anger. That's just a resistance tone :D.

I am not a war tactics expert, but i think that HA is the resistance that was chose by the iranian and the syrians !!!!! I think that lebanese people didn't have the choice for their resistance !!!!

What you think is just what you think. A resistance is men and women, not a car you manufacture. I resist because I feel the need to resist. The Lebanese were given many chances to fight and many did before HA, but they all failed "miserably". Who was going to force Israel out? Amal? Or the shuyu3e? Both are not that keen on giving up their lives. The price is blood. That's too expensive for anyone to pay. We're not palying a computer game with Israel. You're fighting the strongest army in the Middle East, aided by the strongest army in the world. This needs unshakable strenght, determination, power, will, and of course "faith".

[J. Abizeid]

Originally Posted by Mr Aoun

There is absolutely no reason why Future/PSP/LF should be armed.

The only reason they need arms is for snipers to shoot and kill innocent Lebanese demonstrating against government fraud and lack of food water and electricity.
Let alone the criminals behind political assassinations.
They have been programmed to consider HA as their one and only enemy. They know they can’t win against HA either. All they can do is create security disturbances for political gains just like we’ve been seeing for the last few days.

[SISCO]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

What makes you say I'm angry? :D I'm stating things, no anger. That's just a resistance tone :D.

What you think is just what you think. A resistance is men and women, not a car you manufacture. I resist because I feel the need to resist. The Lebanese were given many chances to fight and many did before HA, but they all failed "miserably". Who was going to force Israel out? Amal? Or the shuyu3e? Both are not that keen on giving up their lives. The price is blood. That's too expensive for anyone to pay. We're not palying a computer game with Israel. You're fighting the strongest army in the Middle East, aided by the strongest army in the world. This needs unshakable strenght, determination, power, will, and of course "faith".

Since you don´t want to admit that the first resistance was not HA and that the first Lebanese resistance were a real and true one, i´ll talk about things that i know and that you can verify easily.

The first lebanese resistance against Israel was with LCP under the name EL Gebha il cha3biyé. This resistance has forced israel to leave beirut. This resistance followed israel till the south were isarel made il charit il houdoudé.

This resistance didn´t fear blood (if that what they told you) !!! At least this resistance was a real one. I mean by that the type of operations that they were doing (go and check the archive)

In 1985, when LCP refuses to inform Syria about his operations, Syrian with some lebanese parties that i don´t want to mention, started to hit this resistance until they forced it to stop !!! They used to kill the lebanese resistance soldier in their way back from an operation against israel.

HA is an imposed resistance and his operations are mostly for political targets. Syria helped HA and therefore he was paying with some operations to help it in their negociations with israel.

Please don´t tell me that HA is the only resistance, they are a slave resistance. LCP and all the others (SNNP, etc.) was a real one.

People who made operations like the one executed by SOUHA BCHARA are resistance.

When the people of the south were fighting along with the communist (if i were in lebanon, i would post for you some videos and news paper) HA didn´t exists yet.

Stop praising HA which will never be a real lebanese resistance, but an instrument in the syrian and the iranian hands.

I repeat there were a real lebanese resistance before Which was hitten by the syrian with the help of some lebanese organisations like HA and to name i can permit to say is your hero Imad Moughniye who help in the assasination of the LCP people.