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View Poll Results: Are Hezbollah (and its weapons) protecting you from:
Socio-Economic injustice 19 7.36%
Israeli aggression 113 43.80%
Palestinian settlement 79 30.62%
All of the above 62 24.03%
None of the above 73 28.29%
Other 14 5.43%
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So the point of the weapons is also for regime change, non-centralized governance, equal distribution of resources, and balanced development??!!

I want a banana milkshake, with extra cream. I'll need a few B7s and a few RPGs, would you mind? No disarmament to an expensive Star bucks.
Its funny how the terrorists say they won't use their weapons against other Lebanese, but then they say they want to use their weapons for regime change and all that cr*p.
Yes indeed

BTW I only stated the clauses of the TAEF agreement, you know, the same agreement leh sarlkon nekhrina fi 3 years now, "Inkilab 3ala el taef, inkilab 3ala el dostor".

You can refer back to Taef, I didn't add/invent anything.
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See, because there's no honor in massacring civilians, occupying lands and displacing the natives.
Firstly, killing enemy bent on your destruction is a must.
Secondly, be it as it may here is a little perspective on what is truly great and honorable and earns worldwide respect:

Israel wins 'developed' status by FTSE - Israel Money, Ynetnews

BTW, did I mention that Israel achieved this despite your efforts to the contrary?
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I know you never doubted that but you also did not answer the question.

See, Israelis never talk about their honor because they know their own worth.

You on the other hand cannot shut up about it. People who do not know you well might even start thinking you are not so sure and desperately trying to convince yourself. I am sure those people are totally wrong.
We live by things you gave up a long time ago. Honour is very important to us, we fight for it, and die for it.

That is why you can not beat people like this, they fight for principle, you fight for $$$. A person fighting for $$ will run away, just like the Israeli's did in July and just like the will runaway next time. On the other hand a man fighting for honour will fight to the death, and win every time.

I know you do not understand this stuff, I do not expect you to.
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We live by things you gave up a long time ago. Honour is very important to us, we fight for it, and die for it.

That is why you can not beat people like this, they fight for principle, you fight for $$$. A person fighting for $$ will run away, just like the Israeli's did in July and just like the will runaway next time. On the other hand a man fighting for honour will fight to the death, and win every time.

I know you do not understand this stuff, I do not expect you to.
You are cheating.

Whether I will understand you or not is yet to be seen. Try explaining it first.
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HEZBOLLAH; a blessing in disguise for EVERY Lebanese who can see! (Part two)

Now that Lebanon has a new President and about to have a new Government with all parties represented in it, what will happen if Hezbollah gave up their arms to the unknown?
In my opinion, that’s pulling the rug from under us after we thought we’ve got it all made.
It still astonishes me when the Lebanese complain about a state within a sate and all they are programmed to see is Hezbollah the Lebanese resistance, instead of the Palestinian State within Lebanon, which caused the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 in the first place and created the Hezbollah phenomenon as a result.
Is the Lebanese army capable of filling in the gap if Hezbollah disappears from the South overnight? The answer is a big NO!
In that case, who will take control of the South? The answer is: The Palestinian army under the Israeli umbrella.
Do the Israelis have a problem with the Palestinians taking over the South? The answer is: Not only they don’t have a problem with that; they will be supporting them with arms and international media cover-up so long they promise not to mention the right of return to Palestine ever again. That’s part of the road map and the international agenda that is set on the backburner for now thanks to the resistance victory. Unfortunately, that victory will never be secured so long the Palestinian issue remains a hibernating monster.
Luckily, the opposition/resistance leadership is fully aware of such facts and that’s a blessing for all Lebanese.
To those who don’t want to give up trying, calling the Hezbollah arms issue a matter of principle; allow me to use Sanoira’s cute words: rou7ou khaytou bighayr hal msalleh,
The whole international agenda for Lebanon has been revised because of HA victories thanks to their arms.
Jumblatt became a soft-spoken fellow because of HA arms.
Hariri became an innocent sheep because of HA arms.
Geagea became semi civilized because of HA arms.
Amine Gemayel became semi presidential because of HA arms.
Saniora’s eye braw finally moved because of HA arms.
Patriarch Sfeir finally understood that politics is not his job because of HA arms.
Lebanon’s Prince is not a war criminal today because of HA arms.
Lebanon has a new President with a voice because of HA arms.
The Christians have not been shipped to Cyprus because of HA arms.
The Christians (all Christians including the Armenians) will have fair representation in the government from now on because of HA arms.
The Shiites in the South have not been shipped to Iraq because of HA arms.
Lebanon is not in a state of civil war killing Sunnis, Shiites and Christians alike just like in Iraq, because of HA arms.
The Bush administration declared what went on in Lebanon as a political move because of HA arms.
The Israelis are finally making prisoner exchange deals (which are good for the Israelis as well) with HA that Saniora could never make because of HA arms.
And finally, Geagea, Jumblatt, Gemayel, and Hariri are not killing each other THANK’S to GMA, SHN and Hezbollah arms.
Just like during WW2, when the issue was not about supporting the communists as a communist regime but as a resistance against the Nazis; in Lebanon, the issue is not about supporting Hezbollah as an Islamism regime but as a national resistance: It’s a choice between living under a foreign regime or a Lebanese national one.
Unfortunately, some leaders have a price for everything!
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HEZBOLLAH; a blessing in disguise for EVERY Lebanese who can see! (Part two)

Now that Lebanon has a new President and about to have a new Government with all parties represented in it, what will happen if Hezbollah gave up their arms to the unknown?
In my opinion, that’s pulling the rug from under us after we thought we’ve got it all made.
It still astonishes me when the Lebanese complain about a state within a sate and all they are programmed to see is Hezbollah the Lebanese resistance, instead of the Palestinian State within Lebanon, which caused the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 in the first place and created the Hezbollah phenomenon as a result.
Is the Lebanese army capable of filling in the gap if Hezbollah disappears from the South overnight? The answer is a big NO!
In that case, who will take control of the South? The answer is: The Palestinian army under the Israeli umbrella.
Do the Israelis have a problem with the Palestinians taking over the South? The answer is: Not only they don’t have a problem with that; they will be supporting them with arms and international media cover-up so long they promise not to mention the right of return to Palestine ever again. That’s part of the road map and the international agenda that is set on the backburner for now thanks to the resistance victory. Unfortunately, that victory will never be secured so long the Palestinian issue remains a hibernating monster.
Luckily, the opposition/resistance leadership is fully aware of such facts and that’s a blessing for all Lebanese.
To those who don’t want to give up trying, calling the Hezbollah arms issue a matter of principle; allow me to use Sanoira’s cute words: rou7ou khaytou bighayr hal msalleh,
The whole international agenda for Lebanon has been revised because of HA victories thanks to their arms.
Jumblatt became a soft-spoken fellow because of HA arms.
Hariri became an innocent sheep because of HA arms.
Geagea became semi civilized because of HA arms.
Amine Gemayel became semi presidential because of HA arms.
Saniora’s eye braw finally moved because of HA arms.
Patriarch Sfeir finally understood that politics is not his job because of HA arms.
Lebanon’s Prince is not a war criminal today because of HA arms.
Lebanon has a new President with a voice because of HA arms.
The Christians have not been shipped to Cyprus because of HA arms.
The Christians (all Christians including the Armenians) will have fair representation in the government from now on because of HA arms.
The Shiites in the South have not been shipped to Iraq because of HA arms.
Lebanon is not in a state of civil war killing Sunnis, Shiites and Christians alike just like in Iraq, because of HA arms.
The Bush administration declared what went on in Lebanon as a political move because of HA arms.
The Israelis are finally making prisoner exchange deals (which are good for the Israelis as well) with HA that Saniora could never make because of HA arms.
And finally, Geagea, Jumblatt, Gemayel, and Hariri are not killing each other THANK’S to GMA, SHN and Hezbollah arms.
Just like during WW2, when the issue was not about supporting the communists as a communist regime but as a resistance against the Nazis; in Lebanon, the issue is not about supporting Hezbollah as an Islamism regime but as a national resistance: It’s a choice between living under a foreign regime or a Lebanese national one.
Unfortunately, some leaders have a price for everything!
You forgot to mention the reason why i have food on my table is because of HA arms.
As long as we continue to have people like you we will never see peace in Lebanon.
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You forgot to mention the reason why i have food on my table is because of HA arms.
As long as we continue to have people like you we will never see peace in Lebanon.
But you will still have Lebanon with dignity and respect!
Yet, I don’t see peace in Iraq but I see it in Lebanon today. I wonder why?
Some love to crawl and that I can’t help you with.
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You forgot to mention the reason why i have food on my table is because of HA arms.
As long as we continue to have people like you we will never see peace in Lebanon.
You forgot to mention the reason why my village in jnoub isn't occupied by monsters, why my country isn't a Saudi satellite state, why the head of the country doesn't get 90% of the vote like in Egypt, why my people have gained an honor and a reputation others can only dream of and makes David vs Goliath seem miniaturized.

As long as there's parasites standing on my border threatening my people and my freedom, there's absolutely **** all you can do. As long as you don't recognize our legitimate concerns, we won't give a diddly squat what you think. State within a state?!?!? HELL YES. You asked for it, you fermented the ground for it, you sowed the seeds for it, and now you're eating it.
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HA's arms were a blessing in the year 2000 but not anymore. They have been used internally and still are being used internally. They should disarm and be under the LAF command. It is not a blessing anymore. It has nothing to do with christians, etc. Whoever thinks that HA did what it did because of fair representation for the christians is kidding himself. What will they say when HA have conquered the sunni-druze areas and then they point their guns at the other areas? This is wrong and the lebanese state should not stand idle.
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HA's arms were a blessing in the year 2000 but not anymore. They have been used internally and still are being used internally. They should disarm and be under the LAF command. It is not a blessing anymore. It has nothing to do with christians, etc. Whoever thinks that HA did what it did because of fair representation for the christians is kidding himself. What will they say when HA have conquered the sunni-druze areas and then they point their guns at the other areas? This is wrong and the lebanese state should not stand idle.
Simple question...requiring a simple answer of a yes or no:
Do you think that Palestinian arms should handed over first?
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