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[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by lebanon_first

Where did you see this happening in Lebanon?
Even the Lahed militias members (who were the masters in torturing and humiliating the southerners) were not tortured and were handled to the army and most of them got out 1 or 2 months later.
Can you enlighten us? or is it that obvious for you that Lebanon is the equivalent of Iran? or Dahye is an Iranian province?

Recent events be to differ

[lebanon_first]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Recent events be to differ

Can you be more clear and direct to the point? (events, proofs)
Thanks

[joseph_lubnan]

HA today controls the country by force with its weapons. Nothing will happen unless they agree with it. They won the day with their recent internal war in Lebanon, and used their weapons to secure and enforce a political victory, and no one has a shred of doubt that they will use them again. HA has controlled what happens in Lebanon for a long time, and now they have consolidated that control by the power of the gun. Welcome to the era of HA's now unveiled defacto military rule of the country. (All of the mention of organizing weapons and that BS in the Doha results will never see the light of day.)

The only thing that GMA and FPM accomplished in recent years is to protect HA weapons in striking contrast with the clear interests of the nation. It helped HA's opposition prepare the political and internal groundwork and propaganda that eventually lead to the use of its weapons internally for political gains, and thereafter provided defacto cover for that shameless action. FPM has helped indefinitely delay the disarmament issue, the single most important issue standing between Lebanon and a real future.

[Abou Sandal]

بتقلو تيس...بقلك حلبو

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

HA today controls the country by force with its weapons. Nothing will happen unless they agree with it. They won the day with their recent internal war in Lebanon, and used their weapons to secure and enforce a political victory, and no one has a shred of doubt that they will use them again. HA has controlled what happens in Lebanon for a long time, and now they have consolidated that control by the power of the gun. Welcome to the era of HA's now unveiled defacto military rule of the country. (All of the mention of organizing weapons and that BS in the Doha results will never see the light of day.)

The only thing that GMA and FPM accomplished in recent years is to protect HA weapons in striking contrast with the clear interests of the nation. It helped HA's opposition prepare the political and internal groundwork and propaganda that eventually lead to the use of its weapons internally for political gains, and thereafter provided defacto cover for that shameless action. FPM has helped indefinitely delay the disarmament issue, the single most important issue standing between Lebanon and a real future.

who are you talking to?

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

who are you talking to?

Funny!

This is a forum no? Who do you think I am talking to? Or are you trying to be cute? Elaborate please.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

who are you talking to?

He is just confusing this thread with "le mur des lamentations"

[Jorje]

HA decided to withdraw its fighters before any settlement was reached and even before the government decided to revoke its decisions. I don't think it was the key factor for the deal. It has more to do with regional and international powers reaching a deal.

FPM has helped indefinitely delay the disarmament issue

The disarmament issue is now more of an internal issue than ever after HA decided to use its weapons internally.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Funny!

This is a forum no? Who do you think I am talking to? Or are you trying to be cute? Elaborate please.

a forum is where people discuss and exchange idea, while to you it is where you come and whine about HA in every thread, without even discussing with others, you end up being boring and not cute anymore.

[joseph_lubnan]

Lebanon’s tense truce with Hezbollah

TheWeekDaily


What happened
After two weeks of bloody fighting in Beirut, Lebanon’s governing coalition and the militant Shiite group Hezbollah reached a power-sharing agreement. The deal seeks to end 18 months of political deadlock, and marks a shift in power to Hezbollah and its allies in the political opposition, giving them veto power over any cabinet decision. The government may have ceded power, but “we avoided civil war,” said coalition leader Walid Jumblatt. Lebanon’s ruling coalition is backed by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, and Hezbollah is supported by Syria and Iran. (International Herald Tribune)

What the commentators said
“Welcome to Hezbollahstan,” said Investor’s Business Daily in an editorial. The deal ended “the worst violence to grip Lebanon since its 1975-1990 civil war,” but clearly “Hezbollah won.” Not only did it get its “long-sought veto power,” it also gets to keep its guns. This all happened in “a sea of Western indifference and U.N. incompetence,” and the “U.S. must take some blame” for failing to engage.

You could look at the deal as “a necessary acceptance of political and military reality,” said the Los Angeles Times in an editorial (free registration). But it’s also “a blow to the U.S.” and a “sickening defeat for the secular, democratic movement” it has backed. And all the U.S. can do now is “ponder the meaning of yet another rout of one of its best Middle East allies” by “a terrorist group that is in some ways more frightening than Al Qaeda.”

Hezbollah “is not like Al Qaeda,” said Fareed Zakaria in Newsweek, and that’s largely why U.S. policy in Lebanon has failed. Al Qaeda is a “rootless organization” concerned with “existential terrorism,” but Hezbollah “has deep roots in Lebanon’s Shia community” that it fosters by providing social services and standing up for that “institutionally discriminated against” community. The Bush administration’s “mix of isolation, belligerence, and military pressure” will never work against that.

What’s the alternative? said Allahpundit in the blog Hot Air. “Appeasement”? Giving Hezbollah veto power was a terrible idea—now the group can veto any attempt to disarm it, which was the purpose of “the summit that led to this capitulation” in the first place. “As always with appeasement, the compromise was aimed at preserving peace but will lead inevitably to more war.”