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View Poll Results: Are Hezbollah (and its weapons) protecting you from:
Socio-Economic injustice 17 6.80%
Israeli aggression 109 43.60%
Palestinian settlement 78 31.20%
All of the above 59 23.60%
None of the above 71 28.40%
Other 13 5.20%
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Well, I would like to see this definite proof.



What else is their to address? There's no use in pointing fingers at some one without proof and I'd like to see HA's proof. We're talking about scenarios, not one is more likely than the other.
So you're saying that there's no way for one scenario to be more realistic than another scenario? Sounds pretty illogical to me.
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So you're saying that there's no way for one scenario to be more realistic than another scenario? Sounds pretty illogical to me.
Sounds pretty logical to me. There is the same amount of ground for both scenarios. The whole world, minus a few countries, have been sitting on Syria's head for over a year now. Syria needed to relieve some of the tension. Likewise, Israel has been hunting this man for some time now. A third, less possible scenario with less ground is that Hezbollah themselves killed him as an excuse to fight Israel, again.
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Sounds pretty logical to me. There is the same amount of ground for both scenarios. The whole world, minus a few countries, have been sitting on Syria's head for over a year now. Syria needed to relieve some of the tension. Likewise, Israel has been hunting this man for some time now. A third, less possible scenario with less ground is that Hezbollah themselves killed him as an excuse to fight Israel, again.
I already said why your theory doesn't hold ground against the theory of an Israeli assassination. The Syrians are not under the threat of invasion by the US and the Israelis were offering them an agreement on the Golan prior to Mughniyeh's assassination.

If you want to continue believing your own story, go ahead. I honestly don't care.
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The Syrians are not under the threat of invasion by the US and the Israelis were offering them an agreement on the Golan prior to Mughniyeh's assassination.
How many times have Israel and Syria negotiated the Golan Heights and where has it gotten the Syrians? Right, many times and no where. The Mughniyeh assassination stems far beyond Israel. America won't declare war on it. Nobody thinks it will. But countries will continue to break off ties with Syria and the assassination was simply Syria's way of trying to halt it for now.
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NO revenge if we are to avenge Mughniyeh killing then we should do the same for all our martrys.
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Since Hezbollah and the Resistance are one of the major topics of discussion and whereby Hezbollah is a national resistance and deemed as so as per the ministerial statement and the general political understanding..

What would be your opinion as a Lebanese citizen, supporting your national resistance, on the type of counterstrike that Hezbollah should do?

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1. A military operation on the Lebanese borders as in July 2006 (kill or capture israeli soldiers)
Hell no.

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2. An intel operation within or outside Israel to liquidate one of the israeli military commanders (eye for an eye), provided it minimizes civilian casualties
Oh yeah, sounds good.

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3. A direct and massive hit, either on a military or a civilian target in Israel or abroad, regardless of casulaties
Terrorists?

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4. Do nothing
Maybe for now, better.

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5. Other
Yep, the best.
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Sounds pretty logical to me. There is the same amount of ground for both scenarios. The whole world, minus a few countries, have been sitting on Syria's head for over a year now. Syria needed to relieve some of the tension. Likewise, Israel has been hunting this man for some time now. A third, less possible scenario with less ground is that Hezbollah themselves killed him as an excuse to fight Israel, again.
I do not know which scenario is most plausible but I think here is interesting detail to consider.

If you recall for all assassinations blamed on Syria blasts usually took half a block and many innocent bystanders along with those. In case of Mugnea his head was cut clean off by explosion and nobody else got hurt. Totally different signature.
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I do not know which scenario is most plausible but I think here is interesting detail to consider.

If you recall for all assassinations blamed on Syria blasts usually took half a block and many innocent bystanders along with those. In case of Mugnea his head was cut clean off by explosion and nobody else got hurt. Totally different signature.
Same signature. Experience.
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- Either wait a little more, and start preparing thoroughly by gathering as many fighters as possible from all over the umma, say between half a million- a million man, make sure they get well trained, equip them with effective machine guns, install effective anti warplane missiles strategically all over our lands, and on the dawn of some saturday launch an all out war on the occupied parts of Palestine.. and see what happens. If victorious then great, our problems will probably get solved once and for all- If defeat, not so great, but then we'll have to swallow our bitter luck and come back 50-60 years later on to try and reliberate our new as well as old occupied lands.

- Or, declare that you would like to integrate into the lebanese army under the trustfull leadership of himwhoiwon'tmentionbyname and your willingness to solve our problems with the israelis through diplomatic negotiations.
Diplomatic negotiations never worked.
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Why attack Israel for something Syria did?
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Suppose Syria did the Killing, woud you present the same options, but replace Israel with Syria in the text above?? Afterall, Moughnieh's wife believes Syria killed her husband and she fled to Iran.....no??
Elie
Every theoretical discussion needs an assumption, the assumption here is that Israel done it. As for Syria, that's another discussion.

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That's all I need to hear. It's a theory.
Can you please then stick to topic?

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