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are you accusing your allies of having decided themselves of the july war??wallaw 3ayb....

ANY important decision in HA is taken in Iran, this is their law and their system and Nasrallah said it once :"we are proud to be hezb wilayat el fakih....they asks us to be tolerant", uff thank you ali khamenei... what if he changes his mind??
Fuzi, 3eib 3lek. Our allies, being patriotic sons and daughters of Lebanon - did not ask the question of why did you kidnap the vermin scummy "israeli" soldiers. They said, ento def3o 3an el watan, and we'll help you with everything in our power. Unlike the rest of the neshe7 that watched in anticipation for the destruction of the Resistance and Lebanon's children and infrastructure. Go feed your mind some lessons on sharaf, instead of the BS propaganda that we're bored of.

Stop trying to twist your pathetically weak argument in your favour. The Lebanese Constitution backs HezbAllah's right to defend its Lebanon- and also states that we are ENEMIES to "israel". "israel" planned the war. The war was imposed on us - America and "israel" have repeatedly admitted to this. It's come from the mouth of the ja7esh - bas seb7anAllah, bi dallo fi bsha3ebna aj7ash mnel 7ameer. The enemy tells them we planned to invade Lebanon and crush HezbAllah at all costs as part of the "new middle east" - and our sha3eb yalli bala dameer still wants to use the oh HezbAllah ma stashaar 7adan lame pathetic no excuse to exist argument.

iza me2tene3 that HezbAllah = Iran, learn to live with it. Coz HezbAllah as they are are here to stay..wu iza ma 3aajbak, kroj
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are you accusing your allies of having decided themselves of the july war??wallaw 3ayb....

ANY important decision in HA is taken in Iran, this is their law and their system and Nasrallah said it once :"we are proud to be hezb wilayat el fakih....they asks us to be tolerant", uff thank you ali khamenei... what if he changes his mind??
Where did you get this "knowledge" from?

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Fuzi, 3eib 3lek. Our allies, being patriotic sons and daughters of Lebanon - did not ask the question of why did you kidnap the vermin scummy "israeli" soldiers. They said, ento def3o 3an el watan, and we'll help you with everything in our power. Unlike the rest of the neshe7 that watched in anticipation for the destruction of the Resistance and Lebanon's children and infrastructure. Go feed your mind some lessons on sharaf, instead of the BS propaganda that we're bored of.

Stop trying to twist your pathetically weak argument in your favour. The Lebanese Constitution backs HezbAllah's right to defend its Lebanon- and also states that we are ENEMIES to "israel". "israel" planned the war. The war was imposed on us - America and "israel" have repeatedly admitted to this. It's come from the mouth of the ja7esh - bas seb7anAllah, bi dallo fi bsha3ebna aj7ash mnel 7ameer. The enemy tells them we planned to invade Lebanon and crush HezbAllah at all costs as part of the "new middle east" - and our sha3eb yalli bala dameer still wants to use the oh HezbAllah ma stashaar 7adan lame pathetic no excuse to exist argument.

iza me2tene3 that HezbAllah = Iran, learn to live with it. Coz HezbAllah as they are are here to stay..wu iza ma 3aajbak, kroj
your allies helped you with all what they had?? but they didn't have anything to help you with....march14 gave you shelter, in my area bi noss din el ashrafiyeh(nota aounie place I can tell you) we opened schools and gave you shelter, as you know you probably in tarik el jdidé where 2 days earlier you were breaking cars and insulting omar they gave you shelter and food too. Then Sanioura and his team diplomacy saved the lebanese population(believe it or not I consider the shiias as lebanese) more suffering through the 7 points first then through the succes of fierce negotiations in ny for 1701 with the help of our ally jaques chirac and the talent of our minister of foreign affairs (lech ma ba3adto el salloukh dakehlkon???). So give me a break, we stood by you during the war and have always stood by you against israel(generally not the case of aounies), but of course you can't forbid us saying that you knew you were opening the gates of hell on lebanon with that kidnapping and it was DEFINITELY not for a lebanese agenda, and this attack DEFINITELY needed ali khamenei greenlight...
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your allies helped you with all what they had?? but they didn't have anything to help you with....march14 gave you shelter, in my area bi noss din el ashrafiyeh(nota aounie place I can tell you) we opened schools and gave you shelter, as you know you probably in tarik el jdidé where 2 days earlier you were breaking cars and insulting omar they gave you shelter and food too. Then Sanioura and his team diplomacy saved the lebanese population(believe it or not I consider the shiias as lebanese) more suffering through the 7 points first then through the succes of fierce negotiations in ny for 1701 with the help of our ally jaques chirac and the talent of our minister of foreign affairs (lech ma ba3adto el salloukh dakehlkon???). So give me a break, we stood by you during the war and have always stood by you against israel(generally not the case of aounies), but of course you can't forbid us saying that you knew you were opening the gates of hell on lebanon with that kidnapping and it was DEFINITELY not for a lebanese agenda, and this attack DEFINITELY needed ali khamenei greenlight...
what bunch of liessssssss
from batroun to zgharta the familes were in thousands house din our homes and hearts with all the respect
as for achrafieh, ( AOUN land wa alef nouss) the christian from achrafieh to joinieh took their brothers out of love and respect and treated them with respect.

while in the druze area and in the tj area they were rejected abused and charged exorbitant prices for food and water.
we have friends in nigeria who's fa,ily wnet to jabal andhe was telling me that the druze were charging them ( 10000LL for a bottle of water) and taunting and thretening them.even they were putting wello flags by force on where the people were staying.
soauoua nd his wahhabi master were saying that whom ever did that uncalculated risk will pay for it, only to shut up and swallow their words when HA started resisting and winning.
at the first days, the schools in tj were refused to them and they had to stay in the open air.

we know that you guy lies about issues that we have not visula and documented proof, but to change the history and deny the observations of a million person affected and what they saw and felt is a new low in the sa3doun propaganda and seld serving distortions
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what bunch of liessssssss
from batroun to zgharta the familes were in thousands house din our homes and hearts with all the respect
as for achrafieh, ( AOUN land wa alef nouss) the christian from achrafieh to joinieh took their brothers out of love and respect and treated them with respect.

while in the druze area and in the tj area they were rejected abused and charged exorbitant prices for food and water.
we have friends in nigeria who's fa,ily wnet to jabal andhe was telling me that the druze were charging them ( 10000LL for a bottle of water) and taunting and thretening them.even they were putting wello flags by force on where the people were staying.
soauoua nd his wahhabi master were saying that whom ever did that uncalculated risk will pay for it, only to shut up and swallow their words when HA started resisting and winning.
at the first days, the schools in tj were refused to them and they had to stay in the open air.

we know that you guy lies about issues that we have not visula and documented proof, but to change the history and deny the observations of a million person affected and what they saw and felt is a new low in the sa3doun propaganda and seld serving distortions
tayyebb I have no ppoofs and you have no proofs(but plse don't tell me where I live is a aounie area) about the welcoming of refugees...what about diplomacy??? do you deny that war stopped after resolution 1701??do you deny there was a battle over its terms in NY? do you deny that it was tarek mitri and not fawzi saloukh carrying the lebanese claims?? let me know...
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your allies helped you with all what they had?? but they didn't have anything to help you with....
Stop twisting recent history. The southerners were received in most regions, but they were mostly welcomed with open arms in FPM and Marada regions. Everyone helped them, but not everyone made them comfortable and feel right at home.
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march14 gave you shelter, in my area bi noss din el ashrafiyeh(nota aounie place I can tell you)
we'll see in 2009. It's only a few months away.
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la2 ken na2iss u don't consider them lebanese. Shou terbi7 jmile ya3ne?
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more suffering through the 7 points first then through the succes of fierce negotiations in ny for 1701 with the help of our ally jaques chirac and the talent of our minister of foreign affairs (lech ma ba3adto el salloukh dakehlkon???).
Wohahaha. That was what ended the war? looooooool
What ended it was the fierce resistance of the HA fighters and the grave casualties and losses suffered by the IDF. It certainly wasn't Siniora's tears nor diplomacy. U do remember the war lasted 33 days, right? so why didn't this diplomacy work until this late?
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your allies helped you with all what they had?? but they didn't have anything to help you with....march14 gave you shelter, in my area bi noss din el ashrafiyeh(nota aounie place I can tell you) we opened schools and gave you shelter, as you know you probably in tarik el jdidé where 2 days earlier you were breaking cars and insulting omar they gave you shelter and food too.
I heard lots and lots of stories of how specifically Beirutis (in the areast you mentioned) reacted to Shi'as "invading" their areas during the war. Lots of bigotry and lots of hatred.

And now here you are to sell it back to us. Go find some self-respect, 7aji trabi7 jmeeleh 3ala wala shi. HA fought while everyone conspired against them, and in the end they said we don't want credit or a thankyou, this is a victory for all of Lebanon. Take a lesson from them. Those who truly did help the refugees out of their humanity wouldn't be here gloating about it, and those who didn't would be here shamelessly claiming they did.

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Then Sanioura and his team diplomacy saved the lebanese population
You actually believe this ********? His "diplomacy" was the equivalent of a whining child with crocadile tears streaming down his face, and then a smile and kisses for mommy condi as she came to reward his efforts. And the ordeal in the Marjeyoun barracks was probably just to make her extra, extra proud, huh?

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(believe it or not I consider the shiias as lebanese)
Wow, you say it as if you are doing Shi'as a favor.

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more suffering through the 7 points first then through the succes of fierce negotiations in ny for 1701 with the help of our ally jaques chirac and the talent of our minister of foreign affairs (lech ma ba3adto el salloukh dakehlkon???).
Yeah. That's why Israel authored 1701. I have news for you dude. Sanyura's 7 points are ********. 1701 is ********. At the end of the day, Sanyura's 7 points have become besides irrelevant, and even Israel admits that 1701 has also become irrelevant.

This is why March 14 are idiots. They cling to international resolutions as if they mean something, or as if they are relevant to the realities on the ground, or as if they have an ounce of legitimacy or substance. Peices of paper don't protect countries (esp when they call for dismantling the only available defense we have). Armed forces protect countries.

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So give me a break, we stood by you during the war and have always stood by you against israel(generally not the case of aounies),
Who the hell is "we"? Jumblatt gave speeches to Zionist think tanks in Washignton, advising them on how to deal with HA. Fatfat ordered Lebanese troops to service invading soldiers and confiscate weapons supplies to HA fighters in the South. Sanyura was in bed with Condi, treating her to kisses and lunch instead of lambasting her country for engineering the war that was waged on us. Gemayel wanted peace with the Israelis when he was president. Geagea was, has been, and still is a paid IDF mercenary.

"Have always stood by you against Israel" my ***.

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but of course you can't forbid us saying that you knew you were opening the gates of hell on lebanon with that kidnapping and it was DEFINITELY not for a lebanese agenda, and this attack DEFINITELY needed ali khamenei greenlight...
Yeah, cuz you were there when they planned the attack and you were there when the greenlight was given. Just like you were always against Israel.

Right.
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do you deny there was a battle over its terms in NY?
Dude, what freaking planet do you live on? A battle? BATTLE? HA fought against the "invincible army" for 33 days, and kicked ***, and here you are peddling the pinocchio tales of Tarek Mitri's battlefield heroics in NY?

Dude. Seriously. Get over yourself. If 1701 is what you are so proud of, perhaps you should read it. It isn't something to be proud of. It is dripping in pro-Zionist bias. Not to mention that it is irrelevant anyway....
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are you accusing your allies of having decided themselves of the july war??wallaw 3ayb....

ANY important decision in HA is taken in Iran, this is their law and their system and Nasrallah said it once :"we are proud to be hezb wilayat el fakih....they asks us to be tolerant", uff thank you ali khamenei... what if he changes his mind??
You seem to have read about the welayit e fakih subject but apparently not enough.
the belief is in the concept "welayit el fakih"; obviously the person who the believers follow should be "fakih" which is the highest degree of knowlege in a certain subject. Now the question is who is the "Fakih" in the lebanese politics? is he SHN for example or is he khamen2i? you need to separate between the concept and the person, khamen2i is definitly the religious fakih for HA but when it comes to politics SHN has the delegation simply because Khamen2i is not the fakih in it. Having said that not all Shi3a scholars believe in welayit el fakih outside of the religious context.
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