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[Shia4lyf]

22:04 اسرائيل تعارض تسليح الجيش اللبناني وتواصل ضغوطاتها على واشنطن لمنعها من تزويد الجيش بالأسلحة
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To all who want to disarm HA what is your reply to the Zoinest state.
One more the US will never do anything to harm their illegale baby ISrael.
SO IF you agree to disarm HA and make lebanon weak say yes.
If no then be quite and stop talking about HA arms.

[roch10452]

Originally Posted by Shia4lyf

22:04 اسرائيل تعارض تسليح الجيش اللبناني وتواصل ضغوطاتها على واشنطن لمنعها من تزويد الجيش بالأسلحة
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To all who want to disarm HA what is your reply to the Zoinest state.
One more the US will never do anything to harm their illegale baby ISrael.
SO IF you agree to disarm HA and make lebanon weak say yes.
If no then be quite and stop talking about HA arms.

well what is Hezbo's opinion about this?
if isreal doesnt want the LA to get weapons, shouldnt Hezbo do everything against this and help the LA in its needs?
maybe give it its own weapons if necessary, get more weapons for the LA from Iran?
even better, tell the world and the USA that Hezbo is not against the west, and that if the LA is well armed to defend lebanon, Hezbo will not need its military wing anymore and it will become a peaceful political party.

Can they do that?

[Abufijli]

Originally Posted by roch10452

well what is Hezbo's opinion about this?
if isreal doesnt want the LA to get weapons, shouldnt Hezbo do everything against this and help the LA in its needs?
maybe give it its own weapons if necessary, get more weapons for the LA from Iran?
even better, tell the world and the USA that Hezbo is not against the west, and that if the LA is well armed to defend lebanon, Hezbo will not need its military wing anymore and it will become a peaceful political party.

Can they do that?

No they can not, the weapons are staying for as long as we walk this earth. CASE CLOSED!

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Jorje

It's called a scientific survey, Dalzi. You don't go around every home to ask. Statistical analysis on a randomized sample provides excellent estimations on the whole population. Statistics 101.

Scientific survey Washington DC my shoe. The earth is flat is more convincing than what comes out of when they shove their noses in our politics. Take it from our community, which is what i know, definitely much less than 96% of the Shiaa are pro-HA. There's the FSM lol and the communists and the Israelis and those who still live in the past and want to bring Al Asaad back, and and. So no, less than 96% of the Shiaa are HA.

And of course much more than 96% of the Sunnis 3endon sharaf w 3a2l.Take what happened on ground as an example. 18% of votes in Beirut going to Saad is proof. And of course "2eza ta7t lshitiiiiiiii shal3outein w noooooss, keif law shammaseeeeeeeeeeet".

And saying that 87% of the Christians are also "unfavorable" is by all means a way to breath the soul into the dying LF and Kataeb. 7ajmon w fe3lon 3al 2ard = Zero. The opposing Christian groups are the weakest, and if something la samma7allah happens, you'd see the Sunnis attacking them before anyone else. 2enno ma yfakkro 7alon 3antar, 2eza baddon ymaskhlouya bnofromon farm. It also is an indication that FPMers are hypocrites.

All in all, this is more like "Pr" McNamaras studies on "Identity" .

If such is true, then by all means Lebanon should be demolished and integrated into the land it was before "Bilad Al Sham". It's a hybrid entity that was a pure mistake.

Or rather, go divide it more. I personally am not interested in living with mortals who don't give a da*n about our safety. I put my community and family before God.

Plus, HA is too strong for anyone to stand up before it. If you thought it was strong, your knees would rattle if you know what's happening to it now. Numbers would alone cause heart attacks. I'd give up quick had I been a crescade or a crusade.

Anymore animosity to be spilled on the HA thread? 3ala lra7b.

[Frisbeetarian]

well what is Hezbo's opinion about this?
if isreal doesnt want the LA to get weapons, shouldnt Hezbo do everything against this and help the LA in its needs?
maybe give it its own weapons if necessary, get more weapons for the LA from Iran?
even better, tell the world and the USA that Hezbo is not against the west, and that if the LA is well armed to defend lebanon, Hezbo will not need its military wing anymore and it will become a peaceful political party.

Can they do that?

No, because classic warfare dominates in our army's operations. If engaged in war with israel it would be blown to smizereens. The reason why gorrilla tactics that the hizb adobted worked so sublimely. Arming lf is trivial when u really think about it, unless your talking about offensive systems which they would never trade (talking about the us here of course).

And btw its to our advantage that the hizb is the only one fighting israel, because that way israel cant freely bomb all of our infastructure.

[Shia4lyf]

Originally Posted by roch10452

well what is Hezbo's opinion about this?
if isreal doesnt want the LA to get weapons, shouldnt Hezbo do everything against this and help the LA in its needs?
maybe give it its own weapons if necessary, get more weapons for the LA from Iran?
even better, tell the world and the USA that Hezbo is not against the west, and that if the LA is well armed to defend lebanon, Hezbo will not need its military wing anymore and it will become a peaceful political party.

Can they do that?

Iran wanted to equip our military with advanced weapon, your beloved Pm refused to do so.
And to be honest the LA won't stand a chance against the Zoinest army even if they have HA weapones. Dont get me wrong here but if the LA wants to fight in a classical warfare then they will be hunted like rabits cause ISrael has the most advanced airplanes, so they control the air .

[Jorje]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Scientific survey Washington DC my shoe. The earth is flat is more convincing than what comes out of when they shove their noses in our politics. Take it from our community, which is what i know, definitely much less than 96% of the Shiaa are pro-HA. There's the FSM lol and the communists and the Israelis and those who still live in the past and want to bring Al Asaad back, and and. So no, less than 96% of the Shiaa are HA.

And of course much more than 96% of the Sunnis 3endon sharaf w 3a2l.Take what happened on ground as an example. 18% of votes in Beirut going to Saad is proof. And of course "2eza ta7t lshitiiiiiiii shal3outein w noooooss, keif law shammaseeeeeeeeeeet".

And saying that 87% of the Christians are also "unfavorable" is by all means a way to breath the soul into the dying LF and Kataeb. 7ajmon w fe3lon 3al 2ard = Zero. The opposing Christian groups are the weakest, and if something la samma7allah happens, you'd see the Sunnis attacking them before anyone else. 2enno ma yfakkro 7alon 3antar, 2eza baddon ymaskhlouya bnofromon farm. It also is an indication that FPMers are hypocrites.

All in all, this is more like "Pr" McNamaras studies on "Identity" .

If such is true, then by all means Lebanon should be demolished and integrated into the land it was before "Bilad Al Sham". It's a hybrid entity that was a pure mistake.

Or rather, go divide it more. I personally am not interested in living with mortals who don't give a da*n about our safety. I put my community and family before God.

Plus, HA is too strong for anyone to stand up before it. If you thought it was strong, your knees would rattle if you know what's happening to it now. Numbers would alone cause heart attacks. I'd give up quick had I been a crescade or a crusade.

Anymore animosity to be spilled on the HA thread? 3ala lra7b.

Dalzi, I agree with some things and disagree with some others.

For popularity among Shiites, the surveyers said that HA support among Shiites has risen from 85% from last year to 96%. Plus, the question wasn't if you support HA. It was whether you look favorably at them. You know it's not the same. We don't know how support and popularity changed in the space of 4 years, especially that so much happened. And the poll accounts for a change of popularity because of the rise from 86%.

The same reasoning goes with the Sunnis. Opinions changed a lot after the invasion of Beirut. And again, remember that even the supporters of Karami and other Sunni allies might support a political alliance with HA but still look unfavorably at it.

And again the same thing goes with the Christians. The 86% that look unfavorably at HA might still support the political alliance between FPM and HA but still look unfavorably at HA. As I said, it's not the same. Especially that much of FPM's propaganda has been based on HA being the least worse option of the two.

As for divisions w ballout, I agree. If division means more peace then I'm all for it.

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Pew is an independent organization and the survey on Hezbollah is a small part of a huge poll in all of the world. Read the report. There are many interesting things. For example, Hezbollah has more support in Sunni Arab countries than in Lebanon itself. If they're biased why would they point out such a thing? There might be problems in methodology but I'll leave it for expert statisticians to find them. I think though as a polling organization they know what they're doing, and the sample is quite big (1000) for a small country like Lebanon. Polls have time and time again shown how accurate they can be.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by roch10452

well what is Hezbo's opinion about this?
if isreal doesnt want the LA to get weapons, shouldnt Hezbo do everything against this and help the LA in its needs?
maybe give it its own weapons if necessary, get more weapons for the LA from Iran?
even better, tell the world and the USA that Hezbo is not against the west, and that if the LA is well armed to defend lebanon, Hezbo will not need its military wing anymore and it will become a peaceful political party.

Can they do that?

Give the "Hezbo" the command of the Army and the responsibility of the defense department,then you will see how "Hezbo" can build you one of the best Armies in the region,and equip it with the best high tech weapons...while at the same time telling US and Israel to go f**k themselves.

Do we have a deal ?

Probably no...You people don't even have the B*lls to stand up to the US...So Israel is way out of your league i guess.

Keep shining shoes.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Jorje

Dalzi, I agree with some things and disagree with some others.

For popularity among Shiites, the surveyers said that HA support among Shiites has risen from 85% from last year to 96%. Plus, the question wasn't if you support HA. It was whether you look favorably at them. You know it's not the same. We don't know how support and popularity changed in the space of 4 years, especially that so much happened. And the poll accounts for a change of popularity because of the rise from 86%.

The same reasoning goes with the Sunnis. Opinions changed a lot after the invasion of Beirut. And again, remember that even the supporters of Karami and other Sunni allies might support a political alliance with HA but still look unfavorably at it.

And again the same thing goes with the Christians. The 86% that look unfavorably at HA might still support the political alliance between FPM and HA but still look unfavorably at HA. As I said, it's not the same. Especially that much of FPM's propaganda has been based on HA being the worse option of the two.

As for divisions w ballout, I agree. If division means more peace then I'm all for it.

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Pew is an independent organization and the survey on Hezbollah is a small part of a huge poll in all of the world. Read the report. There are many interesting things. For example, Hezbollah has more support in Sunni Arab countries than in Lebanon itself. If they're biased why would they point out such a thing? There might be problems in methodology but I'll leave it for expert statisticians to find them. I think though as a polling organization they know what they're doing, and the sample is quite big (1000) for a small country like Lebanon. Polls have time and time again shown how accurate they can be.

I can speak of my community, who better knows what happened in the past four years?

And in which category do you fall? Not the Christian one? This talk of secularism is so lame.

Tell me this, so 96% of the Shiaa are "favourable" towards HA? Hell no, no way! As for the other sects, if favourable is not the same as supportive, which is something you're right about, that is normal in Lebanon. Every sect favours what is its. That's why, knowning so, we won't let ourselves be weak for anyone to be happy :). The weapons are staying till The Day of Judgement, mark my words :). We, the people, will never allow Nasrallah to trade with our blood and give our only means of defence up to those who gave us up. And i'm pretty sure the man is way too smart for us to have to tell him what's best ;). However, the defence strategy is something we have no probem with since it entails "defence".

As for the division, to be honest with you, i've never cared for any part of Lebanon or anyone but the places where people care for me. I mean why would i? Natural. The problem with dividing that rotten piece is that division won't bring peace. You'd have cantons fighting each other, and all will persih. However, I'd gladly merge what was divided before and appoint a dictator over the hateful population. Especially since I know that division, not unity, is what the enemy wants.

And, i'm not surpried that you'd go for division, it's a trademark.

One day all will be united under one flag.

[Jorje]

One day all will be united under one flag.

Which flag is that?