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[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

You guys have a strange way of defining success! You get pummeled in a war and destroy half the country and kill 1200 people, yet you see it as success! And now on an FPM forum dominated by HA, about 1/3 of the people think HA doesn't protect it from anyone or anything! Wow this is a huge loss!

30 percent of ppl here are like u and not fpmers, so instead of assuming u genius that this forum is "dominated" by HA as ur phobias tell u, u should thk the forum for its big diversity. u don't find ur paradoxes confusing u guys don't u ?

and don't talk about loss, LF geageaist thugs killed ppl left and right in the days of civil war and it was not planned, it was just anarchy, so don't think u can know the difference between loss and success if u follow the pain daktor.
u went down and shot ppl in the streets becuz they blocked it with burnt tires, don't think everybody forgets that easily, i don't care if we are from the same community to pretend forgetfulness about this .

success in 2006 means that Hizbullah stopped ur israeli buddies from forcing its conditions unto the rest of us and has managed to put ur LF party in particular in the little dark corner it deserves instead of giving u guys the chance post summer 2006, god forbid, of strutting ur "might" on the ground if ur ally isreal had won the conflict.

bala dawaran, it is as simple as this.

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

success in 2006 means that Hizbullah stopped ur israeli buddies from forcing its conditions unto the rest of us and has managed to put ur LF party in particular in the little dark corner it deserves instead of giving u guys the chance post summer 2006, god forbid, of strutting ur "might" on the ground if ur ally isreal had won the conflict.

bala dawaran, it is as simple as this.

bala laf wou dawaran, if you had not kidnapped the Israelis on their land we wouldn't have been pummeled for 2 months and lost 1200 people and infrastructure. But, as we all know, when the orders come from Iran, it's not like you can argue with them. They ask you to jump, all you can ask is how high...

[chafic]

Originally Posted by elias-aj

Tsedek,

You, as an israeli, consider that HA is the reason for the israeli aggression. Lebanese consider HA as a strategic asset because it is a deterrent force against Israel.

Not really all Lebanese elias. What do you think?

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

bala laf wou dawaran, if you had not kidnapped the Israelis on their land we wouldn't have been pummeled for 2 months and lost 1200 people and infrastructure. But, as we all know, when the orders come from Iran, it's not like you can argue with them. They ask you to jump, all you can ask is how high...

if ur "patriotic" leaders had bothered to bring back lebanese rights instead of shinning the boots of this and that external power forever we wouldnt be having this discussion.

and if i as an fpmer kidnapped these two israelis like u so quaintly put it then ur traitor leaders that formed the 2005 quartet goverment that "supported the resistance" kidnapped them more, ya i'm talking about that 2 faced geagea thug that represented u guys in that goverment.

bala dawaran wa tazaki, we still have a working memory here.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by chafic

Not really all Lebanese elias. What do you think?

of course not all lebanese.
but the question is what did those substantial others do to remedy the situation instead of aggravating it.
i dont think that what is happening in the north is the way to fix it.
i dont think that forming the quartet in 2005 to backstab half of it is aslo the way to fix things.
and finally, i dont think that passing a resolution at 5am in the morning by a broken goverment to outlaw the communication network of the Hizb is gonna in any way fix it.

and yeah, shedding crocodile tears as israel attacks as doesnt solve it.

if i had to choose between backstabbing/crocodile tears and katyousha
rockets i choose the latter.

but i don't want to do that choice, i want to start the discussion, i want the MoU and if possible something better.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

No, to eliminate the PLO who were behaving like HA is today.

Could you explain yourself...PLO and HA are behaving the same

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

You guys have a strange way of defining success! You get pummeled in a war and destroy half the country and kill 1200 people, yet you see it as success! And now on an FPM forum dominated by HA, about 1/3 of the people think HA doesn't protect it from anyone or anything! Wow this is a huge loss!

Define success using geagea's LF as an example....we want to laugh

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

Could you explain yourself...PLO and HA are behaving the same

yit7arkasho bil Israelis

[chafic]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

of course not all lebanese.
but the question is what did those substantial others do to remedy the situation instead of aggravating it.
i dont think that what is happening in the north is the way to fix it.
i dont think that forming the quartet in 2005 to backstab half of it is aslo the way to fix things.
and finally, i dont think that passing a resolution at 5am in the morning by a broken goverment to outlaw the communication network of the Hizb is gonna in any way fix it.

and yeah, shedding crocodile tears as israel attacks as doesnt solve it.

if i had to choose between backstabbing/crocodile tears and katyousha
rockets i choose the latter.

but i don't want to do that choice, i want to start the discussion, i want the MoU and if possible something better.

The choice is not between Siniora and Hezbollah, but between Hezbollah (which represents statelessness, fanaticism, and violence) and a liberal state (which could very much be unperfect, but still another model than the one Hezbollah offers).

As for the MoU, I think time proved that it's only a title for a much more simplistic alliance of interests, based on power slicing and sectarianism. It's too far from being any road map for a solution, especially after the too many events that happened, during which that paper ended up being just a cover for a sordid power sharing alliance.

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

if ur "patriotic" leaders had bothered to bring back lebanese rights instead of shinning the boots of this and that external power forever we wouldnt be having this discussion.

Who is shining the Syrian and Iranian boot at the expense of Lebanon? Ba3ed ilak 3ein ti7ki kamen?!! Unbelievable, the nerve of these people! He talks about shining boots and all you see is pictures of Khomeini and Assad in Da7ye and Baalbak!