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[roeshieroe23]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

iran doesn't mind talking and speculating about it openly to the press, but you on the other hand do not want to even touch this topic at all because it forces you to face reality and what you are knowingly overlooking, while peddling your propaganda to the christian street.

فعلا تعانون ممن إفلاس سياسي, تفتقرون لأي مشروع تناقشون فيه و تقنعون العالم به لذلك تلجأون إلى البحت عن ما يشد عصب الناس !
سأناقشك في ههذا الأمر طالما آنت مصر , و خصوصا علاقة التيار بهذا الأمر .
حزب الله أذا أراد إن يدافع عن إيران في أي هجوم عسكري على إيران , لا أنت و لا أنا و لا التيار و لا البيان الوزاري و لا أي شيء يمنعه, جيد!!!
أذن االمعني بهذا الأمر هو حزب الله, تفاهمه مع التيار واضح ليس فيه أي بند يعطيه الحق الدفاع عن إيران و هو وقع على هذا الأمر و التزم به و حدود التفاهم معروفة , طيب, البيان الوزاري لم يعطه الحق الدفاع عن إيران و حدود مقاومته معروفة, و مشى في البيان و الحكومة ستأخد الثقة على هذا البيان, جيد
لم يقل أي مسؤول رفيع من حزب الله إنهم سيدافعون عن إيران إذا هوجمت , و كل خطابهم عن تحرير ما تبقى من الأراضي اللبنانية و وقف الخروق و التعديات و الإستراتيجية الدفاعية
ما قاله الإيراني أن حل المشكل النووي سيحل عدة مشاكل في المنطقة و هذا شيء معروف لأنه هناك كباش و صراع سياسي في المنطقة و حل المشاكل العالقة سيخفف من هذا الصراع , الموجود في العراق و لبنان و فلسطين و أماكن أخرى, و هل أحد أنكر هذا الأمر بدون إطلاعنا على تصريح الإيراني لأن الأمريكي يستعمل حلفاؤه في المنطقة و الإيراني كذلك و لولا ذلك لما شاهدنا كل هذه الأزمات و لما ارتفع سعر البترول و و و, و أي حل للمشكل الهم في المنطقة سيحلحل التشنج
ممكن تسقط نفس التصريح على أي مسؤول آخر غير إيراني , مصري أو سعودي أو تركي و ستفهم معنى التصريح

في الأخير العلاقة بين الحزب و التيار قائمة علي الثقة و الإلتزام و التفاهم, و بنوده واضحة و محددة و الطرفين وقعا و صادقا عليها و أي علاقة لبناء الوطن تقوم على التفاهم و الثقة و ليس التخويف و التخوين و الضغط, نحن نرى في حزب االله شريك في الوطن و ليس غرباء أو أداة أو دمية..,
و كما قال وزير الدفاع الأمريكي نحن لسنا في مسرح للدمى
إذا أنتم تنظرون لحزب الله بهذه الصورة لما تحاورونه, لماذا توافقون على دخوله الحكومة, لماذا تحاورونه في البيان الوزاري و تعطونه حق المقاومة, يعني في 2005 لم يكن ليدافع عن إيران ? أم أنه مسموح أن يتفق مع الحزب في البيان الوزاري لتكوين السلطة و ليس مسموحا به بين القوى الكبرى للتفاهم لبناء الوطن و الشراكة
حزب الله معروف أين يوجد , و ههناك طريقان كل واحد يختار الذي ييراه إنسب , من يريد وطن الشراكة و الثقة بين أبناء الوطن لبناء الوطن سوية, و هذا طريق الذي سلكه التيار اتفق فيه مع الطرف اللبناني الآخر و قربوا وجهات النظر و اتفقوا ووقعوا و التزموا
إذا لا تثقون و لا تريدون التفاهم و لا تريدون العيش المشترك و تعتبرونهم ثلث االشعب أداة و دمية, طريقهم معروف, اذهبوا و انزعوا سلاحهم إذا استطعتم و أرموهم في البحر, و ترتاحون و تريحيننا من نقكم و تريحون الآخرين

هذا الطريق لا نعرفه, و كل واحد يعرف ما يناسبه
التفاهم مع الحزب معروف و ملتزم به و سائر إلى الأمام و أعطى ثماره و مازلنا سالكين الطريق الذي نعرفه, إذا نجح و نجحت رؤية الجنرال فسيعود بالنفع على كل الناس و على الوطن , إذا لا سمح الله لم ينجح , فسنعتبر أن رؤيتنا لم تنجح و نتنحى , و يكفينا فخرا إننا حاولنا و لم نبق جالسين ننق ك.... و ننتظر الحل , سيبقى رأسنا مرفوعا أننا طلاب حلول و سعاة خير و مبادرات, و لسنا ممن يبكي على الأطلال إنما أناس ذو رؤى تصيب و تخطئ و نبقى راضين عن أنفسنا أمام الأجيال القادمة إن نجحنا نفتخر بإنجازنا و نفتخر أننا أسسنا للوطن الحديث الدولة القوية القادرة العادلة لكل أبنائها, و إذا لم ننجح , نفتخر بإنجازنا أننا حاولنا و لم ننبقى ننق و نبكي و نتوجس , و يبقى أن تحاول, أصبت أم أخطأت خير من أن لم تفعل أي شيء, و إذا سألنا أولادنا نقول بكل فخر أننا حاولنا و لم ننجح, لكن الآخرين مماذا ستقولون, كنا ننق على الآخرين لماذا كانوا يحاولون إيجاد الحلول, و إذا سألوكم ماذا قدمتم أنتم, لا شيء شعارات شعارات شعارات

ما أنت خائف منه يا صديقي , سهل على الحزب سواء كان في الحكومة أو خارجها , لا تصريحات 14 آذار و لا غير ذلك ما تمنعه إنما إرادته الخاصة, الصعب هو أن تتفاهم معه و تعطيه التقة و تجعله لا يفعلها بالتفاهم , و تجعله شريك في الوطن , و تجعله ملتزم أمام نفسه و أمام الناس بالتفاهم
إذا أراد الحزب الدفاع عن إيران لا شيء يستطيع منعه إذا أراد ذلك, المهم كيف تجعل هذه الإرادة عنده مع لبنان و مع شركاؤه في الوطن , هناك طريقان, التفاهم أو المواجهة, من يرى أن المصلحة في هذا الطريق أو ذلك فليسلكه, المعيب أن لا تسلك أي طريق و ترمي من يسلكه بالحجارة و و تنتظر الحلول كما هو حال مسيحيو 14 آذار, يريدون الدولة و الجيش و لا يريدون مقاومة و لا يطرحون أي حل أو بديل, فقط إنزعوا سلاح حزب االله و حطموا الجنرال عون
لا يريدون توطين و لا يطرحون كيف يمنعونه
المهم ماذا لو لم ييكن أصلا أي حرب, هل ستبحتون عن فزاعة أخرى تخيفون بها االناس, ليش مشكلا أن تقولو هذا, المهم ااطرحوا حلا أو رؤية له و ابتعدوا عن الن

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[Les Taire]

Originally Posted by Shia4lyf

Hey Les Taire I am here talking for myself, Freedom lovers, and for HA when i say if defending little palestinians children who are being killed by Isreal bombs
is a sin, I say we r proud to make this sin over and over.
Know I really know that you and the LF rahter be a Jewish puppet instead of being free persons. I wonder if geagea was out of prison during the occupation of south lebanon will he support the resistance or clap for the jewish massacre, i think he will be clapping.

And before you say we are Iranian puppets i say we are proud of being Iranian puppets instead of Jewish ones.

we are ashraff al nass, the divine peoples!!!

[Diabolo_7]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

even the humvees they gave/sold us don't have armor plating.

but they are excellent for hunting trips

[CPL]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

Negotiate with Israel just like your hero in Syria is doing!
Why destroy all of Lebanon to save Shebaa when it can be saved diplomatically!?!

Saved diplomatically? Oh you mean Shebba for peace. You are hallucinating, you think Israel will throw away 3 $billion yearly just like that?

[mehdi soldier]

Originally Posted by superduper703

Israel cannot justify launching military action against Lebanon if Lebanon buys airplanes. Consequently, it cannot justify such war if Lebanon buys anti-air missiles.

Now, if HA does the same, then the story changes. Common sense, my friend, common sense.

...because when what you describe as "lebanon" gets armament,they are to be used as mazhariyyeh in saniora's bathroom.

if lebanon or hezballah or whoever buys weapons,who's the target?"israel",ofcourse!

so then,why would "israel" feel threatened and would want to declare war when hezballah gets weapons but not IF "lebanon" gets weapons?

even the so called "decision of peace and war" to be held by the govt. is simply for the fact that the decision to go to war to free land or prisoner would never be taken by the govt.it is not related at all with any argument of sovereignty whether you think hezballah is working for or against the country's sovereignty.you simply want the dead lebanese govt. to solely have the decision in its hands because it will never use that decision of war and "israel" would have peace and rest of mind while our country continue to suffer from occupation and israeli violations.

the question now,is why hasnt "lebanon" bought weapons including anti-aircraft missiles and why hasnt "lebanon" bought enough weapons of all types and kinds to protect itself?

what is the guarantees that "israel" wont even react worst with "lebanon" than with hezballah?and what guarantees that "lebanon" would be able to withstand the israeli fire power like a guerilla movement built in secrecy?

and i want to repeat the question i have always asked without response:why didnt the lebanese state send its forces in the late 70s when imam musa al sadr was urging it to take its responsibilities to protect its citizens from israeli aggression and palestinian gangsterism?or the state is now willing to do when the people have found an alternative (in themselves) and have come to confirm that sovereignty is indeed from the people?does that sound right,or there is something fishy?

[Shia4lyf]

HA will always make them selves more powerfull by buying new weapons cause new wars are diffrent than old wars. lets take the anti tank weapons as an example if Ha didn't optain them isreal would have accupied the south or went deep into the south to reach sour, But as always Ha is smart he knows how things go.

[4U2IMI8]

Israel is giving new meanings to the terms hypocrisy and arrogance. They will not allow any neighboring country to match their military strength, or even come close to it. I have news for them and all the Lebanese who want to disarm HA.
HA’s strength today exceeds that of Israel’s in a conventional confrontation between the two. Not in terms of technology, but in terms of the ability to use weapons to maximize their intended effects. Israel is getting very restless; the US backed off trying to get rid of HA, and at the same time HA has gained weapons that will shake Israel’s existence in case it tries to venture into Lebanon like it did in 2006.
Very few understand the abilities of HA, some of my previous posts carried hints of what’s in store for Israel in case another war erupts.
In 2006 HA possessed weapons that could’ve drastically altered the war, the use of those weapons was deemed not necessary at the time. HA knew that the war was not a decisive one and to reveal what they had would give Israel the advantage in the next round. HA used enough weapons to shock the Israelis and their masters in the US. HA also knew that they could hold their ground, preventing the IDF from establishing a foothold on Lebanese ground. HA hardly used any of its vast resources in the July war, be it human or military. One brigade only was doing the actual fighting while others were on standby in case they were needed. Less than 5000 fighters participated in that war against the 50,000 Israel massed against HA.
Israel did not learn as much as we did from the July war. We now know exactly how to defeat them, and this time around they will be begging for mercy.
In the last war test incursions were done to study the feasibility of infiltrating the border and occupying towns in northern Palestine. The incursions were a complete success; towns were completely taken and occupied for periods of time than withdrawn from.
The advantage that Israel has over us is the air force. When that threat is eliminated, and stopped at its tracks, the Israeli defense will fall like domino pieces. That threat has been eliminated, and could’ve been in 2006. Israel and the US know that very well.
We will not give Israel any excuse to launch a war, but they will find one and they will attack. All I can say is prepare yourselves to be awed at the abilities of the few thousand dedicated, unknown men who seek nothing but the chance to defend their land and honor.

[mikeys71]

Originally Posted by 4U2IMI8

Israel is giving new meanings to the terms hypocrisy and arrogance. They will not allow any neighboring country to match their military strength, or even come close to it. I have news for them and all the Lebanese who want to disarm HA.
HA’s strength today exceeds that of Israel’s in a conventional confrontation between the two. Not in terms of technology, but in terms of the ability to use weapons to maximize their intended effects. Israel is getting very restless; the US backed off trying to get rid of HA, and at the same time HA has gained weapons that will shake Israel’s existence in case it tries to venture into Lebanon like it did in 2006.
Very few understand the abilities of HA, some of my previous posts carried hints of what’s in store for Israel in case another war erupts.
In 2006 HA possessed weapons that could’ve drastically altered the war, the use of those weapons was deemed not necessary at the time. HA knew that the war was not a decisive one and to reveal what they had would give Israel the advantage in the next round. HA used enough weapons to shock the Israelis and their masters in the US. HA also knew that they could hold their ground, preventing the IDF from establishing a foothold on Lebanese ground. HA hardly used any of its vast resources in the July war, be it human or military. One brigade only was doing the actual fighting while others were on standby in case they were needed. Less than 5000 fighters participated in that war against the 50,000 Israel massed against HA.
Israel did not learn as much as we did from the July war. We now know exactly how to defeat them, and this time around they will be begging for mercy.
In the last war test incursions were done to study the feasibility of infiltrating the border and occupying towns in northern Palestine. The incursions were a complete success; towns were completely taken and occupied for periods of time than withdrawn from.
The advantage that Israel has over us is the air force. When that threat is eliminated, and stopped at its tracks, the Israeli defense will fall like domino pieces. That threat has been eliminated, and could’ve been in 2006. Israel and the US know that very well.
We will not give Israel any excuse to launch a war, but they will find one and they will attack. All I can say is prepare yourselves to be awed at the abilities of the few thousand dedicated, unknown men who seek nothing but the chance to defend their land and honor.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with day dreaming.........

[mehdi soldier]

Originally Posted by mikeys71

There is absolutely nothing wrong with day dreaming.........

you're right!whats wrong is having an inferiority complex and taking the israeli for greek gods!!!

[4U2IMI8]

Originally Posted by mikeys71

there is absolutely nothing wrong with day dreaming.........

فيه مثل لبناني بيئول، يللي بيعرف بيعرف ويللي ما بيعرف بيئول كف عدس.... سامع فيه ؟ عكل حال جوابك ما بيدل الا عن حرقة قلبك انت وغيرك، هيهات منا الذلة