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حكومة العدو الأمنية تبحث قدرات حزب الله العسكرية تقرير خاص قناة المنار -احمد عمار تناقش الحكومة الاسرائيلية الامنية بلورة سياسة جديدة حيال الوضع في لبنان في ظل تزايد المخاوف في اسرائيل من احتمال تزود حزب الله بالصواريخ المضادة للطائرات
ففي جو من التكتم الشديد فرضته اوامر مشددة من الرقابة العسكرية الاسرائيلية حول كل ما يرتبط بالشأن اللبناني، تناقش الحكومة الأمنية الاسرائيلية بلورة سياسة جديدة حيال الوضع في لبنان على ضوء ما تصفه أوساط العدو بالخرق المتزايد للقرار 1701 وما وصفته بالبيان المتطرف للحكومة اللبنانية الجديدة والبند المتعلق بالمقاومة في ظل قلق متزايد عبرت عنه المؤسسة الامنية ووزارة الخارجية الاسرائيلية من وتيرة تسلُّح حزب الله التي تأخذ منحاً تصاعدياً واضحاً بحسب مصادر سياسية اسرئيلية
ويقول المختص الصهيوني بالشؤون العربية تسفي يحزكالي "وافقت الحكومة اللبنانية الجديدة على خطوط اساسية تظهر مدى الانتصار المؤثر لحزب الله في هذه الحكومة حيث ان البند الاول هو بند المقاومة واستعادة الارض والذي يعني وجود وثيقة رسمية تقول إنَّ الحزب هو قوة تعمل باسم الدولة لاستعادة الارض
الى ذلك، تفاعل الحديث في اسرائيل عن احتمال تزوُّد حزب الله بصواريخ مضادة للطائرات والذي ولد هاجسا في المؤسسة العسكرية الاسرائيلية من انه في حال أدخل الحزب صواريخ متطورة ضد الطائرات الى لبنان فسيكون سلاح الجو الاسرائيلي ملزما بتغيير طبيعة تحليق طائراته في الاجواء اللبنانية بشكل مؤثر.وبحسب صحيفة هارتس فإنَّ مناقشات معمقة جرت مؤخراً على أعلى المستويات العسكرية والسياسية الاسرائيلية حول إمكانية أن يَنشر حزب الله صواريخ من هذا النوع على جبال لبنان في محاولة لتقييد حركة سلاح الجو وشن هجوم يؤدي الى اندلاع المواجهة مجددا مع اسرائيل. وقدَّر اوساط العدو هذا الامر كخط أحمر ينبغي على اسرائيل ان ترد عليه بارسال اشارات عنيفة ضد الحزب
وفي سياق مرتبط اجرت منظومة الدفاع الجوي في اسرائيل مناورة لاعتراض عشرات الصواريخ التي تطلق بشكل متوازي من كل من لبنان وسوريا وايران واعتبرت هذه المناورة رسالة دعائية في ظل تعاظم المخاوف الاسرائيلية من زيادة القدرة الصاروخية لهذه الاطراف كما ونوعاً
ويقول العميد داني ميلو قائد قوات الدفاع الجوي "نحن ننظر دائماً إلى الطرف الآخر وكيف تنتشر التهديدات وكذلك على مستوى الجوانب التكنولوجية ونحن نبذل الجهد في هذا الامر بالاخص عبر الاستخبارات
ورغم حديث وسائل الاعلام الاسرائيلية عن نجاح هذه المناورة في اعتراض كافة الصواريخ فإنها اعتبرت ان هذه مجرد تجربة فرضية وأن هذه المهمة ستكون صعبة للغاية عند مواجهة الواقع 6/8/2008 | | | |
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Originally Posted by J_Raad1450 What would you recommend Lebanon to do? | Negotiate with Israel just like your hero in Syria is doing!
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Originally Posted by superduper703 Put the entire resistance command under the Lebanese Army command. We protect our soil from Israel, but the decision to make war or peace will rest with the State.
Quite simple, really, but it won't happen. I know it, you know it. | What difference does it make ? Israel will still attack us if we get anti-aircraft missiles if they were under HA or Lebanese Army, I think you should be happy that HA is building an AA defense system, this will limit the destruction significantly in the next war if it ever happens . | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Kasparov For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by superduper703 Put the entire resistance command under the Lebanese Army command. We protect our soil from Israel, but the decision to make war or peace will rest with the State.
Quite simple, really, but it won't happen. I know it, you know it. | ...and this will protect Lebanon from a potential Israeli aggression...?? | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101 Negotiate with Israel just like your hero in Syria is doing!
Why destroy all of Lebanon to save Shebaa when it can be saved diplomatically!?! | Go save it diplomatically, what has been stopping you for the last 30 years ? | | | | | The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Kasparov For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by J_Raad1450 ...and this will protect Lebanon from a potential Israeli aggression...?? | Yes. HA is considered a terrorist organization by Israel, the United States, and other countries. Military action against HA is considered legitimate self-defense and will be tolerated (as evidenced by the war of July 2006). Military action against the Lebanese Republic, while possible, is considered a declaration of war against a sovereign state and will be met with a different response from the international community. | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to superduper703 For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Hezbollah rocket force Hezbollah claims to have an arsenal of at least 33,000 rockets. Katyusha rockets were the main offensive weapons used by Hezbollah in the 2006 Lebanon War in which it fired some 3,970 rockets into Israel from southern Lebanon. Hezbollah's rocket force Rocket (Hezbollah designation) Diameter (mm) Range (km) Warhead (kg) KatyushaBM-21 122 20 21 BM-27 220 40 100 Fajr-3 230 45 45 Shahin I (Ra'ad 1)33313190 Shahin 2 333 29 190 Fajr-5 (Khaibar-1) 333 75 90 Fateh-110 170 200 +500 Arash (rocket) 122 20 18 Oghab (rocket) 230 45 70 Zelzal-2 610 100-400 600
Short range The main arsenal of Hezbollah's rocket force are the some 13,000 Katyusha rockets, including the 122mm BM-21 rockets which have a range of 25km. Hezbollah is also believed to have fired Shahin I missile which was described as a Ra'ad 1 missile by Hezbollah's TV station and has a range of 13km. At least some of the rockets appear to have been modified to improve their effectiveness ; Human Rights Wanderers reported that the rocket that killed eight people at Haifa's main railway depot on July 16, 2006 had been packed with metal ball bearings which acted as lethal shrapnel. Another rocket, filled with ball bearings, killed 12 Israeli reservists on August 6 Fajr rockets Hezbollah also possesses longer range rockets, namely the Fajr-3 and Fajr-5 rockets which have a range of 45 or 75km respectively; both missiles have been fired into Israel in the current conflict. It was reported that in 2006 Israel Defense Forces (IDF) believed that Hezbollah had some 100 Fajr rockets. Another document reduces the estimate to several dozens rockets. On August 2, 2006, a Fajr rocket, which Hezbollah called Khaibar-1, landed near the town of Beit Shean, Israel, which is 42 miles south of the Lebanese border. Fadjr rockets are normally fired on tank-mounted multiple launch systems. Before 2000, the rockets delivered to Hezbollah were believed to have come individually and to be fired from improvised missile launchers. The launching crew could fire the rockets remotely to avoid enemy's counter-battery fire. In early 2001, it became known that Hezbollah had deployed a belt of mobile multi-barreled rocket launchers and truck-mounted missiles along Israel’s northern border in preparation of a conflict with Israel. Zelzal-2 rockets Hezbollah is also believed by some analysts to have the more potent Zelzal-2 which has a claimed range of 200-400km but with realistic range estimated at 100km. The Iranian-built missile could reach Tel Aviv from southern Lebanon. The missile can be fitted with a 600kg high-explosive warhead and has a solid fuel system that allows it to be easily transported and prepared for firing. Although these are unguided missiles, they could cause serious damages if used on urban areas. The rockets could be used with chemical or conventional warheads. A report by Agence France Presse estimates a stockpile of 30 missiles of the Zelzal type Anti-aircraft For air defence, Hezbollah possesses some anti-aircraft weapons, including the ZU-23 artillery and man-portable shoulder-fired SA-7 and SA-18surface-to-air missile (SAM). Jane's Defence Weekly reported that Iran has supplied QW-1 Vanguard shoulder-launched SAMs and Shahab Sagheb . derived from the chinese FM-90 to Hezbollah Anti-ship missile On 14 July2006, Hezbollah forces fired, what was reported to be an Iranian-made C-701 electropticaly-guided anti-ship missile, at the Israeli corvette INS Hanit, killing four sailors and inflicting substantial damage. A second missile sunk a Cambodian vessel crewed by Egyptian sailors, although no deaths were reported. The Israeli military believes that Iranian advisers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) were present at the launch during the attack. Iran has denied involvement in the incident. Anti-tank missile According to various reports, Hezbollah is armed with some anti-tank guided missiles. Namely the Russian-made AT-3 Sagger, AT-4 Spigot, AT-5 Spandrel 'Konkurs', AT-13 Saxhorn-2 'Metis-M', АТ-14 Spriggan 'Kornet'; Iranian-made Ra'ad (version of AT-3 Sagger), Towsan (version of AT-5 Spandrel), Toophan (version of BGM-71 TOW); and European-made MILAN missiles. These weapons have been used against IDF soldiers, causing much of the deaths during the 2006 Lebanon War. A small number of Saeghe-2s (Iranian-made version of M47 Dragon) were also used in the war Unmanned aerial vehicle Iran has supplied Hezbollah with Mohajer-4Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV's). These have flown successfully into Israeli airspace in November 2004 and April 2005. Besides being used for reconnaissance and for psychological impact, Hezbollah has also claimed that it can arm the aircraft with explosives. During the 2006 Lebanon War three UAV's were deployed. On 7 August, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) shot down a Mirsad-1 off the Israeli coast. A Hezbollah UAV was downed just before the ceasefire, in the evening of August 13, 2006. Another UAV launched that day crashed near Tyre, most probably because of a technical problem. Mirsad-1 is reported to be Hezbollah's version of the Iranian Mohager 4 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by superduper703 Yes. HA is considered a terrorist organization by Israel, the United States, and other countries. Military action against HA is considered legitimate self-defense and will be tolerated (as evidenced by the war of July 2006). Military action against the Lebanese Republic, while possible, is considered a declaration of war against a sovereign state and will be met with a different response from the international community. | What different response from the international community ---- Oh bad boy don't do this again or else ---- | | | | | Registered Member
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So khalass, there is a general consensus now that Shebaa is Lebanese?
Cus last time i checked, many were doubting this fact during the National Dialogue ta2 7anak.. | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to Tayyar Keserwen For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by superduper703 Yes. HA is considered a terrorist organization by Israel, the United States, and other countries. Military action against HA is considered legitimate self-defense and will be tolerated (as evidenced by the war of July 2006). Military action against the Lebanese Republic, while possible, is considered a declaration of war against a sovereign state and will be met with a different response from the international community. |
Your post is laughbale the least, with all due respect
something like Israel Vs the Palestinians...I understand you don't want HA to be armed..you got to come up with better reasons... | | | |  | | | Tags | assassination, chief, guard, hassan, hezbollah, imad, implied, integrated, islamic, meir, military, militia, militiamen, mossad, moughnieh, nassrallah, national, officially, protector, resistance, sayyed, shiites, speech, system  | |
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