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[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Militant

If so, dont you think that the rest of lebanese should have a share in this resistance?

rather than restricting it to one party

Your leader has lots of money and can provide the resistance with much more from his country KSA.

If he does that,i'll support his right to have a say in resisting Israel.

Unless he just want to say don't resist,don't fight,Moughamiroun...and all such BS...ect..ect...Tsu2...not serious,not reliable.

But i'm sure that he's not interested in resisting Israel,orelse,he would have provided the LA with something in substance,don't you think?

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Militant

If so, dont you think that the rest of lebanese should have a share in this resistance?

rather than restricting it to one party

Board the ship! Who's stopping you? Just go and say "I'm ready to help".

Originally Posted by Militant

Why should we accept to put the fate of Lebanon in the hand of one party?

Why should we trust them with the fate of our families and future?

Excuse me, but what families and future?

After we're done with the presidential issue, we need to put the weapons on the table and discuss a defensive strategy on which all lebanese agree.

The presidency is not the only problem. It's not what secures the south alone, nor stops Israel from hoverin over every second, nor does it stop them from stealing our resourses.

Originally Posted by Commodore

You always wanted the South to be a playground for Iran.

You kept refusing and giving excuses until the Israeli war forced you to accept.

Huh? :D You heard of the term "hilarious" before? I'm sure you have. Well, that up there is extremely hilarious :D.

About the last line, HA is in the south and stronger than before, just in case you didn't know.

I'm afraid it will be the same with your weapons. No amount of reasoning will be of any use. It will just end up being another Israeli war that convinces you to give them up, with lives lost pointlessly.

And you're going to be on Israel's side? Watch out for your limbs .

Your tone gives me the impression that you consider yourself above the Lebanese state. Maybe we should forget all about electing a President and just send Hassan Nasrallah to Baabda if that's the case.

Nasrallah is not interested in a seat ;). We're preserving that for he who deserves it.

[Aounieh]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

The issue of Hezbullah arms is a matter of principle.

Some believe that the arms are no longer necessary from a pure Lebanese perspective. They believe that in fact today in 2008 the arms are a negative influence on the stability of the borders and Lebanon's ability to create and benefit from a neutral environment to protect itself as the middle east crisis continues to evolve. Some believe that the Shebaa farms are simply an excuse, that the prisoners issue can be resolved over time with other means and with calmer rhetoric much like everyone is dealing with the Syrian prisoners issue. Some have suspicions that Hezbullah's insistence on maintaining its arms doesn't only emanate from its desire to protect itself, in fact it is primarily driven by its desire to use these weapons for a broader regional goal that keeps the prospects of an open front in the south of Lebanon a reality for the benefit of regional players such as Iran, Syria and Hamas. Some believe that Hezbollah's weapons, may very well be used at some point in time for internal reasons, and they believe that political parties should not control militias and have arms that it can leverage politically, and internally, even if it doesn't ever use them. Some believe that Hezbollah is very interested in an Islamic Shiite state that transcends the borders of Lebanon and fear that one day It may use its arms to forward that goal. Some believe that peace and war in their country is an important matter that they should have a say in and are never willing to farm it out to one group, one sect, or one militia. These same people believe that appeasing HA is not the answer. They also believe that going to war with Hezbollah is not the answer either. They believe that isolating HA politically, and dealing with the matter of arms on the basis of strong principles and not on the basis of weak capitulation is the right way forward.

Back in the day GMA used to be one of these people.

Most people arent suggesting disarming by force, they simply do not agree with FPM's self-serving defacto capitulation in the form of a marketing tool - the MOU.

It's not as simple as that. Hezbollah is under constant Israeli aggression and they have prisoners in Israel. They need the weapons. Who will defend HA otherwise?

[Militant]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Your leader has lots of money and can provide the resistance with much more from his country KSA.

If he does that,i'll support his right to have a say in resisting Israel.

Unless he just want to say don't resist,don't fight,Moughamiroun...and all such BS...ect..ect...Tsu2...not serious,not reliable.

But i'm sure that he's not interested in resisting Israel,orelse,he would have provided the LA with something in substance,don't you think?

RH(allah yer7amo w yer7am ayyemo) and SH has legislated the resistance.

RH travelled from one country to another seeking to convince the world that HA is a resistance whose weapons are an internal issue that shuld be dealt with internally through dialogue.

And a similar statement was stated by SH in fron on the white house.

Now if you chose not to trust him or believe him thats your issue.

And regarding your support to whether we have the right to have a say or not in this situation, well, we are not waiting for anybody's support, we are lebanese who have the right to have a say in the countrys fate and in our families fate just as the rest of the lebanese.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Militant

And regarding your support to whether we have the right to have a say or notin this situation, well, we are not waiting for anybody's support, we are lebanese who have the right to have a say in the countrys fate and in our families fate just as the rest of the lebanese.

You are Lebanese.Saad Hariri is not.

Anyway,besides some casual politician talks,where did SH contribute in the resistance effort to earn a saying in it?

The kid did not even buy a bullet to the LA...Wake up dude.

[Commodore]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

And you're going to be on Israel's side? Watch out for your limbs .

If you start another war with Israel, which brings harm upon me, then I will consider you no different than the Israeli, if not a bit worse.

[Militant]

The presidency is not the only problem. It's not what secures the south alone, nor stops Israel from hoverin over every second, nor does it stop them from stealing our resourses.

Yes i know that... and putting lebanons fate in the hands of one party wont help either.

Thats why we should all discuss a new strategy on which we all agree

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Militant

Thats why we should all discuss a new strategy on which we all agree

Excellent,i agree.But are you sure that your side wants that?

[Militant]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

You are Lebanese.Saad Hariri is not.

Anyway,besides some casual politician talks,where did SH contribute in the resistance effort to earn a saying in it?

The kid did not even buy a bullet to the LA...Wake up dude.

Who are you to say SH is not lebanese.

Have some respect to the people who've voted for him and for the rest of his 36 MPs.

Anyway,besides some casual politician talks,where did SH contribute in the resistance effort to earn a saying in it?

AL el Hariri have legislated the resistance

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Commodore

If you start another war with Israel, which brings harm upon me, then I will consider you no different than the Israeli, if not a bit worse.

What if Israel starts another war on Lebanon,which brings harm upon me,then,if you don't defend me since i don't have anymore weapons to do it myself,shall I consider you no different than the Israeli, if not a bit worse?But no...silly me...i would be dead anyway...so what do you care?