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Socio-Economic injustice 19 7.36%
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The bayen wizari is limited by the old one, daw7a agreement and the MoU. All ministers (including the kataebi of Zahle, E. Marouni) of the new government are saying that there is no problem with the bayan wizari.

so ya joseph why are you always looking for problem with your lebanese fellows, while you are in the same time so indulgent with the israelis despite all their massacres
It is not problems I am looking for. Far from it. I want solutions for the most important issue standing in front of Lebanon's progress and future. I am looking for a continuation of the MOU, and its long awaited evolution into specifics. What better than a national unity government with FPM and HA well represented in it to launch such an effort? unless the MOU and all that talk by FPM about it being a first step and we need to build on it, and now we are not in the government so we cant evolve it, and so on was nothing more than BS.
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Abou, The comments were from MP Hassan Khalil, and only reported by Naharnet. I think an MP's statements are worth reading and discussing.
I think the Bayen wizari is important enough and worth discussing especially at the dawn of a new government. I also think that the weapons issue is paramount and one of the main issues of the Lebanese politics of the day. The intersection of these two topics is also an important issue. I appreciate the concern though :)
I already posted to you a sample of "Bayen Wizareh" earlier.That's what you're probably going to get.

Enjoy.
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الأسد: وحده السلام ينزع سلاح حزب اللّه


08/07/2008
لو فيغارو

اكد الرئيس السوري بشار الاسد، ان لقاءه مع الرئيس العماد ميشال سليمان »الذي أعرفه منذ عشرة أعوام، وعلاقتنا طيبة به سينعقد في باريس (على هامش قمة الاتحاد من اجل المتوسط في ١٣ تموز)... والتحضيرات جارية

وقال الاسد في حديثه المنشور اليوم في صحيفة »لو فيغارو«، حول العلاقات السورية اللبنانية »ننتظر تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية لبنانية، للبحث في إقامة سفارتين بين البلدين، ولن تكون هناك مشكلة في ذلك، وقد أعلنت ذلك مرات عديدة في الماضي

وهل سوريا جاهزة للمساعدة في نزع سلاح »حزب الله«؟ »لا أرى في السؤال سوى جزء وحيد من اللوحة.. إذا كنت تتحدث عن الأسلحة والحرب، فيجب ان نذكر الخروقات الإسرائيلية اليومية لجنوب لبنان، وإحتلال إسرائيل المستمر جزءا من الأراضي اللبنانية، والأعمال العدوانية في العقود الأخيرة. لا نستطيع ان نتحدث عن مجموعة مسلحة، عندما نتحدث عن حزب الله أو غيره، من دون ان ننظر إلى اللوحة بأكملها

لكن ما هو الحل؟ يقول الرئيس السوري »يجب التساؤل عن كيفية الحل.. لقد جربنا الكثير منها، وأخفقنا، هناك طريق واحد وحل وحيد: السلام. وعندما يحل السلام، في لبنان وسوريا والأراضي الفلسطينية، لن يعود هناك داع للسلاح
So Assad officially negotiates on behalf of HA. And they insist that they're Lebanese and make their own decisions! what a joke!
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So Assad officially negotiates on behalf of HA. And they insist that they're Lebanese and make their own decisions! what a joke!
da5il ta7liletak. ya khayye we are not lebanese toz fik w bil lebanese taba3ak. mabsout?
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da5il ta7liletak. ya khayye we are not lebanese toz fik w bil lebanese tab3ak. mabsout?
That's a very mature response! The truth hurts... Eh mabsout :) you finally admitted it!
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That's a very mature response! The truth hurts... Eh mabsout :) you finally admitted it!
2aya hurt.

average people like you are not ashraf el nass. we are ashraf al nass.

average people like you abandoned the population during7arb el jabal and then signed Taef, and the population in jabal who trusted them are still waiting to return to their land.

HA defended the lebanese soil lile no one on the whole earth could do. and the population of south lebanon returned home m3azzazine mkarramine

and since you and me have both enjoyed my sentence, i 'll repeat it :

we are not lebanese w toz feik w bikil lebanese taba3ak
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Israel to swap prisoners with Hezbollah Wednesday - Yahoo! News

Israel to swap prisoners with Hezbollah Wednesday

JERUSALEM - The Israeli government said it will swap prisoners with the Lebanese guerrilla group Hezbollah on Wednesday, closing a chapter between the enemies two years after they fought an inconclusive war
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I think that in order for the resistance to survice in the long in run, it must transform from a religiously driven resistance party to a non-conformist, religiously unlabled movement. For when u present such a concempt as Resistance towards foreign invader in a laique and open fashion, alot of people from different sects and religious backgrounds will be open to the idea of joining a movement that has no religious colours and acceptant to all. Such a thing will even diffuse the notion that the resistance wants to enforce a shari3a regime in the country. Even though its a far fetched proposition, i can dream can i? Being a non-muslim theist, i would join in a second if these reforms were to be established.
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I think that in order for the resistance to survice in the long in run, it must transform from a religiously driven resistance party to a non-conformist, religiously unlabled movement. For when u present such a concempt as Resistance towards foreign invader in a laique and open fashion, alot of people from different sects and religious backgrounds will be open to the idea of joining a movement that has no religious colours and acceptant to all. Such a thing will even diffuse the notion that the resistance wants to enforce a shari3a regime in the country. Even though its a far fetched proposition, i can dream can i? Being a non-muslim theist, i would join in a second if these reforms were to be established.
That is an interesting debate. I hope some of HA guys on this forum join in and give us their suggestions.
I’m not sure it’s that easy to transform HA into a secular party because its cohesiveness is religious although its achievements are national and very patriotic.
However, if your dream comes true, it will make it a lot easier on HA to take away the argument from the puppets and profiteer used to scare people unjustifiably.
I’m all for it if it can be done.
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Maybe it's a little late to be commenting on the first post, but what's all this talk about a Palestinian Army under an "Israeli umbrella" moving in to take control of southern Lebanon? There are so many obvious variables in the way of this becoming a reality that it's not even worth discussing.
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