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Let me tell you something guys!

I am from the region of Aley and I know it very well (I've been one of the FPM's committees founders there and worked a lot in that region).

Aley is pretty much like Metn. We can do miracles there. All it needs is a little bit of attention. Why should Metn for example get more attention than Aley from FPM (media-wise and political-wise). I just can't understand!

Why should a lot of FPMers laugh when we say "Aley" like telling us: "are you serious guys? you should be joking..."

We don't need anybody over there! We don't even need "known" figures or activists! All we need is a good incomplete FPM list including candidates from all sects and a little bit of on-ground campaigning and believe me we can do miracles.

We don't need Erslen (I guess Micho Mouawad is better in Zgharta than this person is in Aley!).

The problem is that the FPM founding mass in Aley was completely sect-blinded! They were worse than Geageaists in what relates to that matter! We had a great potential to grow in Druze-majority villages and get to create real social reconciliation over there, but those were not targeted and when I tried, I was looked at like being asked: "are you stupid or what? wa7ad bi ballich yzabbit bayto ba3den bi rou7 3end el tenyin". Eh tfeh w 600 tfeh 3ala hek 3alam eza 3a chkeleton baddo ykoun el tayyar!

Now it's not time to CONSIDER what I am saying here but it's always good to KNOW!

No matter what happens this year in Aley, we have to make the best result we can with what's available now! We need to support our lists fully in order to gain some good momentum to make the real change that we believe in in 2013 or 2017!

Now it's not time to discuss all those issues. It's time to offer full support no matter what!

Let's wait for the coming list (though I'm praying that Mr. Walid Khayrallah is not included in it because that would make of FPM a source of mockery among the region's population and among our activists) and support it no matter what.

We have to make the best results, not for the sake of 2009, but for the sake of 2013 and 2017 at least!
Just a quick question, whats wrong with that khairallah guy?
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Just a quick question, whats wrong with that khairallah guy?
Comrade B. is right ya Hooks, i'm from Alley and i know exactly what Walid khairallah is about, i'd be very surprised if GMA agrees on him being on our list, i'd rather not discuss Mr.Walid on public forums.
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Wlik how come such a person be on FPM's list??????????????????
Chou hal maskhara hay?????????????????
what's wrong with him ???
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i have no clue who khayrallah is.
but here are a few pointers, if there is an objection on this guy, dont just object and say we cant tell you the reasons. just bring your objections out into the open or dont object in public, object only in the circles that know the details.

'i cant tell you why now but he's horrible' is not an acceptable approach.

More importantly, how did you get the impression he's going to be FPM's candidate in Alley?
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i have no clue who khayrallah is.
but here are a few pointers, if there is an objection on this guy, dont just object and say we cant tell you the reasons. just bring your objections out into the open or dont object in public, object only in the circles that know the details.

'i cant tell you why now but he's horrible' is not an acceptable approach.

More importantly, how did you get the impression he's going to be FPM's candidate in Alley?
beside his official statement
i read an article on tayyar.org men shi 3 days aw 2 , he declared eno he's a candidate w ken 7ader 3imad moukarzel (tayyar ka7aleh) , and one from HA and one from wi2am wahab's party w marwan abou fadel and all opposition in 3aley
so he's gona be on our list that's for sure
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I don't want to go public on the issue. I said it's not time to "discuss" what I will be saying but it's always good to "know".

For the moment, we will have a list to support no matter what...
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Let me tell you something guys!

I am from the region of Aley and I know it very well (I've been one of the FPM's committees founders there and worked a lot in that region).

Aley is pretty much like Metn. We can do miracles there. All it needs is a little bit of attention. Why should Metn for example get more attention than Aley from FPM (media-wise and political-wise). I just can't understand!

Why should a lot of FPMers laugh when we say "Aley" like telling us: "are you serious guys? you should be joking..."

We don't need anybody over there! We don't even need "known" figures or activists! All we need is a good incomplete FPM list including candidates from all sects and a little bit of on-ground campaigning and believe me we can do miracles.

We don't need Erslen (I guess Micho Mouawad is better in Zgharta than this person is in Aley!).

The problem is that the FPM founding mass in Aley was completely sect-blinded! They were worse than Geageaists in what relates to that matter! We had a great potential to grow in Druze-majority villages and get to create real social reconciliation over there, but those were not targeted and when I tried, I was looked at like being asked: "are you stupid or what? wa7ad bi ballich yzabbit bayto ba3den bi rou7 3end el tenyin". Eh tfeh w 600 tfeh 3ala hek 3alam eza 3a chkeleton baddo ykoun el tayyar!

Now it's not time to CONSIDER what I am saying here but it's always good to KNOW!

No matter what happens this year in Aley, we have to make the best result we can with what's available now! We need to support our lists fully in order to gain some good momentum to make the real change that we believe in in 2013 or 2017!


We have to make the best results, not for the sake of 2009, but for the sake of 2013 and 2017 at least!
This is a very true statement.. I've encountered many FPMers from aley
especially from ke7eleh and they are extremelysectarian. Ke7eleh is pure
FPM and still looks very isolated socially from the surrounding villages.
These people arent over what happened during
the civil war and have a lot of hatred towards the druze for their actions prior and
after october 13 1990. I do feel for them as each family has at least one
martyr from the army and their women are still wearing black. They are in
constant fear and this is a real social crisis. I hope we didnt sink too deep in
the well of dirty lebanese politics and tackle the main issues we are facing
starting from the mentality of some FPMers,we have to think about the
future as you said.
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Will Wahhab be on FPM's list ?
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of course we will loose 3aley ... laana SG hajjar 50% of the christians there.. walaw... wou halak fek ydefi3 3an hkoukna ,,,, shou hal fous....
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Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam View Post
Let me tell you something guys!

I am from the region of Aley and I know it very well (I've been one of the FPM's committees founders there and worked a lot in that region).

Aley is pretty much like Metn. We can do miracles there. All it needs is a little bit of attention. Why should Metn for example get more attention than Aley from FPM (media-wise and political-wise). I just can't understand!

Why should a lot of FPMers laugh when we say "Aley" like telling us: "are you serious guys? you should be joking..."

We don't need anybody over there! We don't even need "known" figures or activists! All we need is a good incomplete FPM list including candidates from all sects and a little bit of on-ground campaigning and believe me we can do miracles.

We don't need Erslen (I guess Micho Mouawad is better in Zgharta than this person is in Aley!).

The problem is that the FPM founding mass in Aley was completely sect-blinded! They were worse than Geageaists in what relates to that matter! We had a great potential to grow in Druze-majority villages and get to create real social reconciliation over there, but those were not targeted and when I tried, I was looked at like being asked: "are you stupid or what? wa7ad bi ballich yzabbit bayto ba3den bi rou7 3end el tenyin". Eh tfeh w 600 tfeh 3ala hek 3alam eza 3a chkeleton baddo ykoun el tayyar!

Now it's not time to CONSIDER what I am saying here but it's always good to KNOW!

No matter what happens this year in Aley, we have to make the best result we can with what's available now! We need to support our lists fully in order to gain some good momentum to make the real change that we believe in in 2013 or 2017!

Now it's not time to discuss all those issues. It's time to offer full support no matter what!

Let's wait for the coming list (though I'm praying that Mr. Walid Khayrallah is not included in it because that would make of FPM a source of mockery among the region's population and among our activists) and support it no matter what.

We have to make the best results, not for the sake of 2009, but for the sake of 2013 and 2017 at least!

What's wrong with Erslan and how did you conclude that Micho Nido is better in Zgharta than he is in Aley?

You called him "this person" which points to a certain animosity towards him.Is that a wide feeling among FPMers in there?
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