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YOUCHKA, thank you for your reply to AHIRAM. In fact, I wasn't online and your reply was just what I wanted to say!! Syria became (or was always) their complex!! What about dealing with the USA and Israël?? What about welcoming RICE and BLAIR who refused the cease-fire? What was the point? I don't know!!!!
So, did you want the government to bash blair, rice and the whole west (whose israel existence, protection and future decides their foreign policies)?
What would be the outcome in confronting the superpowers? I leave it to you.
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So, did you want the government to bash blair, rice and the whole west (whose israel existence, protection and future decides their foreign policies)?
What would be the outcome in confronting the superpowers? I leave it to you.

When the POWERFUL countries decide to make you live on KNEES just to make you a total servant, I don't think it would be good to resign!! I'm sorry to tell you that I don't care about anybody when it comes to MY dignity!! Why were we opposing Syria's occupation?? Just because they made from our country a little state governed by its powerful men!! Where were the Americans!! Green-Light to Syria! No?? How could Bush sleep?? Sorry!! But I'm not as good as you in analysis!! But do you think that we should welcome RICE as a Savour while the White-House gave a green-Light to Syria for (30) years and to Israël (years ago) to attack us!! Do you think that we should welcome Bolton when he said that our souls are less important than israeli ones? Do you think that we should welcome Blair while he refused the cease-fire to avoid the souls loss???

Sorry Jiugiusti!! I'm very sorry to tell you that I refuse to resign in front of anybody even if it was a SUPER POWER!! I don't care what would be the outcome!! I already know what is the outcome by dealing with them and I don't accept!! Aren't we equal in GOD's eye?? Aren't we GOD's sons and daughters?? No one dare to humiliate a King's kids!!

Further more, I'd better die UP than live on my knees!! You may not have the same feeling! You may accept to let OTHERS get in your stuff!! But it wouldn't be FREEDOM, it would be resigning by choice!!

Regards!!
I know that YOU love Lebanon, but don't let the actual WINDS take you where the Others want you to go!!
Then, you'll feel what happened, still happen and forever will happen to that MAN called Michel AOUN!!
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Yes I agree with you, most of these people are trying to rise again, associating themselves to GMA. But I haven't seen GMA let's say defending Wahab, Kandil...

YES A LOT OF THEM ARE TRYING TO RISE, HOPE TO SEE GMA ALSO POINTING THEIR WEEKNESS, AND PREVIOUS CORRUPTION.

First of all the pro-syrian you are saying? Let's say GMA allied with Joumblatt would you have said that he made alliances with non pro-syrian.

I DO NOT LIKE TO SEE GMA MAKING ALLIANCES WITH ANY BODY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE & PARTIES RUNNING AFTER GMA, REMOVING THEIR DESTRUCTIVE BELIEFS AND FOLLOWING HIS BELIEFS THAT WERE ALL THE TIME POSTED FROM FRANCE

If you were as you are claiming behind FPM for the past 15 years then you would know that ALL of them somehow worked and allied with Syria.

WE PUSHED, FORCED, PREACHED PEOPLE AND PARTIES NOT TO BE PRO-SYRIANS, AND NOT TO WORK WITH THEM AND WHEN WE WERE IN DOWNTOWN ON 14 MARCH, THEY WERE THERE WITH US ASKING SYRIA TO LEAVE. OTHERS ON 8 MARCH WERE HAILING SYRIAN ACCOMPISHMENT IN LEBANON. GMA IS ALLYING WITH THEM NOW???????? WHY??????/ TACTICAL????????


So please let's not go into saying this is pro and this is anti-syria.


IT IS NOT ME WHO INVENTED THIS WORD, PRO-SYRIAN AND STILL DECLARING THEMSELVED PRO-SYRIAN IN LEBANON (AL KHAT EL SOURRY).

As for surviving the boycott, GMA didn't really need any of these alliances to survive anything. Remember, he had the people during these elections. Let's look at his election alliances one by one. In Zahle, he allied with Skaff who is considered by the majority of the Christians in Zahle as their leader and they love him. Skaff has always been a good guy and only got a bit close to the Syrian regime during the past 2 years (rustom regime) so again he did a bit of relationships with Syria but compared to others houwe dahha. plus everyone can confirm in Zahle that he is an edame and never stole a penny from the people nor did he make any profit from teh Syrians. Now for the results in Zahle, it is true that the alliance was a success and both GMA and Skaff strengthened each other.

In Metn, GMA allied with Murr. As you and I know, Murr also was one of the ones who were close to the syrian regime and probably benefited from it. However although I believe that Murr has given us a lot of votes, I think that by himself, GMA could have also done a lot in metn, maybe 2 deputees less if any that's it.

For the North, GMA allied with Franjieh. We all know that Franjieh is a friend of the syrian ruling family. I also agree with you that he probably benefited from them, but unlike others he also benefited his region and mainly the christians and actually noon-christians living in it. So i am not saying that he is 100% clean, but at least he gave the people a lot instead of only steeling as all did. Now as you also know the whole list lost, and thus, this alliance didn;t actually give any physical benefit to GMA.

HE COULD HAVE SEPARATED HIMSELF FROM 14 MARCH & 8 MARCH, AND CREATED OR ESTABLISHED A NEW LINE AND NOT ABIDING BY ANY. IN FRANCE HE WAS STRONGGER THAN ALL BECAUSE HE DID NOT ASSOCIATE HIMSELF WITH ANY.

Now by saying of course no means that you still believe taht GMA is a patriot taht would never sell his country or his people.

I SAID THAT HIS TACTICS ARE WRONG AND NOT HIS HONESTY. YES I BELIEVE HE IS HONEST BUT IS BEING FOULED BY THE DEVIL "HA"

Again GMA didn't need anyone to survive, he survives through people, through his honesty and integrity.

LET HIM LEAVE HIS ALLIANCE WITH HA

You know I had some talks with Syrian people. They see in GMA an honest, patriot man. they admit that Syria was totally wrongful in hat it did to lebanon, but then they admit that GMA is a courageous man who knows when to oppose and when to halt the attacks.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT SYRIAN REGRETS WHAT THEY DID TO LEBANON?? IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY......... DO NOT TRUST THEM.

So Ahiram tell me, if GMA attacks day and night Syria who is in Syria, wouldn't you find it cowardish? I mean showing his muscles in front of the bear when the bear is dead, not that courageous don;t you agree?
Now if people want to put up his picture in Syria, well I have no problem with that. Do you have any problem with the syrian people? I don't. So to me, a person whose ennemies respect is really something.

WHO WANTS GMA TO ATTACK SYRIA? WHO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?
BUT ON THE CONTRARY, HE IS ALLYING WITH PRO-SYRIANS WHO HAIL THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF SYRIA IN LABANON. LISTEN TO HN SPEECHED ON THIS ISSUE
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I can't tell about what HA is planning. However, GMA personally told me that he trusts them and I believe him because GMA is not a fool nor an idiot nor eben mberih, and none of the schemes pass unnoticed to him. Also as a Christian, I really believe that what GMA did with HA is really un bouchon de securite for the country. Can you imagine for a second if GMA stood with the others against HA and declared war on them? Where would we have been? A civil war? Maybe.

DEAR. DO NOT SUPPOSE. NO ONE WANTS TO DECLARE WAR ON HA, BUT DO NOT ALLY WITH THEM AND PROTECT THEM (POLITICALLY).

Last I want to ask you one thing. You know that GMA even before October 13 got many offers to be a president and a minister and many other important things and he refused. he constantly refused to sell you, Ahiram, for all the benefits he was offered, even in France he got offers and he refused. he fought hard for this country and never lied or cheated on us. Why would you think that after all the sacrifices, he would turn against you and sell you? Do you really think that he would do it?

GMA OF 1988 - 2005 IS NOT THE SAME GMA IN RABIYEH NOW. HE HAS TO DO SOMETHING TO REGAIN HIS SUPPORTERS. I LOST MY CONFIDENCE WITH HIM AS A WISE LEADER(TECTIC) AND NOT AS A TRUELY HONEST MAN.

Finally Ahiram regards to you because just by trying to understand means that you didn't totally give up. And please don't.[/quote]


THE REASON THAT I WROTE WHAT I WROTE, IS THAT I DID NOT TOTALLY GIVE UP
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my reply to you that there's no alliance between FPM and HA, and what's going now is not an alliance.It may happen one day but it's not the case nowadays.When FPM makes an alliance with any party it will be proud to announce that alliance,and it will be ashamed of nothing.Just as it was not ashamed of the MOU and was proud to announce that.
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