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[elio_orange_elio]

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Let me introduce myself first, I am christian who have been behing the FPM for the past fifteen years, but I do not consider myself anymore backing GMA or will back him in any future elections, (Frankly Speaking)

This does not mean that I currently follow anyother group. I like thousands of christian nowadays (Lost)

Can someone tell me why all the currently pro-syrians back GMA now? It is a tactic by them to fight the anti syrians in Labanon now.

Can soneone tell me why GMA has allied with HA & the pro-syrian? It is a tactic by him in order to survive the boycott they have put on him.

Can someone tell me if GMA agree with his alliances and with their look at political life in labanon? Offcourse no. he does not agree and I am sure of that, it is only becuase he was boycott by 14 March, that he decide to ally (Collaborate) with them, thinking that by doing so he will survive? (there was other good choices for him to do or take).

Can someone tell me why pictures of GMA are posted now in Syria? They see him as good opposer to 14 March, they are using him.

Can someone tell me if acts of GMA are tactical or strategical, and also acts of pro-syrian towards GMA, tactical or stratigical? I think both are playing a tactical acts towards the other, and when either reaches what he is looking after, he will leave this ally game. I frankly hope that GMA will first reach his goals from this ally and leave them, rather than they reach their goals and LEAVE HIM.

Regards to hal cha3eb el azeem who suffer from the mistakes of his leaders.
he is really azeem with his patience and tolerance

يا أخي الصديق العماد عون لم يغير سياسته أبجاً هو ولا يزال ضد الإحتلالات إن كانت سوريا أم إسرائيلية . ولكن سوريا إنسحبت من لبنان يا أخي أهل نلحقها إلى الحدود في المصنع ونتظاهر ضدها.
هناك تهميش يا صديقي لماذا لا تنظرون إليه شو العماد عون ما لازم يعمل شغلي وعملي إلا أن يهاجم السوريين فقط عندما يهاجم العماد عون السوريين يكون وطنياً. إذا طالب العماد عون بمحكمة للفاسدين أليس وطنياً وإذا طالب بكشف الجرائو التي حصلت في لبنان أليس وطنياً؟؟؟؟؟

[Youchka]

Dear Ahiram,
I will try to answer each and every point you raised

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Let me introduce myself first, I am christian who have been behing the FPM for the past fifteen years, but I do not consider myself anymore backing GMA or will back him in any future elections, (Frankly Speaking)

This does not mean that I currently follow anyother group. I like thousands of christian nowadays (Lost)

Can someone tell me why all the currently pro-syrians back GMA now? It is a tactic by them to fight the anti syrians in Labanon now.

Yes I agree with you, most of these people are trying to rise again, associating themselves to GMA. But I haven't seen GMA let's say defending Wahab, Kandil...

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Can soneone tell me why GMA has allied with HA & the pro-syrian? It is a tactic by him in order to survive the boycott they have put on him.

First of all the pro-syrian you are saying? Let's say GMA allied with Joumblatt would you have said that he made alliances with non pro-syrian. If you were as you are claiming behind FPM for the past 15 years then you would know that ALL of them somehow worked and allied with Syria. So please let's not go into saying this is pro and this is anti-syria.
As for surviving the boycott, GMA didn't really need any of these alliances to survive anything. Remember, he had the people during these elections. Let's look at his election alliances one by one. In Zahle, he allied with Skaff who is considered by the majority of the Christians in Zahle as their leader and they love him. Skaff has always been a good guy and only got a bit close to the Syrian regime during the past 2 years (rustom regime) so again he did a bit of relationships with Syria but compared to others houwe dahha. plus everyone can confirm in Zahle that he is an edame and never stole a penny from the people nor did he make any profit from teh Syrians. Now for the results in Zahle, it is true that the alliance was a success and both GMA and Skaff strengthened each other.
In Metn, GMA allied with Murr. As you and I know, Murr also was one of the ones who were close to the syrian regime and probably benefited from it. However although I believe that Murr has given us a lot of votes, I think that by himself, GMA could have also done a lot in metn, maybe 2 deputees less if any that's it.
For the North, GMA allied with Franjieh. We all know that Franjieh is a friend of the syrian ruling family. I also agree with you that he probably benefited from them, but unlike others he also benefited his region and mainly the christians and actually noon-christians living in it. So i am not saying that he is 100% clean, but at least he gave the people a lot instead of only steeling as all did. Now as you also know the whole list lost, and thus, this alliance didn;t actually give any physical benefit to GMA.

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Can someone tell me if GMA agree with his alliances and with their look at political life in labanon? Offcourse no.

Now by saying of course no means that you still believe taht GMA is a patriot taht would never sell his country or his people.

Originally Posted by Ahiram

he does not agree and I am sure of that, it is only becuase he was boycott by 14 March, that he decide to ally (Collaborate) with them, thinking that by doing so he will survive? (there was other good choices for him to do or take).

Again GMA didn't need anyone to survive, he survives through people, through his honesty and integrity.

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Can someone tell me why pictures of GMA are posted now in Syria? They see him as good opposer to 14 March, they are using him.

You know I had some talks with Syrian people. They see in GMA an honest, patriot man. they admit that Syria was totally wrongful in hat it did to lebanon, but then they admit that GMA is a courageous man who knows when to oppose and when to halt the attacks.
So Ahiram tell me, if GMA attacks day and night Syria who is in Syria, wouldn't you find it cowardish? I mean showing his muscles in front of the bear when the bear is dead, not that courageous don;t you agree?
Now if people want to put up his picture in Syria, well I have no problem with that. Do you have any problem with the syrian people? I don't. So to me, a person whose ennemies respect is really something.

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Can someone tell me if acts of GMA are tactical or strategical, and also acts of pro-syrian towards GMA, tactical or stratigical? I think both are playing a tactical acts towards the other, and when either reaches what he is looking after, he will leave this ally game. I frankly hope that GMA will first reach his goals from this ally and leave them, rather than they reach their goals and LEAVE HIM.

I can't tell about what HA is planning. However, GMA personally told me that he trusts them and I believe him because GMA is not a fool nor an idiot nor eben mberih, and none of the schemes pass unnoticed to him. Also as a Christian, I really believe that what GMA did with HA is really un bouchon de securite for the country. Can you imagine for a second if GMA stood with the others against HA and declared war on them? Where would we have been? A civil war? Maybe.

Last I want to ask you one thing. You know that GMA even before October 13 got many offers to be a president and a minister and many other important things and he refused. he constantly refused to sell you, Ahiram, for all the benefits he was offered, even in France he got offers and he refused. he fought hard for this country and never lied or cheated on us. Why would you think that after all the sacrifices, he would turn against you and sell you? Do you really think that he would do it?

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Regards to hal cha3eb el azeem who suffer from the mistakes of his leaders.
he is really azeem with his patience and tolerance

Finally Ahiram regards to you because just by trying to understand means that you didn't totally give up. And please don't.

[foreveraoun]

Originally Posted by Ahiram

Let me introduce myself first, I am christian who have been behing the FPM for the past fifteen years, but I do not consider myself anymore backing GMA or will back him in any future elections, (Frankly Speaking)

This does not mean that I currently follow anyother group. I like thousands of christian nowadays (Lost)

Can someone tell me why all the currently pro-syrians back GMA now? It is a tactic by them to fight the anti syrians in Labanon now.

Can soneone tell me why GMA has allied with HA & the pro-syrian? It is a tactic by him in order to survive the boycott they have put on him.

Can someone tell me if GMA agree with his alliances and with their look at political life in labanon? Offcourse no. he does not agree and I am sure of that, it is only becuase he was boycott by 14 March, that he decide to ally (Collaborate) with them, thinking that by doing so he will survive? (there was other good choices for him to do or take).

Can someone tell me why pictures of GMA are posted now in Syria? They see him as good opposer to 14 March, they are using him.

Can someone tell me if acts of GMA are tactical or strategical, and also acts of pro-syrian towards GMA, tactical or stratigical? I think both are playing a tactical acts towards the other, and when either reaches what he is looking after, he will leave this ally game. I frankly hope that GMA will first reach his goals from this ally and leave them, rather than they reach their goals and LEAVE HIM.

Regards to hal cha3eb el azeem who suffer from the mistakes of his leaders.
he is really azeem with his patience and tolerance

Well, it seems you know politics and tactics and strategy more than the rest of all of our current politicians (inclusive GMA). I would like to see you promoting yourself and ur agenda and maybe you will be content of how things are shaping up in our country.

Meanwhile, and as to being FPM and leaving it now.... well, i am happy for you that enlightement finally caught you up and you have seen GMA and FPM to what truly they are (what u have described them for -- Allying with syrians and their puppets). Especially as you have said that you belong to the group of lost christians. lol i liked this one really!!!!!

But the real question that I would like to ask you is why in the past you were FPM or even Pro-FPM and really changed so we can understand what really caused your enlightement and maybe we will be enlightened as well.

And as for FPM is working with syrians puppets, just a reminder of the last 15 years all the current team excluding GMA worked with syrians to his best interest. So, i don't get it what would you like FPM to do, to stand alone and exclude all the rest. That would be logical to you dear friend.....

the only thing i can see that made you really go anti-FPM or something like this, is the stand that GMA took backing HA in the latest israelis invasion. As a first assessement i can tell you that over and over GMA amazes me for his wisdom and true nationality. Irrelevant of how you can analyse this, I would advice you to find a country where all citizens are all christians and request asylum. Shaab lobnan al Azeem includes Shiites and Sunnis and Druze and all the rest.

Cheers.

[ElieCedar]

Originally Posted by jiugiusti

The article is based on a very wong assumption: I can't find any 3azim in "Cha3b loubnan".
If you do, pls enlighten me (I am serious, not sarcastic).

Now, we don't need to go back to the past because, you will find many who consider GMA moves (the two wars, his life in france and poltiical moves) as great while you will find many others who consider them as disastrous.

The problem that the choices he's taken (as well as other christian leaders) are more tactical than strategical and are keeping the christian divided on a project while Hariri/WJ and HA are sharing the cake and laughing at us.

I like to think that the people of Lebanon are Great people who have endured and suffered a lot and some are still suffering today. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for our leaders...no one is excluded. The elected and self-apointed leaders have failed the people. We've been given every opportunity to take control of our country, to improve living conditions......but our leaders fight over crumbs. If we continue bickering amongst ourselves we will go back under the Syrian boots very soon and we wil have no one to blame by our miserable leaders who have betrayed people's trust!!
Wnabka,
Elie

[humble]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

I like to think that the people of Lebanon are Great people who have endured and suffered a lot and some are still suffering today. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for our leaders...no one is excluded. The elected and self-apointed leaders have failed the people. We've been given every opportunity to take control of our country, to improve living conditions......but our leaders fight over crumbs. If we continue bickering amongst ourselves we will go back under the Syrian boots very soon and we wil have no one to blame by our miserable leaders who have betrayed people's trust!!
Wnabka,
Elie

You know, this exactly what is going to happen, un-civil war, Syria and Iran will help the USA is Iraq, then Syria comes back to Lebanon to help stop the un-civil war. What a concept??????

[Kakou]

YOUCHKA, thank you for your reply to AHIRAM. In fact, I wasn't online and your reply was just what I wanted to say!! Syria became (or was always) their complex!! What about dealing with the USA and Israël?? What about welcoming RICE and BLAIR who refused the cease-fire? What was the point? I don't know!!!!

[none]

yesterday we saw live on tv a good exepmle of the kind of people that said : "i was with gma now i m not " money talks money talks dirty cash i want you dirty cash i need more ....

[Kakou]

Originally Posted by none

yesterday we saw live on tv a good exepmle of the kind of people that said : "i was with gma now i m not " money talks money talks dirty cash i want you dirty cash i need more ....

WELL SAID!!

[Zedan]

GOD bless our greatest leader!

People need to understand that nothing happens over night. Everybody needs to understand that GMA has no control over anything in the country at the moment. I think that he is doing more than what he could from his position to steer the country onto the right track.

Everybody must remember that most the current 14 Feb mobsters have had the best friendship with Syria.
Most of the corrupted 14 Feb mob would lead people to believe that after 30 years of Syrian occupation and close friendship with them, they decided to turn patriotic.

Their sudden hate to Syria is not because they simply woke up one day with a sense of patriotism. They are simply Syrians turning against Syrians.
Don't forget that these people cried when Ghazi Kanaan died. This was after their sudden patriotic awakening. (A bit strange hmmm)

GMA has been on a straight line all his time. He always said that he would build up a good relationship with the Syria when they leave Lebanon and he always said that he will always fight the Syrians as long as they are occupying Lebanon. You know what.... He did just that.

We need to see that his alliance with HA was the most beneficial to Lebanon....Please visit the south to see the difference.
GMA did not stop with HA. He has been trying all along to work with all parties and get everybody closer.
Don't forget that he was getting closer to Jounblat, Kataeb and LFs...

We have to all understand that he is working his hardest on fixing this country. This man has never lied and was never ever corrupted. If we can't believe this man I don't know who we could believe.

Should we believe corrupted leaders who simply robbed the country????
Should we believe corrupted leaders who change their minds by the minute???
Should we believe corrupted leaders who were too scared to fight Syria when it was in Lebanon but scream and show muscle after it had gone?
Should we believe corrupted leaders that were too scared to say NO to the renewal of president Lahood’s presidency
Should we believe a crowd that is simply scared of the GMA’s call for investigations into corruption.
Should we believe criminals that simply killed and tortured people through out the Lebanese war?

PEOPLE, wake up and see the truth and don’t be mislead but a bunch of criminals and thieves that lead you to believe that they just had a sudden patriotic awakening. (They simply make me laugh).

Trust GMA…. He was a natural born patriotic that simply wants to clean corruption and build a civilised country.

Whether we like Syria, Iran, France, USA or Tahiti, we are all Lebanese and we need to learn how to live together and build our country together.

This is the GMA’s message that some people are trying to deface…..

[none]

Originally Posted by Kakou

WELL SAID!!

التيار الوطني الحر كشجرة مثمرة تحمل ثماراً كثيرة منها الجيدة جداً ومنها الوسط ومنها الرديئة، وكل ثمرة رديئة لا بد أن تهّر عن هذه الشجرة،
GENERAL MICHEAL AOUN