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KSA is not against HA weapons, KSA is against Iran domination.
Iran domination of what? so is KSA defending Lebanon or is KSA fighting Iran on Lebanese soil? which one is it?...and why is KSA against Iran? call me naive.
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Iran domination of what? so is KSA defending Lebanon or is KSA fighting Iran on Lebanese soil? which one is it?...and why is KSA against Iran? call me naive.
Not really dude, you have the right to ask...

Neither KSA nor IRAN give a d@mn about Lebanon. We are just a negotiation card in their hands..

Seriously man, look at the situation. Where are the Christians standing from all this mess ?

The Christians are divided because of fear. Fear from

-Wilayat Fakih
-Salafist
-Wahabist
-Joumhouriyeh Iraniyeh
-Naturalization of palestinians

etc...

IMOH, Christians are lost and the Patriarch is not helping at all.

The situation is disastrous...
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Not really dude, you have the right to ask...

Neither KSA nor IRAN give a d@mn about Lebanon. We are just a negotiation card in their hands..

Seriously man, look at the situation. Where are the Christians standing from all this mess ?

The Christians are divided because of fear. Fear from

-Wilayat Fakih
-Salafist
-Wahabist
-Joumhouriyeh Iraniyeh
-Naturalization of palestinians

etc...

IMOH, Christians are lost and the Patriarch is not helping at all.

The situation is disastrous...

As a Christian who supports Franjieh-Marada, fear is not part of our equation. We believe the majority of Sunnis are not salafists or wahabists (at the same time, we believe sunni have the right to be anything as long as they accept others). We believe the majority of shiaas don't believe in wilayat fakih and shiaas believe in lebanon....

It is KSA money that wants you to think and elect based on those fears. This is the problem of KSA money. You can either face it or stay in denial.

batrak is surely playing along the "saudi fears" and domination game.
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Try to keep with the title of the thread, and try to answer the meaning of this investment.

Why would a foreign country, invest so much money in another country's elections?
CedarJet, thx for refocusing te discussion. The thread is not about whining or "crying 3a atlal". It is about the appreciation of the amount of money spent in a country like Lebanon and in few of its regions. It is a political discussion not a partisan debate.

To answer your question: it could be that KSA cannot accept the loss of Saad and it views Lebanon as one of its "National Security" files. Another one would be to keep a balance: Sunni with the control of the government and Shi3a with the control of the weapons. Maybe, it wants to restore the status quo of the 1990s until the next round of turmoil whenever the USA wants...

Anyways, 715 millions is nothing, this is like 10 million barrels at 71$ :-)
Yalla each Lebanese is worth 3 barrels of oil loool
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CedarJet, thx for refocusing te discussion. The thread is not about whining or "crying 3a atlal". It is about the appreciation of the amount of money spent in a country like Lebanon and in few of its regions. It is a political discussion not a partisan debate.

To answer your question: it could be that KSA cannot accept the loss of Saad and it views Lebanon as one of its "National Security" files. Another one would be to keep a balance: Sunni with the control of the government and Shi3a with the control of the weapons. Maybe, it wants to restore the status quo of the 1990s until the next round of turmoil whenever the USA wants...

Anyways, 715 millions is nothing, this is like 10 million barrels at 71$ :-)
Yalla each Lebanese is worth 3 barrels of oil loool
I clearly see it as yet another foreign fight on Lebanese soil. For a fight, there must be a prize. People don't just fight for the fun of it, not sane people anyways.

It's clear that saudi has it's allies (u.s. and israel), whereas Iran has it's allies... list is so long, not sure where to start :)

It's also clear that to move the masses on the ground, the game of sunni vs. shiite is the card they are using.

Now, what's the prize if ksa wins the fight, and what is the prize if iran wins.

Either way, I can tell you that us, the Lebanese population will lose.
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KSA is not against HA weapons, KSA is against Iran domination.
And KSA was against Russia in Afghanistan and in Tchechan for the same reason?

KSA is with Pakistan for the same reason?

KSA with Taleban for the same reason?

If you are talking about domination, why KSA does that especially in Lebanon?
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And KSA was against Russia in Afghanistan and in Tchechan for the same reason?

KSA is with Pakistan for the same reason?

KSA with Taleban for the same reason?

If you are talking about domination, why KSA does that especially in Lebanon?
Lebanon is an easy target ruled by secularism.

KSA is supporting Sunnist wherever they are and Iran is focusing on Iraq, Bahrain, Kuwait etc..

Iran is seeking for power and so KSA.

Believe me mate, I do care about no body in Lebanon. I am just living my life outside the sh!t. Looking aroud, I can tell you this country is hopeless...
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Lebanon is an easy target ruled by secularism.

KSA is supporting Sunnist wherever they are and Iran is focusing on Iraq, Bahrain, Kuwait etc..

Iran is seeking for power and so KSA.

Believe me mate, I do care about no body in Lebanon. I am just living my life outside the sh!t. Looking aroud, I can tell you this country is hopeless...
would you agree that saudi "election" money is no good for Lebanon. Yes or no
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would you agree that saudi "election" money is no good for Lebanon. Yes or no
I am as every Lebanese against the electoral money.

Neither KSA nor Iran should fund their allies.
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KSA is not against HA weapons, KSA is against Iran domination.
wrong!!

KSA is against Paestinians going back to their homeland, because if they do, Israel will be the one and only country negatively affected, which will push the Zionist Lobby and therefore the US government to exert pressure on KSA interrests all over the Arab region. this was the deal signed by George Bush Sr.and King Fahd Bin Abdul Aziz of KSA back in the early 90's. there is no such thing about KSA being afraid from Iranian power in the region.

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