50 years passed by and still we did not get it

[Anny]

Originally Posted by lebanon4ever

The president agreed on the deal,so he doesn't care even if we gave him all of our deputees.

yesterday, I was listenning of the debate in Marcel Ghanem show on LBC with Alain Aoun and the other Shia guy from FM and Alain was talking about giving a permanent power to every single president that will come later. In the christian street, if one day tetwiin was more clear that it was soon to happen, at least the christians will elect a better representative than someone like sleiman who is payed to represent the tetwiin for them.

[Frisbeetarian]

Ma te3tal hammon,I assure you they have their methods and techniques even if they wil have to use blood.

Dude come on be reasonable. How is it even marginally reasonable for them to even consider tawtin when there is a million+ shiaas standing in their way, unified under one organized leadership and equipped with an army that can squash them to boot. How?

Unless they want civil war, they would force the tawtin. But of course then you can say goodbye to anything called lebanon, sunnis, shiaas, christians, druze...

[Salome]

Originally Posted by Frisbeetarian

Dude come on be reasonable. How is it even marginally reasonable for them to even consider tawtin when there is a million+ shiaas standing in their way, unified under one organized leadership and equipped with an army that can squash them to boot. How?

Unless they want civil war, they would force the tawtin. But of course then you can say goodbye to anything called lebanon, sunnis, shiaas, christians, druze...

voila I see you edited your post, plus Israel is always at handy to help out with the next war...

so million dollar question, when the whole world and a slight Lebanese majority wants tawteen, how do you stop it?

ps: obviously the next "forced" emigration of the christians was part of the game, this is a peaceful way to get rid of them

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Frisbeetarian

And explain to me, how are they going to eliminate the shiaas? Seeing that Christian numbers have been dwindling and their leaderships loosing power as result of the civil war, in that there is indeed concentration to revoke whats left of the little power Christians have in this country, but in contrast Shiaas, and unlike you guyz, are not only unified in their leadership, but are the 2nd biggest if not the biggest sect in Lebanon, have been since the end of the civil war gaining momentum both on the political and social aspects of the country. How do you simply eliminate a sect in heavy incline?

Simple as that, shias dont want tetwiin because they dont want to be a minority against a majority of Sunies in the Middle east. I seriously think the deal under the table between Saudis and Syria is to make something with the Palestinians, I am thinking maybe its attacking them I dont know, I am afraid something is happening but I am not sure the deal is to input a neutralisation, its maybe the contradictions that FPM is not aware of. Why did HA helped Gaza Palestinians you think? And seriously I think it is because they dont want the Palestinians leave Palestine (and Iran is putting alot of money against the tetwin in Lebanon because they dont want a middle east entirily ruled by sunnies, since shias will become a minority and the second after the christians who will be attacked will be shiaas.

[Aoun is rou2yaweh]

lebanon4ever,

I am sorry that you have become an Israeli agent intentionally or unintentionally.
Your are spreading despair and calling for immigration (just like 14 shbat during syrian occupation: face it, Syria will never go out form Lebanon, or Israel is unbeatable!), which is perfectly favorable for the battle of the Israeli.
Even if we are bound to lose, WELL WE ARE GONNA GIVE THEM ONE HELL OF A FIGHT.

Life is wa2fet sharraf and not an endless cycle of eating, sleeping, entertainment.
Our life period on earth should have a meaning, it should move humanity forward, do something positive.
God does not reward those who stay quiet on injustice (like what is happening in Palestine), corruption (Lebanon...), exterminations (during WWII), slavery, etc....
Everyone should do the best he can from his position and we are doing so in the FPM.
If we are truly christians:WE FEAR NOTHING WHEN JUSTICE IS ON OUR SIDE.

Just like Bachir was a resistant, Michel Aoun and Hassan Nasrallah are resistants, we will be resistants and just like they have been fought, we will be fought, we will suffer but we won't be ''wassatiyin'' or ''jeledine'' whose fates at the end in the hands of God are the same.

Halla2 for those who believe there is no God and that Humans are here just for manyakeh, it is best for you to immigrate (or collaborate hek vous aurez la vie douce) :)

[raphaelmax@yahoo.com]

thank god i'm taking the HONG KONG "CHINA" passport next year and i will give up my lebanese passport. when we that you call us outsiders say "MAFI AMAL BI HAL BALAD" you laugh.. I love lebanon but for in order to have a LIFE and FUTURE with KIDS i should forget lebanon i'm finding it very easy... specially when i see ppl are still GHANAM in lebanon. please don't take it personal ...

[Anny]

Originally Posted by raphaelmax@yahoo.com

thank god i'm taking the HONG KONG "CHINA" passport next year and i will give up my lebanese passport. when we that you call us outsiders say "MAFI AMAL BI HAL BALAD" you laugh.. I love lebanon but for in order to have a LIFE and FUTURE with KIDS i should forget lebanon i'm finding it very easy... specially when i see ppl are still GHANAM in lebanon. please don't take it personal ...

See I am against what you just said since you dont have a patriotic spirit and that is what Israel and USA and Saudi and all of them want you to have to forget Lebanon and leave it to them and I wont give up my country like you will. I dont want to say to my kids look we were from Lebanon and now we are from somewhere else. In fact I want my futur kids and grant-kids live and continue their life in Lebanon and for that lets begin to reunite all lebanese citizens. Their leaders are playing with them, all we have to unite us is beginning to be against the governement and by that starting anarchist punk revolutions, seriously if becoming LF is fashion, anarchism is even cooler for little 16 years olds ;)

[lebanon4ever]

Originally Posted by Aoun is rou2yaweh

WELL WE ARE GONNA GIVE THEM ONE HELL OF A FIGHT.

W ba3ed bte7roz ????...Poor those who died in 1975-76 in order to prevent palestinians settlement.

[raphaelmax@yahoo.com]

in canada ha!
patriotic spirit for what? lebanon? let them take it i will live 60 years if i'm lucky i didn't come to this planet to fight for lebanon. i have a life to live :) there's an actuall life out there away from politics and all the lebanese brainwashing ****...

If few wars . uncountable killings and lots more that happened in lebanon and still no luck changing the people i don't think they will ever change anny!!!

good luck trying again and again and again.. and as lebanon4ever said ma ba2a bte7roz....

cheerz

[lebanon4ever]

Originally Posted by Anny

See I am against what you just said since you dont have a patriotic spirit and that is what Israel and USA and Saudi and all of them want you to have to forget Lebanon and leave it to them and I wont give up my country like you will. I dont want to say to my kids look we were from Lebanon and now we are from somewhere else. In fact I want my futur kids and grant-kids live and continue their life in Lebanon and for that lets begin to reunite all lebanese citizens. Their leaders are playing with them, all we have to unite us is beginning to be against the governement and by that starting anarchist punk revolutions, seriously if becoming LF is fashion, anarchism is even cooler for little 16 years olds ;)

Do you know what baba Sanfour (Schtromph) used to say:"SAnfirou bi 7ayatikom"...

My friend ,what will you tell to your child 20/25 years later when he will come and tell you:Mom/Dad,i cannot find a job because XYZ is preferred over me since he is ......

As about reuniting lebanese,well it is a long gone dream...
I agree someone should be patriotic but someone should also be wise.Signals are given to us and still we are blind and saying:we want to fight!!we should be patriotic!!!blablabla...
Someone learns from his predecessors mistakes