50 years passed by and still we did not get it

[Salome]

Originally Posted by vicking

Tawtin will never happen. If it happens one day it will automaticly produce the division of Lebanon (partition).

Dont worry, it will never ever happen

Why division? Sunni will be the majority, secured for the next decades if not hundreds to come.

Anybody reasonably here thinks the Palestinians have somewhere to go? Nobody is willing to accept them, you can not put them out by force...pretty much seems they are here to stay. Question is would they melt in peacefully or hell will break out?

[IA64]

Originally Posted by Anny

Even if you want tawtin, I refuse it and I and other like me wont let it happen, so keep dreamen. Palestinian story can end by ship them in somewhere else like Saudié or even back to Israel where they really belong, let the jews deal with their own problems not lebanese!

Excuse me but do I sound like I want it? You are completely wrong dear...

[lebanon4ever]

50 years passed by and we did not get it yet.People,towteen is something that will happen sooner or later.
Why do you think that they did not want a powerfull chrisitn leader?why do you think they assassinated BAchir in 1982,Dany chamoun in 1990,why do you think they overthrown GMA in 1990 and now..
Look after the end of the elections,how everybody reconciled and became like honeymooners.Simply because they want to aleniate chrisitians and turn them into small tribes which are fighting each other.
Neither FM,nor PSP care about the debts such as we are doing.
Guys believe me,debts will only affect a minority of the lebanese people since this minority have their own way of living style and cannot afford to live in miserable circumstances.
By putting pressures on this minority,it will leave sooner or later.That's why,it is their benefits to keep the people who brought debts into power.
So let us not fool themselves and say we will change and make reforms,the plan is already done and it is a matter of time (may be 10-15-30 years) before the settlement will be finalized.
And believe me,there is nothing we can do in this regards.

[Revolution1989]

Originally Posted by lebanon4ever

50 years passed by and we did not get it yet.People,towteen is something that will happen sooner or later.
Why do you think that they did not want a powerfull chrisitn leader?why do you think they assassinated BAchir in 1982,Dany chamoun in 1990,why do you think they overthrown GMA in 1990 and now..
Look after the end of the elections,how everybody reconciled and became like honeymooners.
[...]
So let us not fool themselves and say we will change and make reforms,the plan is already done and it is a matter of time (may be 10-15-30 years) before the settlement will be finalized.
And believe me,there is nothing we can do in this regards.

Actually, you can also look at some of the targetted assassination post Hariri (Gebran Tueni, Pierre Gemayel)...

But anyway, you don't have a European / American / Canadian / Australian passport already? What? Are you crazy?

[lebanon4ever]

Originally Posted by Revolution1989

Actually, you can also look at some of the targetted assassination post Hariri (Gebran Tueni, Pierre Gemayel)...

But anyway, you don't have a European / American / Canadian / Australian passport already? What? Are you crazy?

I will surely get one soon.Unfortunately,i was hoping for something.However it wont be realized.So eventhough,I will manage to have a good life (may be towtween wont happen as I am alive),however it will happen during my kids or grandsons era and i don't want to drag them into misery.

[IA64]

Originally Posted by lebanon4ever

50 years passed by and we did not get it yet.People,towteen is something that will happen sooner or later.
Why do you think that they did not want a powerfull chrisitn leader?why do you think they assassinated BAchir in 1982,Dany chamoun in 1990,why do you think they overthrown GMA in 1990 and now..
Look after the end of the elections,how everybody reconciled and became like honeymooners.Simply because they want to aleniate chrisitians and turn them into small tribes which are fighting each other.
Neither FM,nor PSP care about the debts such as we are doing.
Guys believe me,debts will only affect a minority of the lebanese people since this minority have their own way of living style and cannot afford to live in miserable circumstances.
By putting pressures on this minority,it will leave sooner or later.That's why,it is their benefits to keep the people who brought debts into power.
So let us not fool themselves and say we will change and make reforms,the plan is already done and it is a matter of time (may be 10-15-30 years) before the settlement will be finalized.
And believe me,there is nothing we can do in this regards.

Why did they assassinate Hariri? I thought he was with Towtin

[sanfour]

Tawtin has already happened.
what are you going to do about them ?
kick the palestinian civilians out of their houses??!

[lebanon4ever]

Originally Posted by IA64

Why did they assasinate Hariri? I thought he was with Towtin

In order to speed up the process,they need to do something like this.Hariri had some powers before 2005 but not like now.his power doubled.
Can you tell me why???
We were sufferring from syria but not from one sect controling the others such as current situation...
As far as i remember,hariri died,syria out,hariri JR ruled,hariri JR will rule now,Hariri jr will rule in 2013,2017,2021,2025...

It is all well suited and prepared in a designed matter.

[_nad_]

Originally Posted by IA64

Why did they assassinate Hariri? I thought he was with Towtin

Sunni and druze made a shift from pro to anti-syrian in no time. How could this be done in another way, at this speed?
Isolate Hezbollah and push Syira out. To the benefit of ? Isreal...

[lebanon4ever]

Originally Posted by sanfour

Tawtin has already happened.
what are you going to do about them ?
kick the palestinian civilians out of their houses??!

We knew this,however we were hoping for a change to this situation.Now there is nothing we can do and we had to admit it:we saw the light now.