3 Easy Steps to win a Trip to Lebanon, Fully Paid by the Lebanese Forces

[sanabel]

Originally Posted by roch10452

Is it illegal to facilitate the transportations of voters?

Why is Tayyar allowed to do it and not LF?
Dont tell me your not doing it, i can give you names of FPM members calling people here

Until we can vote in our consulats, its our right to travel to lebanon and vote
Stop accusing one side of doing it, we are all doing
Stop accusing one side of buying the votes this way, I am paying my ticket and covering the price for another student each time i vote
We are not offering money for people to change their voting decisions, we are offering a transportation procedure, cheaper and affordable for who wants to travel and vote

Maybe you want all your relatives in Lebanon to immigrate to France or elsewhere then you will vote for Hariri and future mouvement. Ask yourself this question Why Hariri and Saudi Arabia are paying millions of dollars for an election ....

[SISCO]

Anyone knows how the procedure works when they pay you the ticket ?? Someone told me that they take from you a check with the price of the ticket, and if they knew that you didn't vote for them, they take the money.

Is that true ?

If not, i can take a ticket from LF and vote FPM :) !!!

[X]

Originally Posted by SISCO

Anyone knows how the procedure works when they pay you the ticket ?? Someone told me that they take from you a check with the price of the ticket, and if they knew that you didn't vote for them, they take the money.

Is that true ?

If not, i can take a ticket from LF and vote FPM :) !!!

Future Movement used the bar codes on the cars, so i won't be surprised if we see something like this in the elections:

[barid]

Originally Posted by roch10452

Is it illegal to facilitate the transportations of voters?

If you pay the ticket it is called bribery

Why is Tayyar allowed to do it and not LF?
Dont tell me your not doing it, i can give you names of FPM members calling people here

Calling people is not illegal. Paying their ticket is. Please give names of FPM members paying tickets.

Until we can vote in our consulats, its our right to travel to lebanon and vote
Stop accusing one side of doing it, we are all doing
Stop accusing one side of buying the votes this way, I am paying my ticket and covering the price for another student each time i vote
We are not offering money for people to change their voting decisions, we are offering a transportation procedure, cheaper and affordable for who wants to travel and vote

Do you mean you pay the ticket regardless of how a person is going to vote? If a person wants to vote FPM, you give him a ticket?

On a side note, since you find paying is so normal, just ask yourself how the one paying the money is going to get his money back.

First, this money is not coming from LF and you know it. Harriri is paying LF and LF is paying. (and KSA is paying Harriri)

If Harriri is paying 1 Million $, he expects to get his 1 Million back after election + profit. How is it possible? So count the millions and how they are going to be paid back with profit. (And it is not a 10% profit).

[opium]

Everyone in this forum,should submit 2 to 3 fake applications.

[johnnyFPM]

Originally Posted by roch10452

Is it illegal to facilitate the transportations of voters?

Why is Tayyar allowed to do it and not LF?
Dont tell me your not doing it, i can give you names of FPM members calling people here
Until we can vote in our consulats, its our right to travel to lebanon and vote
Stop accusing one side of doing it, we are all doing
Stop accusing one side of buying the votes this way, I am paying my ticket and covering the price for another student each time i vote
We are not offering money for people to change their voting decisions, we are offering a transportation procedure, cheaper and affordable for who wants to travel and vote

With supporters who think in such an unethical way, no doubt their leaders are either thiefs or criminals.

And btw, i'm RPL member (FPM France), who is making phone calls. Believe me, we're very far from offering tickets...

[roch10452]

Originally Posted by barid

If you pay the ticket it is called bribery



Calling people is not illegal. Paying their ticket is. Please give names of FPM members paying tickets.



Do you mean you pay the ticket regardless of how a person is going to vote? If a person wants to vote FPM, you give him a ticket?

On a side note, since you find paying is so normal, just ask yourself how the one paying the money is going to get his money back.

First, this money is not coming from LF and you know it. Harriri is paying LF and LF is paying. (and KSA is paying Harriri)

If Harriri is paying 1 Million $, he expects to get his 1 Million back after election + profit. How is it possible? So count the millions and how they are going to be paid back with profit. (And it is not a 10% profit).

- its bribery when you gain so,ething, the voters a re traveling for 24hours, to vote and come back. those same voters will pay their own ticket when they can afford it, students are expected to do this when they start working, same as i did.

- ask them yourself, Tayyar Touluse, they even offered me a ticket back in 2005, before Aoun decide to go in a different election list then Kataeb, you know, the time when we were working together

- if a person wants to vote FPM, i hope FPM takes care of his transportation

- I am not getting my money back, I payed my share in renting the plane, that is part of my help to Kataeb

- I am talking for my personal experience in Kataeb, I dont know about LF but i suppose they are doing the same, they are also renting planes the same way as we are, sometimes its the same plane too. No the money is comming from my pocket.
I dont see why i should beleive the money isnt comming from the pockets of my Tayyar friends while the money out of my pocket is hariri's
Are tayyar people richer then me?

[Ra3ed]

Originally Posted by roch10452

- its bribery when you gain so,ething, the voters a re traveling for 24hours, to vote and come back. those same voters will pay their own ticket when they can afford it, students are expected to do this when they start working, same as i did.

Definition of Bribery from wikipedia :

[...] The bribe is the gift bestowed to influence the recipient's conduct
It may be any money, good, right in action, property, preferment, privilege, emolument, object of value, advantage or merely a promise or undertaking to induce or influence the action, vote, or influence of a person in an official or public capacity. [...]


gift: ticket to lebanon

recipient: the lebanese voter outside the country

money: ticket was paid with money (unless strida is involved )

privilege: some lebanese will have the privilege while others wont

advantage: some lebanese will have the advantage that other lebanese wont have ...

merely a promise: a promise is taken that the person will vote for a specific candidate

vote: zay ma hiyyeh


And
again
yes it is a bribery when the lebanese are not allowed to vote in the country where they are living .


BTW 10452 m2 before or after radem el ba7er ?

[SISCO]

I was searching for tickets from Paris to Beirut. If i go in May, i can get a MEA ticket for 500 €.
If i go around 7 June, the cheapest ticket is for 850 €.

In a normal year, tickets during June are very cheap ! So i think some planes are already booked.

[Illuminatus]

Sorry to spoil it for you guys, but this is done by LF USA and it is not for this up-coming elections...this database has been going around for at least 8 months to fully form a database for the lebanese forces supporters in USA :)