2009 Election Related Issues

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by fidelio

No i did not.
He might have supported the wrong side in particularly dire straights that shaped a terrible part of our history, but that does not negate the fact that Hussein Al Husseini is a man of principles (that may differ from your or my principles).

Why doesn't he make the Taef documents public if he's a man of principles? Why does he still hide them?

Besides, he is considered an authority on the principles of the opposition in Lebanon.

I join my voice to TK, and ask u to elaborate further if there's not much trouble.

[fidelio]

Originally Posted by Tayyar Keserwen

Care to elaborate Fid?

Thx

Take this for example:

ويستعرض الرئيس الحسيني مسيرة الدولة اللبنانية مع الأنظمة والدساتير منذ ما قبل 1943

، مصراً على وجوب مواكبة التطور من مرحلة إلى أخرى لتحقيق المواطنية والانتماء الكامل للوطن قبل الطائفة والمذهب، وهذا ما كان يجب أن تتمخّض عنه الأحداث والتطورات منذ إقرار وثيقة الطائف التي لم تطبّق كما يجب حتى اليوم، مشيراً إلى أن المجتمعات التي لا تطوّر نفسها في سبيل التقدم تنقسم شيعاً ومللاً وأعراقاً وتخرب كيانها مرتمية في غياهب التخلّف.
ويرى عراب الطائف أن ما نفّذ منه حتى اليوم هو الاتفاق الثلاثي، لا وثيقة الوفاق الوطني، حيث غيّبت مبادئ وقواعد الفصل بين السلطات بسبب الهروب من تحديد عمل كل سلطة بقوانين تشريعية، لا فقط بمراسيم ليس لها قوة الإلزام، ويمكن كل متضرر منها مخالفتها دون محاسبة.
وعبثاً يحاول السياسيون تحقيق الاستقرار بالتفاهمات السياسية التي تتحقق بين المتصارعين والمتنافسين فوق الميثاق والدستور، لأن كل تفاهم غير محكوم بنص يوافق عليه ممثلو الشعب في البرلمان يكون ضد الدستور وإرادةالأمة.

He opposes the original system as it was conceived.

[fidelio]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

Why doesn't he make the Taef documents public if he's a man of principles? Why does he still hide them?

I don't know vego, that's something i would like to see someday.
But were these documents meant to be of public knowledge at first?

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

I join my voice to TK, and ask u to elaborate further if there's not much trouble.

I answered TK before i could see your post, but i might add that Al Husseini does have a booklet of the same title; The principles of the Lebanese opposition, but unfortunately i can't find an online link to anything related to it.
I read it a long time ago, and from what i vaguely recall, he cites the same arguments of abolishing sectarianism in the system and invigorating citizenship.
You can say he's an old version of someone like Nasri Al Sayegh, except he was enrolled in the parliamentary system.

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by Sniper®

Zgharta
Sleiman Frangieh - Estephan Douaihy - Salim Karam
Michel Mawad - Jawad Boulos -

Batroun:
Gebran Bassil - Issam Younes
Boutros Harb - Antoine Zahra
Samer Saadeh
Pierre Hachach

Tripoli:
Rifaat Eid - Abdel Majid el Rafii
Misbah el Ahdab

Bcharreh:
Gebran Tawk
Habib Keyrouz

Donniyeh:
Ahmad Fatfat
Gihad Samad

Koura:
Farid Makary
Aatah Jabbour

Aakar:
Hadi Hbeich
Karim Rassi - Wajih Baarini

Jbeil:
Abbas Hachem
Fares Souaid

Kesserwan:
Neamtallah Abi Nasr - Farid Elias el Khazen
Mansour Bon
Fares Boueiz
Farid Haikal Khazen[/b]

Maten:
Sammy Gemayel - Nassib Lahoud - Sarkis Sarkis
Hagop Pakradonian Ibrahim Kenaan, Ghassan Moukheiber, Edgard Maalouf

Fouad Abou Nader
Elias el Murr

Baabda:
Ramzi Kanj - Ali Ammar - Chakib Kortbawi

Chouf:
Walid Jumblatt - Mohamad Hajjar - Elie Aoun
Mario Aoun
Georges Edwan
Dori Chamooun


Aley:
Akram Chehayeb - Henri Helou
Hikmat Deeb -Talal Arslan

Beyrouth 1:
MassooudAchkar - Nicolas Sehnaoui
Michel Feraoun - Nadim Gemayel - Nayla Tueini
Nazar Najarian

Beyrouth 2:
Ibrahim Chams El Din

Beyrouth 3:
Saad Harriri - Ghenwa Jaloul - Nabil De Freij - Mohamad Kabani - Aammar Houri - Ghazi el Aridi - Bassem el Sabeh -


Saida City:
Ossama Saad - Bahia el Hariri (on the same list mabda2iyan)

Zahrani:
Nabih Berri - Michel Moussa

Sour:
Mohamad Fneish - Hassan Hoballah

Bint Jbeil:
Ayyoub Hmayed

Marjeyoun:
Ali Khalil

Nabatieh
Mohamad Raad

Hasbaya:
Anwar Khalil

Rachaya:
Wael Abou Faoour

Zahleh:
Elias Skaff - Salim Aoun - Hassan Yacoub - Kamil Maalouf - Fouad Turk
Elie el Marouni

West Bekaa:
Robert Ghanem - Jamal Jarah

Baalback el Hermel:
Hussein el Hajj Hassan - Emile Rahme - Ismael Sukarieh - Nouwar El Sahili - Mohamad Takech - Ghazi Zaeter - Ali Mekdad
Hussein Husseini
Albert Mansour
Talal Makdissi
Mohamad Shamas
Ali Moussawi

Who are Sarkis Sarkis and Fouad Turk ? Does anyone have some info about these two ?

[hannaalwassati]

sarkis2 is from qournet al hamra, and he has been spending money there for ages in the area too.
a habitual and steady mp runner
he went and campaignd against us in bye 07 and still we managed to get like 40% in qournet al hamra, where he was supposed to be invincible.
he is willing to pay money, but who cares really about few dollars here and there, when we are facing the billions of filthy dirty money coming our way.
ss la be2ademm wa la be akherrr .
like a big ben and a broken one as well.

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

sarkis2 is from qournet al hamra, and he has been spending money there for ages in the area too.
a habitual and steady mp runner
he went and campaignd against us in bye 07 and still we managed to get like 40% in qournet al hamra, where he was supposed to be invincible.
he is willing to pay money, but who cares really about few dollars here and there, when we are facing the billions of filthy dirty money coming our way.
ss la be2ademm wa la be akherrr .
like a big ben and a broken one as well.

Does he belong to a party or is an independant as this is the trend now in lebanon ?

[OrangeEddy]

I took the liberty to add the number of seats in each caza, based on elnashra.com

Originally Posted by Sniper®

Zgharta : (3) Maronite
Sleiman Frangieh - Estephan Douaihy - Salim Karam
Michel Mawad - Jawad Boulos -

Batroun: (2) Maronite
Gebran Bassil - Issam Younes
Boutros Harb - Antoine Zahra
Samer Saadeh
Pierre Hachach

Tripoli: (5) Sunni, (1) Alawi, (1) Maronite, (1) Greek Orthodox
Rifaat Eid - Abdel Majid el Rafii
Misbah el Ahdab

Bcharreh: (2) Maronite
Gebran Tawk
Habib Keyrouz

Donniyeh: (3) Sunni
Ahmad Fatfat
Gihad Samad

Koura: (3) Greek Orthodox
Farid Makary
Aatah Jabbour

Aakar: (3) Sunni, (1) Alawi, (1) Maronite, (1) Greek Orthodox
Hadi Hbeich
Karim Rassi - Wajih Baarini

Jbeil: (2) Maronite, (1) Shia
Abbas Hachem
Fares Souaid

Kesserwan: (5) Maronite
Neamtallah Abi Nasr - Farid Elias el Khazen
Mansour Bon
Fares Boueiz
Farid Haikal Khazen[/b]

Maten: (5) Maronite, (2) Greek Orthodox, (1) Arm. Orthodox
Sammy Gemayel - Nassib Lahoud - Sarkis Sarkis
Hagop Pakradonian Ibrahim Kenaan, Ghassan Moukheiber, Edgard Maalouf

Fouad Abou Nader
Elias el Murr

Baabda: (3) Maronite, (2) Sunni, (1) Druze
Ramzi Kanj - Ali Ammar - Chakib Kortbawi

Chouf: (3) Maronite, (1) Greek Catholic, (2) Druze, (2) Sunni
Walid Jumblatt - Mohamad Hajjar - Elie Aoun
Mario Aoun
Georges Edwan
Dori Chamooun


Aley: (2) Maronite, (1) Greek Orthodox, (1) Druze
Akram Chehayeb - Henri Helou
Hikmat Deeb -Talal Arslan

Beyrouth 1:(1) Maronite, (1) Greek Orthodox, (1) Greek Catholic, (1) Arm Orthodox, (1) Arm Catholic
MassooudAchkar - Nicolas Sehnaoui
Michel Feraoun - Nadim Gemayel - Nayla Tueini
Nazar Najarian

Beyrouth 2: (2) Arm Orthodox, (1) Sunni, (1) Shia
Ibrahim Chams El Din

Beyrouth 3: (5) Sunni, (1) Shia, (1) Greek Orthodox, (1) Druze, (1) Evangelist, (1) Minorities
Saad Harriri - Ghenwa Jaloul - Nabil De Freij - Mohamad Kabani - Aammar Houri - Ghazi el Aridi - Bassem el Sabeh -


Saida City:(2) Sunni
Ossama Saad - Bahia el Hariri (on the same list mabda2iyan)

Zahrani: (2) Shia, (1) Greek catholic
Nabih Berri - Michel Moussa

Sour: (4) Shia
Mohamad Fneish - Hassan Hoballah

Bint Jbeil:(3) Shia
Ayyoub Hmayed

Marjeyoun: (2) Sunni, (1) Shia, (1) Orthodox, (1) Druze
Ali Khalil
Hasbaya:
Anwar Khalil


Nabatieh (3) Shia
Mohamad Raad



Zahleh:(2) Greek Catholic, (1) Greek Orthodox, (1) Maronite, (1) Arm Orthodox, (1) Sunni, (1) Shia
Elias Skaff - Salim Aoun - Hassan Yacoub - Kamil Maalouf - Fouad Turk
Elie el Marouni

West Bekaa: (2) Sunni, (1) Shia, (1) Druze, (1) Maronite, (1) Greek Orthodox
Robert Ghanem - Jamal Jarah
Rachaya:
Wael Abou Faoour

Baalback el Hermel: (2) Sunni, (6) Shia, (1) Maronite, (1) Greek Catholic
Hussein el Hajj Hassan - Emile Rahme - Ismael Sukarieh - Nouwar El Sahili - Mohamad Takech - Ghazi Zaeter - Ali Mekdad
Hussein Husseini
Albert Mansour
Talal Makdissi
Mohamad Shamas
Ali Moussawi

[Placebo]

Hikmat Deeb Will be running in Aley and not in Baabda? why?

[oscard]

frem in keserwan

[Zouxi]

توقع عبدو سعد مدير مركز بيروت للأبحاث والمعلومات، أن تكون النتائج محسومة سلفاً في معظم الدوائر اللبنانية، ولخصها بما يلي:

تفوق واضح وسهل للمعارضة في الجنوب وحتى في جزين بإستثناء صيدا حيث تتفوق الوزيرة بهية الحريري
فوز سهل للحزب التقدمي الإشتراكي في الشوف وعاليه
فوز سهل وصريح للمعارضة اللبنانية في بعبدا كسروان وجبيل
معركة في بيروت الثانية والأولى، وفوز المستقبل في الثالثة
فوز القوات اللبنانية في بشري والمردة في زغرتا والمستقبل في عكار المنية والضنية
فوز سهل للمعارضة في بعلبك الهرمل

كما أوضح سعد، انه من الخطأ قياس الإنتخابات النيابية بالمقارنة مع البلدية، أو على الإنتخابات السابقة، وأوضح ان قوة العماد عون على مستوى لبنان يملك قوة 38 % لتجيير الأصوات