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No, no, of course not. I will believe you. But hold, is this your 2009 platform?

that's one of the things we will be fighting against....we will not come and claim that USA is against naturalization and they are in our country for 60 years without any solution!
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that's one of the things we will be fighting against....we will not come and claim that USA is against naturalization and they are in our country for 60 years without any solution!
So what's your solution? What is the FPM solution?
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Not true, once they become a political party, they can start implementing their program.
So that others can say they achieved something during their mandate.

We know this tactic, they used it when syrians were thrown out.

People like you are not able to differentiate the real work performed during many years and the profit some are making on it... that 's why this time, FPM will wait to have the power to achieve their program (which is accessible for everyone).
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I would conclude you have no idea so far about what will the titles of the "program" be.
Whatever they are, you will find something to criticise. Chiche?
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So that others can say they achieved something during their mandate.
That's the spirit: Let's not help improving our country or else they'll get the credit. I won't comment on that part.
But in fact, this part "Those two together, which reflect what FPM was preaching in 2005, mean much more than a simple change in a ministry, or a public institution, they mean a new way of dealing in politics, a way that doesn't invest on sectarianism, a way that doesn't compromise on principles, a way that refuses violence, a way that advocates liberalism, a way that accepts democracy, a way that understands citizenship, a way that sees the individual not the herd...
Those are the change and reform that were pledged....and not delivered.

" has nothing to do with giving your political opponents credit.

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We know this tactic, they used it when syrians were thrown out.
Yes, history is a good teacher.

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People like you are not able to differentiate the real work performed during many years and the profit some are making on it... that 's why this time, FPM will wait to have the power to achieve their program (which is accessible for everyone).
Bear with people like me.
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He said :
Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to extract the straw from your eye’; when, look! a rafter is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First extract the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to extract the straw from your brother’s eye.

To all Feb14, cut the ****. Start working on your electorate before bashing your opponents. It won't get you anywhere. Haven't you felt the heat yet ? Our past mistakes shall not be repeated. No more last minute preparations. I advise you doing the same. In this country of blinds, the one-eyed FPM remains king.
Lallous, Geagea has no choice but to say that...
Ma3nawiyet the geageaists bil ard..
he first needs to cheer them up before being able to convince the electorate...
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FPMers, 2009 elections will be the biggest battle, the destiny of lebanon will be determined according to the election. This is a known fact for us and for the 14 thugs.
There won't be a serious battle in the areas were HA and AMAL are dominating. and there might not be a tough in the sunni areas.
But ! the strongest battle will be in the christian areas, and it seems that the thugs will put their whole weight there.
Yesterday was talking about how they will vanish the 70%, marwan hmadeh is saying the same today.
Few days ago, Walid joumblat announced that he can't have a political understanding with GMA, but he's trying to get close to HA.
The 14 thugs know approximately how much MPs can HA and AMAL get in 2009, and they cannot change that. They want to keep the majority in their hand, and obviously this can be done only by getting the Christian MPs on their side.
What Geagea & hmadeh said is not a joke, it's their intention.
So it's the right time to stop wasting our efforts on useless issues, and pointless arguments with LF or any other party.
we have to start working hard to win the biggest number of MPs .I see that many of us are careless, or not feeling the warm yet. and i see that others are opening their ears to the rumors and believe them.
All what we see from different kind of defamation and media attack against us is still in its beginning. expect much more from them. they want to finish FPM and GMA. They Can do a big harm to us if we allow them to,unless if we start getting ready from this moment.
FPM political education committee should be active again, and our media have to reconsider its weak behavior . and me, you and all the activists are asked to do what we used to do in the past,getting back the struggle's soul.
its pretty simple just visit the Christian villages and hear the people chat about the FPMers and their allays with the hizb you will know right away the results
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Venom, I do not support Samir Geagea or the LF. I am nevertheless very critical of FPM.

I am an independent.
Why using their propaganda then? Weren't so much years of lies enough to prevent you using those kind of argument (which are known to be purely imaginary) in front of blased people? We would like to hear from your mouth something useful for our country! Not only bashing FPM just to look "different" from the majority...
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its pretty simple just visit the Christian villages and hear the people chat about the FPMers and their allays with the hizb you will know right away the results
why don;t u visit one of the christian villages and hear the people chat about your allies the wahabies, who raped Achrafieh and slit the throats of Lebanese Army soldiers...nad killed many more in Nahr al-Bared....you will have a clearest idea about the results......ghayro?
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Yes, history is a good teacher.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

When syrians were thrown out, the only people who fought their occupation were put aside during the government formation... this is history and you won't be able to change it.

But for you, it's ok. FPM must be put aside, work for others and shut up.

They all fear the wind of change Tayyar can insufflate in the country. The difference will be such that people will ask themselve why our politicians waited so long to take those decisions. That is the danger for those who are leading the country for 18 years!

They are precisely using the propaganda (you seems to know by heart) to divert attention about this fact.
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