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Default Torrent ports in Lebanon - 15th November 2009

It's well known that most lebanese ISPs block torrent ports to reduce the load on their networks & servers and to have better connection delivered to their customers. It's also a known fact that the lebanese infrastructure is not adapted for a high surge of download bandwidth in case torrent ports are unblocked.

- Since most cable providers have no download limit, it suits them to block these ports. But do they do it themselves or are they already blocked by their bandwidth providers? if not, do all cable providers block torrent ports or some don't? if so, who?

- Ogero and its secondary ISPs don't exactly need this limitation as they already have a bandwidth limitation set for each customer. But do they still block torrent ports?

- Is there any way to unblock torrent ports or it's impossible?

- Finally, just out of curiosity, do they block torrent ports in any western country? I ask since most downloaded stuff over torrent engines are illegal, so do they?
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I will answer probably most of questions :-)

Lebanese "unlimited" ISP's have just QoS, and P2P applications in lowest priority. Because of "bandwidth hunger" problem, bandwidth is always full, and P2P applications have much lower available bandwidth than others protocols.

Most of Lebanese ISP's doesn't give real ip's, and even if they give, people use "broadband" routers, which put them also behind NAT. This create fake illusion that torrent ports is blocked.

In Western countries ISP's is buying traffic analyzers (for example Arbor Networks, Cisco NBAR and etc), which allow them also to put P2P to low priority. It mostly depends on ISP, if ISP is located in big city with decent infrastructure, probably he doesn't care about torrents, but if ISP is multinational, if his infrastructure have bandwidth limitations (it doesn't mean it is bad, it can be customers reached cheaper way, or "far" customers, it is difficult to explain in few words) - they will throttle torrents and control whole bandwidth usage.
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tayyeb is that the case for dsl users also ??
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It's well known that most lebanese ISPs block torrent ports to reduce the load on their networks & servers and to have better connection delivered to their customers. It's also a known fact that the lebanese infrastructure is not adapted for a high surge of download bandwidth in case torrent ports are unblocked.

- Since most cable providers have no download limit, it suits them to block these ports. But do they do it themselves or are they already blocked by their bandwidth providers? if not, do all cable providers block torrent ports or some don't? if so, who?

- Ogero and its secondary ISPs don't exactly need this limitation as they already have a bandwidth limitation set for each customer. But do they still block torrent ports?

- Is there any way to unblock torrent ports or it's impossible?

- Finally, just out of curiosity, do they block torrent ports in any western country? I ask since most downloaded stuff over torrent engines are illegal, so do they?
1- Cable providers usually put you behind a firewall or router with uPnP disabled which slows the torrenting as hell. it depends on the network infrastructure and how much bandwidth the

2- Ogero DSL does not block torrent ports, both incoming and outgoing traffic are OK. But anyway who dares torrenting with Ogero

3- What you can do is the same thing I did at work where torrenting was blocked but bandwidth download rate was ~ 10Mbps.. I rent a seedbox for few bucks. It's a Http utorrent GUI on a 100mbps/1000mbps connection somewhere in EU or USA with 20GBs to 1TB diskspace depending on the package you choose. Once the torrent file is downloaded you can acess/download it by Ftp or http.

4- From my experience, Ive traveled to Germany, France, Finland, Portugal and Spain in Europe and haven't found torrents to be blocked nor rapidshare.
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- Since most cable providers have no download limit, it suits them to block these ports. But do they do it themselves or are they already blocked by their bandwidth providers? if not, do all cable providers block torrent ports or some don't? if so, who?
Any Internet provider can put the torrent at lowest priority easily through his router (QoS), so it is some times the local cable internet provider in your area, the main internet provider, or even the administrator of you local network at work or home (for example, I set the torrent at lowest priority at my home using my linksys router).

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- Ogero and its secondary ISPs don't exactly need this limitation as they already have a bandwidth limitation set for each customer. But do they still block torrent ports?
Ogero does not block anything!

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- Is there any way to unblock torrent ports or it's impossible?
We can unblock a website using a proxy, so I do not know if we can do that for a torrent (as I said I do not face such problems, because Ogero does not block anything ).

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- Finally, just out of curiosity, do they block torrent ports in any western country? I ask since most downloaded stuff over torrent engines are illegal, so do they?
In western countries they do not block anything (some times they try to block criminal and hate sites such as child pornography sites, Nazi sites, and Al-Queda sites, but not torrnets).
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Ogero does not block anything!
They block for example SIP. Probably some other other protocols in future.
But sure it is out of subject.
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They block for example SIP. Probably some other other protocols in future.
But sure it is out of subject.
SIP is available again on Ogero DSL. I am making international phone calls from my laptop ( for free )
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I have Ogero DSL and torrent downloads never work. I always try, hoping that the connection would be a little bit faster. But it seems from what i'v read in this thread that torrents are blocked :sad: too bad 3an jad... some files are only downloadable in torrent format..

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for me Torrents work with Ogero,.. but hell with the amount of $$ u gotta pay /GB extra they woudn't care how much you download lol

also SIP works :)
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for me Torrents work with Ogero,.. but hell with the amount of $$ u gotta pay /GB extra they woudn't care how much you download lol

also SIP works :)
Why would it work for you and not me??? :(( does it depend on the area where you live or what??

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