Open Source... An alternative solution

[Mar1K]

This thread is about open source platforms and applications.

Backend and userend platforms and applications.

Novell has launched Sles\Sled 11 few weeks ago. I think techies all over should have a look at SuSE Linux 11 as it's a free platform (unless you would like to purchase maintenance).

SuSE Linux Enterprise Server

SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop

Most of the applications that you would need are already built-in to the operating systems in Sles with better reliability, scalability and uptime.

Best thing is... It's Free

Feedback is appreciated

[Red Phoenix]

Suse went to bed with MS

i use fedora 10 on my laptop with all the open sauce software i can need.
but there's just no good free games :P

but my main desktop system is winxp.

i'm not into that good/evil thing, i'm more into trying to abuse the best of both worlds here haha

[Mar1K]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

Suse went to bed with MS

i use fedora 10 on my laptop with all the open sauce software i can need.
but there's just no good free games :P

but my main desktop system is winxp.

i'm not into that good/evil thing, i'm more into trying to abuse the best of both worlds here haha

Novell knows that they can not dominate the desktop world, so they develop for it. That's why also MS is opening up for Novell server development.
I would suggest you try SuSE 11.
changes occured from kernel level (zmd does not wake up the kernel every 5 mins for no reason, you can see it in /var/log/messages with tail -f) lal application level. Hectic banchee, firefox, all the stuff that u need are updated, even evolution :)

as far as gaming, unfortunately, you have to stick to MS, that is why i still run XP on my gaming desktop.

Sles 11 has go local security policy like microsoft's secpol.msc

check it out, it's awesome

[Osiris]

Well, I really like OpenSuse.

The only think about it is their installation package YAST, I think Ubuntu's installation management tool Synaptic Package Manager is much better..

The enterprise version of SUSE (Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop - SLED) should not be confused with openSUSE, the free, open, community-supported version, which has no direct connection to Novell.

SLED 11 brings all the updates found in openSUSE 11.1 and also includes a number of Novell-developed features like the AppArmor security tool, and some proprietary apps you won't find in your typical open-source Linux distro, such as Adobe's Acrobat Reader. Also the menu in SLED is different than OpenSuse.

Unlike OpenSuse, SLED 11 is NOT free.. You will need to pay a 120$ maintenance fees per year.. or something like that.. hmmm, Window$ anyone?

I would rather stick with OpenSuse or Ubuntu.


On a side note, you can also check Suse Studio, a new concept where you can build your own OS: Welcome - SUSE Studio

[Mar1K]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Well, I really like OpenSuse.

The only think about it is their installation package YAST, I think Ubuntu's installation management tool Synaptic Package Manager is much better..

The enterprise version of SUSE (Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop - SLED) should not be confused with openSUSE, the free, open, community-supported version, which has no direct connection to Novell.

SLED 11 brings all the updates found in openSUSE 11.1 and also includes a number of Novell-developed features like the AppArmor security tool, and some proprietary apps you won't find in your typical open-source Linux distro, such as Adobe's Acrobat Reader. Also the menu in SLED is different than OpenSuse.

Unlike OpenSuse, SLED 11 is NOT free.. You will need to pay a 120$ maintenance fees per year.. or something like that.. hmmm, Window$ anyone?

I would rather stick with OpenSuse or Ubuntu.


On a side note, you can also check Suse Studio, a new concept where you can build your own OS: Welcome - SUSE Studio

Sled has recently became a licensed product, you can still keep the SLED OS without subscribing to maintenance as i believe. OpenSuSE is still a Novell project but maintained by the community. AppArmor has been on SLES since version 10.

SuSE studio rocks, Sydney Novell user groups (snug) last night was all about SuSE 11 and SuSE studio, it became alfa recently too... You can build and download in any form, they use opensuse libraries and repositories to build any form of OS at any format for the download. you can even download virtual machines for vmware how cool is that...

Osiris, you seem like your a Novell person, eDirectory, Groupwise or Netware by any chance? IDM?

Tomorrow is the SLES11 first class at Novell premises in Sydney... the course is being instructed by the person who wrote it. I am looking forward to it.

Btw, i believe Yast is more powerfull than ubuntu especially with software management.

PS: DO NOT USE KDE 4 lol...

Anyone looking for an alternative solution for their infrastructure? something that wont cost them thousands and thousands in licenses?

Any form of Linux can do it for you... We can help you with the config...

[xcoder]

You mean open source as an alternative?
Personally i see open source as a solution, i use Linux ubuntu for personal usage along side with windows XP since web design requires IE-crappy-browser tests.
I am a web designer & developer and use CentOS,redhat and ubuntu on all my servers and PHP as the main server side language for my applications, they are very stable,fast and don't require too much hardware resources, everything is flexible and can be modified to fit your needs and they're free with huge online communities.

[Mar1K]

Originally Posted by xcoder

You mean open source as an alternative?
Personally i see open source as a solution, i use Linux ubuntu for personal usage along side with windows XP since web design requires IE-crappy-browser tests.
I am a web designer & developer and use CentOS,redhat and ubuntu on all my servers and PHP as the main server side language for my applications, they are very stable,fast and don't require too much hardware resources, everything is flexible and can be modified to fit your needs and they're free with huge online communities.

Well, alternative solution for microsoft ppl

So your debhead lol. How are you finding apt? It's one of the best package management systems i've seen. Zypper from Novell is also excellent. have a look at it. unless, if you wanna use a gui, yast software management (yast2 -i) is a perfect GUI tool for package management.

I respect Ubuntu in the desktop world

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Mar1K

Well, alternative solution for microsoft ppl

So your debhead lol. How are you finding apt? It's one of the best package management systems i've seen. Zypper from Novell is also excellent. have a look at it. unless, if you wanna use a gui, yast software management (yast2 -i) is a perfect GUI tool for package management.

I respect Ubuntu in the desktop world

apt is really amazing, a Linux system without apt yum... is really pain in the neck especially for personal usage.
The great thing about Linux especially if you were familiar with command-line is the control-from-everywhere, you just need a shell system like putty of ~400kb and you have full control on your home-pc or servers with the minimal connection speed requirement which is not the case with graphical remote systems, i even have SSH on my n95 mobile.

I believe it would be somehow hard for people coming from the easy world of Microsoft where graphical interface aka "drag and drop" rules to adopt Linux so quickly or open source in general.
Most of those just drop it after a while to go back to MS.

[Mar1K]

Originally Posted by xcoder

apt is really amazing, a Linux system without apt yum... is really pain in the neck especially for personal usage.
The great thing about Linux especially if you were familiar with command-line is the control-from-everywhere, you just need a shell system like putty of ~400kb and you have full control on your home-pc or servers with the minimal connection speed requirement which is not the case with graphical remote systems, i even have SSH on my n95 mobile.

I believe it would be somehow hard for people coming from the easy world of Microsoft where graphical interface aka "drag and drop" rules to adopt Linux so quickly or open source in general.
Most of those just drop it after a while to go back to MS.

If you like Yum or apt, i'd recommend you try software management in suse, no more command prompt (unless you want to, you can run zypper which is very similar to apt).

Having Novell behind SuSE is making it a really powerful tool for desktop/developers and engineers.

PS: Google: Why windows causes stupidity

I will post some useful open source apps tonight "hopefully"

For people using windows server to NAT/bridge. i will also post config for SuSE Firewall with port forwarding and firewall config.

Why do you use windows in your back end? a question for everyone...

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Mar1K

If you like Yum or apt, i'd recommend you try software management in suse, no more command prompt (unless you want to, you can run zypper which is very similar to apt).

Having Novell behind SuSE is making it a really powerful tool for desktop/developers and engineers.

PS: Google: Why windows causes stupidity

I will post some useful open source apps tonight "hopefully"

For people using windows server to NAT/bridge. i will also post config for SuSE Firewall with port forwarding and firewall config.

Why do you use windows in your back end? a question for everyone...

Because one of Linux weak points is Arabic support, so windows is the ideal alternative, also for internet explorer and MS environment testing for my websites especially for CSS and Javascript.