Once you go mac you never go back

[ronny]

Originally Posted by sigma

Mac Pro. Used in every major movie and music production company.
Next time, do your homework and research a bit before getting into a debate.



It's like saying that Linux sucks because it has no anti-spyware. Most of the software you need are pretty much built in. The good thing about OSX is how it handles things. Everything is intuitive!


No, with the possibility of using it. But trust me, aside from the games and a few software (namely AutoCAD), they would never touch a Microsoft operating system ever again.


Apple products? Um, iPod, iPhone, Apple TV and Time Capsule.
Besides, Macs are used in the music and movie industry.
That's not graphic design, now is it?
You're relying on Lebanese conventional wisdom, think of yourself, build up a critical spirit :)

Next up, machine aging. Tell me, friendofzeus, can a PIII run Vista? I know for a fact that a G3 can run Leopard :)

friendofzeus, thoroughly use OSX before getting yourself deeper into this. I have made the switch one year ago, after spending time with XP, Vista and GNU/Linux, I know what I am talking about.

I was tracking every bit of this debate and was trying to agree with you till, you did what you accused him of not doing his research before going thru this debate:

Apple TV: is in the top ten list of worse products of 2007
resource1, resource2, resource3, resource4

iPhone:yes everybody wants to have an iPhone. But once you have it, you play with it for a couple of days then, you get back to your Nokia.
You're gonna tell me that: "it's because you can't use all its features".
I'll reply that it's not the features that exist that are the problem. It's the one that doesn't; who wouldn't want a good camera in his phone? what about a video cam? oh yes there's a software that can take shots per second and convert them into a sequence called a movie. why the hell do i want that? Yes it has the best touch screen features with multi-points, but that's it. If you have an iPhone, try to enable your phone lock and add a password. If you receive a call, you can't reject it. You can just answer it or let it ring till the other side hands out. To me it's a failure and the new 3G toy sucks. It's the same old version with 3G enabled. What a progress!

Here read a little bit about the pros and cons of iPhone: resource1, resource2

So to round it up, the Mac OSX might be the best operating system Apple made so far, yet it lacks the functionality. Apple products look good but when it gets to the OS itself, it's not as effective in all domains as Windows

[sigma]

I was tracking every bit of this debate and was trying to agree with you till, you did what you accused him of not doing his research before going thru this debate: Apple TV: is in the top ten list of worse products of 2007

You skipped the important part :

Originally Posted by sigma

Apple products? Um, iPod, iPhone, Apple TV and Time Capsule.

I referred to Apple TV because he pointed that apple products are only meant for graphic design.

But once you have it, you play with it for a couple of days then, you get back to your Nokia.

who wouldn't want a good camera in his phone? what about a video cam?[ oh yes there's a software that can take shots per second and convert them into a sequence called a movie

Granted. The 2megapixels camera in the iPhone is nowhere near the 5mega pixels you get in the n95 (then again, look at how bulky that phone is). Frankly, I don't need a better camera. If you want to take good pictures you ought to have your digital cam with you. The current quality is acceptable for "regular" photography.

Yes it has the best touch screen features with multi-points, but that's it

You've just reduced a revolutionary technological progress to " that's it "

If you have an iPhone, try to enable your phone lock and add a password. If you receive a call, you can't reject it. You can just answer it or let it ring till the other side hands out

A software glitch, big deal.

It's the same old version with 3G enabled. What a progress!

And you're blaming me for not doing research?
1. It has been subsidized by $200
2. It has a GPS chip
3. New, thinner design
4. They worked on a whole new firmware [2.0]
5. You may now use any headphone (they don't limit you to the thinner iPod ones)
6. Enhanced speakers, better quality.

So where's the whole new App Store in all this?
It hosts thousands of applications (lots of which are Free)
They make the iPhone's potential unlimited :)

Anyway, enough off-topic, we're discussing Macintoshs, not Apple products.

[Frisbeetarian]

OS X cant run various instances of a single program, another basic feature it lacks.

Originally Posted by sigma
Quote:
Because apple products excel at one thing and one thing only, and that is graphic design
Apple products? Um, iPod, iPhone, Apple TV and Time Capsule.
I referred to Apple TV because he pointed that apple products are only meant for graphic design.

And u clearly knew what i was talking about, the computers.

Granted. The 2megapixels camera in the iPhone is nowhere near the 5mega pixels you get in the n95 (then again, look at how bulky that phone is). Frankly, I don't need a better camera. If you want to take good pictures you ought to have your digital cam with you. The current quality is acceptable for "regular" photography.

*Coughs* N82 *Coughs*

You've just reduced a revolutionary technological progress to " that's it "

I wouldnt go too far and call it revolutionary.

[sigma]

OS X cant run various instances of a single program, another basic feature it lacks.

you rarely need to do this, and even if you want to, you can create an alias (shortcut) to run this in the terminal

open -n /Applications/Application.app

Don't let me get started on what Windows can't do :)

*Coughs* N82 *Coughs*

It weighs 1 pound and has a depth of 17.3 mm
the iPhone weighs 0.29 Pounds (3.4 times lighter than the N82) and has a depth of 12.3 mm
oh and their OS is slow.

[Frisbeetarian]

you rarely need to do this, and even if you want to, you can create an alias (shortcut) to run this in the terminal

Don't let me get started on what Windows can't do :)

Please do.

It weighs 1 pound and has a depth of 17.3 mm
the iPhone weighs 0.29 Pounds (3.4 times lighter than the N82) and has a depth of 12.3 mm
oh and their OS is slow.

I can also state all the extra features it has. But im not going to bother, since its off topic.

And btw N82's javascript code is superbly streamlined. Try it out before shooting off claims.

[sigma]

Here's some of the things it lacks :

XP and Vista don't run on relatively old hardware
Updates are a pain in the a##
Installing a program is a chore, in comparison to the dragging and dropping you do on OSX
Running with no anti-virus, and not feeling guilty about it
Run smoothly with no defragmentation, ever.
Uninstalling a software without leaving traces and bits in a "registry" (the registry hasn't been updated in 15 years!)
Run multiple desktops without the need of addtional software
Not crashing often, freezing, BSOD
no constant lagging
Windows Help is useless.
Remembering the the last directory I looked at using any windows program

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I can also state all the extra features it has. But im not going to bother, since its off topic.

Please do.

And btw N82's javascript code is superbly streamlined

Oh come on, Nokia's puny browser is nothing compared to Safari.

Try it out before shooting off claims.

Wow, someone is aggressive. I did not make any claims regarding the N82, apart the fact that it's bulkier than the iPhone. So chill.

[Hierombalos]

for history a G3 cannot run leopard ;)
leopard has dropped support for powerpc's

[Zghertewe]

I did work on a MAC, however until now I am still a PC fan..But you are right a Mac is a powerful computer and I don't deny it at all.

Originally Posted by lebgeneral

HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO WORK ON A MAC?

I personally haven't used anything but a Windows/Dos PC after the ATARI 1040 I bought in the 80s!!!
last winter I've seen the MAC pro of a cousin, I worked a bit on it I loved it..
I decided to buy a MacMini (for 800$) just to try. I plugged it on my LCD TV.And since then I do not use anything at home but the MAC.
I only run my Dell to get some data from it...
I'm now planning to buy a MacBookPro to replace my current HP Laptop..

I just love it!!!
For the first time I have the feeling that the machine is @ my service, and I'm not @the service of my computer. I mean everything is so easy, just plug and play!!! beautiful graphics, nice fonts, amazing graphical programs, great Mac Office suite (fully comptible with windows Office)!!!
it's really nice.
NB. I didn't even intalled XP on my MacMini, but I think I will install it on my MacBookPro since I will throw away my current HP Laptop...

[sigma]

for history a G3 cannot run leopard ;)

True, my bad

leopard has dropped support for powerpc's

Wrong. " Processor must be any Intel, PowerPC G5 or G4 (867 MHz and faster) " – source

[Frisbeetarian]

Here's some of the things it lacks :

XP and Vista don't run on relatively old hardware
Updates are a pain in the a##
Installing a program is a chore, in comparison to the dragging and dropping you do on OSX
Running with no anti-virus, and not feeling guilty about it
Run smoothly with no defragmentation, ever.
Uninstalling a software without leaving traces and bits in a "registry" (the registry hasn't been updated in 15 years!)
Run multiple desktops without the need of addtional software
Not crashing often, freezing, BSOD
no constant lagging
Windows Help is useless.
Remembering the the last directory I looked at using any windows program

Thats why i keep on saying that 3rd party software are what makes windows what it is. The opportunity to make whichever trinket to boost the usability of windows.

For one, u can decently run XP on a PIII, and its ages old.
For two, the updates. U mean the procedure to install them, or the idea of updates
as a whole?
Installing a program is a chore? We are getting lazy
Well when the most targeted platform is Windows, you will certainly be more anxious about viruses. But as i have stated there is an easy way to protect windows from any malware.

Uninstalling a software without leaving traces and bits in a "registry" (the registry hasn't been updated in 15 years!)

Revo

Not crashing often, freezing, BSOD

Agreed.

no constant lagging

Is it Window's fault that u have a poor internet connection?

Basically most of which u stated are defects in the system, and not actual services it lacks.

Run multiple desktops without the need of addtional software

I think its the only thing from which u stated, that is considered a service and that windows lacks.

Please do.

Off topic? U can open a new thread regarding this particular issue though.

Oh come on, Nokia's puny browser is nothing compared to Safari.

Oh well, when u can run a game in the background, with the music player running, and texting a msg at the same time, without any slowdowns, you cant call it "puny".

Wow, someone is aggressive. I did not make any claims regarding the N82, apart the fact that it's bulkier than the iPhone. So chill.

Double standard?