Once you go mac you never go back

[Frisbeetarian]

Bah apple laptops are for rich kids who want to look hip.
The operating system is virus safe, but ur not gonna spend ur whole time working on Adobe applications and other various graphics software. All in all i prefer xp, and when ill get accustomed to Linux itll be my preference, because as a gamer im kinda of stuck with xp. But with the right modifications u can run a pretty decent number of games on unbutu per say.

[sigma]

Bah apple laptops are for rich kids who want to look hip.

Funny :)
Now, seriously..
Be real.

[Frisbeetarian]

Funny :)
Now, seriously..
Be real.

Can u please tell how much these specifications (core 2 duo 2.5ghz, 4gb ram, 640gb hdd, geforce 8600gs, blu-ray drive) would cost me if they were to be slapped on an apple laptop?

[sigma]

I was not denying that their hardware is overpriced, but your statement about Apple laptops being for rich kids is blatantly vague and just sounded silly.

Unlike Microsoft, Apple makes most of its profits on hardware and not software. So why am I paying that much for my box? Ergonomic design, attention to detail and one hell of an operating system.

[Frisbeetarian]

I was not denying that their hardware is overpriced, but your statement about Apple laptops being for rich kids is blatantly vague and just sounded silly.

Unlike Microsoft, Apple makes most of its profits on hardware and not software. So why am I paying that much for my box? Ergonomic design, attention to detail and one hell of
an operating system.

Since u clearly validated that they are overpriced, why would someone buy one if they could get a better deal buying an hp or Toshiba. Unless that someone was rich and just wanted to show off his pricey laptop. We Lebanese are famous for showing off you
know.

Also they are underpowered, u can never really find high end hardware on an apple.

Please, osx lacks most of the minute services that windows offers. Im not saying that its better, as im no windows fan boy, im just saying that there is a reason apple enabled the installation of windows on their platforms.

See what i mean, people with budgets dont buy a laptop for its design, they buy it for its cost/efficiency ratio.

[sigma]

Since u clearly validated that they are overpriced, why would someone buy one if they could get a better deal buying an hp or Toshiba

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So why am I paying that much for my box? Ergonomic design, attention to detail and one hell of an operating system.

Please, osx lacks most of the minute services that windows offers.

Elaborate on this point, give examples.

im just saying that there is a reason apple enabled the installation of windows on their platforms.

Yes, getting people who fear switching to do the switch once and for all. Plus, it gets the gamers.

[Frisbeetarian]

Since u clearly validated that they are overpriced, why would someone buy one if they could get a better deal buying an hp or Toshiba
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So why am I paying that much for my box? Ergonomic design, attention to detail and one hell of an operating system.

Also they are underpowered, u can never really find high end hardware on an apple.

Elaborate on this point, give examples.

A strong percentage of the programs i use on my pc, other than games, have no apple versions. So to me their is alot of limitations when using os x, as the biggest percentage of software releases are released for the windows platform. And im not talking about big programs, i use little trinkets like an instant folder or file finder.

Yes, getting people who fear switching to do the switch once and for all. Plus, it gets the gamers.

So people are switching to apple hardware while using microsoft software? Why downgrade to apple hardware if ur planning on using xp? Seems illogical to me. Why all the high end builds that get tested today, u dont see any of em sporting os x or any other apple products. Why? Because apple products excel at one thing and one thing only, and that is graphic design. I must confess that the code is streamlined in such a way that the initial render of effects on max or maya is faster, and the decode time when encoding video is faster than on windows. Even the render time on after effects leapfrogs over the one on windows. But the machine thats gonna enable you to do that will no doubt cost as much a double as its windows based counter part. Dont know why they are so overpriced since Microsoft os's costs as much as 5 times more than apple os's.

Note: gamers suffer so much in terms of price and upgrades, u will never see a gamer choosing a weaker and more expensive machine to play games on. Unless said OS might yield better fps. Which is something OS X has failed in accomplishing.

[lebgeneral]

Originally Posted by Zghertewe

It depends on the user.

I personally prefer a PC over a Mac.

A PC is more reliable and more friendly user. My laptop runs on Windows Vista business edition and it never gave me any problems. I have a load of engineering softwares from Matlab to Solidworks and they run perfect.

On the other hand, a Mac is a more colorful tool with its powerful graphics.

As far as security and viruses, eventually Mac will be targeted as much as a PC.

HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO WORK ON A MAC?

I personally haven't used anything but a Windows/Dos PC after the ATARI 1040 I bought in the 80s!!!
last winter I've seen the MAC pro of a cousin, I worked a bit on it I loved it..
I decided to buy a MacMini (for 800$) just to try. I plugged it on my LCD TV.And since then I do not use anything at home but the MAC.
I only run my Dell to get some data from it...
I'm now planning to buy a MacBookPro to replace my current HP Laptop..

I just love it!!!
For the first time I have the feeling that the machine is @ my service, and I'm not @the service of my computer. I mean everything is so easy, just plug and play!!! beautiful graphics, nice fonts, amazing graphical programs, great Mac Office suite (fully comptible with windows Office)!!!
it's really nice.
NB. I didn't even intalled XP on my MacMini, but I think I will install it on my MacBookPro since I will throw away my current HP Laptop...

[sigma]

Also they are underpowered, u can never really find high end hardware on an apple.

Mac Pro. Used in every major movie and music production company.
Next time, do your homework and research a bit before getting into a debate.

A strong percentage of the programs i use on my pc, other than games, have no apple versions. So to me their is alot of limitations when using os x

It's like saying that Linux sucks because it has no anti-spyware. Most of the software you need are pretty much built in. The good thing about OSX is how it handles things. Everything is intuitive!

So people are switching to apple hardware while using microsoft software?

No, with the possibility of using it. But trust me, aside from the games and a few software (namely AutoCAD), they would never touch a Microsoft operating system ever again.

Because apple products excel at one thing and one thing only, and that is graphic design

Apple products? Um, iPod, iPhone, Apple TV and Time Capsule.
Besides, Macs are used in the music and movie industry.
That's not graphic design, now is it?
You're relying on Lebanese conventional wisdom, think of yourself, build up a critical spirit :)

Next up, machine aging. Tell me, friendofzeus, can a PIII run Vista? I know for a fact that a G3 can run Leopard :)

friendofzeus, thoroughly use OSX before getting yourself deeper into this. I have made the switch one year ago, after spending time with XP, Vista and GNU/Linux, I know what I am talking about.

[Frisbeetarian]

Mac Pro. Used in every major movie and music production company.
Next time, do your homework and research a bit before getting into a debate.

Because apple products excel at one thing and one thing only, and that is graphic design. I must confess that the code is streamlined in such a way that the initial render of effects on max or maya is faster, and the decode time when encoding video is faster than on windows. Even the render time on after effects leapfrogs over the one on windows. But the machine thats gonna enable you to do that will no doubt cost as much a double as its windows based counter part. Dont know why they are so overpriced since Microsoft os's costs as much as 5 times more than apple os's.

I bet you find a single apple in a software development firm. Or game development studio. Ok i'll add that OS X is streamlined in a way that makes easy working on all things revolving around graphic design and music production. Ever heard of adobe encore? Supposedly a company that develops graphic design tools developed also such a tool, yes sound and music do also fall in the design category.

It's like saying that Linux sucks because it has no anti-spyware. Most of the software you need are pretty much built in. The good thing about OSX is how it handles things. Everything is intuitive!

I never said that OS X nor Linux suck but u do have to give me credit on this point. Most of the programs out there run only on windows, which inhibits OS X's accessibility and features. Yes well u can learn to live without them, but don say that u are better off. The mod community out there is doing a terrific job in implementing upgrades and skin graphs on the rather defunct vista.

No, with the possibility of using it. But trust me, aside from the games and a few software (namely AutoCAD), they would never touch a Microsoft operating system ever again.

The polls are against you on that one. Because as far my observation goes, Linux operating systems are the biggest winner here. The open source freeware labels have had a great impact on the popularity factor. And as i said their are mods out there that enable unbutu to play alot of games. But it gets rather tiresome because u practically need a build for each game.

Apple products? Um, iPod, iPhone, Apple TV and Time Capsule.

Ok ya khaye, sorry Apple COMPUTER products. Were talking about computers here, so mind the typing slip up will ya.

Besides, Macs are used in the music and movie industry.

You already said that, and i second you on their superiority in that field.

Next up, machine aging. Tell me, friendofzeus, can a PIII run Vista? I know for a fact that a G3 can run Leopard :)

Nope, it cant. I have a feeling u think im a windows fan boy. I concretely am not, as i hate using vista, and have xp installed on my gaming desktop. Even though im not too pleased with xp, im kinda stuck in a rut, since im primarily a gamer, i cannot switch to linux nor OS'X, so im keeping my fingers crossed for a google OS :P. As windows 7 is no more than a huge vista patch with the touch screen ****.

friendofzeus, thoroughly use OSX before getting yourself deeper into this. I have made the switch one year ago, after spending time with XP, Vista and GNU/Linux, I know what I am talking about.

In this regard, you are correct, i need to have more experience with OSX. But you cant install it on a regular pc can you?

You're relying on Lebanese conventional wisdom, think of yourself, build up a critical spirit :)

Why the stereotyping, were just having an argument.