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Core I7 To Sport 6 Cores

Intel announced that the first ’Nehalem’ family of processors to be made available will be desktop processors (Core i7) and high-performance server products code-named Nehalem-EP.

Intel said it is planning to manufacture a second server derivative designed for the expandable server market ("Nehalem-EX"), as well as desktop (Havendale and Lynnfield) and mobile (Auburndale and Clarksfield) client versions in the second half of 2009.

All Nehalem processors will be quad-core versions initially, processing up to eight threads simultaneously, thanks to the use of a revived and updated Hyperthreading technology.

Intel’s 6-core processor code-named Dunnington will be called Xeon X7460 and is expected to become available in servers beginning next month. Intel claims that servers based on the chip already have broken performance records, including an 8-socket 48-core IBM System x3950 M2 server, which became the first platform to break the 1 million tpmC barrier on the TPC-C benchmark, Intel said.

Intel also demonstrated the company’s first mobile quad-core processor and, for the first time, the next-generation Calpella mobile platform, as well as Intel’s upcoming solid state disk drives, which will debut in 32 GB and 80 GB flavors.
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Core I7 Will Self Overclock

Intel’s upcoming Core i7 processors will feature a turbo mode, as announced on Day 1 of IDF. Although not quite like the retro turbo mode button found on computers of the late 1980’s, the turbo mode on Core i7 will still result in increased single threaded performance. The technology is based on the idea of dynamically increasing the frequency of the CPU when not all the cores are in use, archiving higher single threaded performance when that is all that is required.

ZoomThe technology is aided by the improved power management features found on Nehalem also announced at IDF. The Integrated Power Gate technology will shut off idle cores, reducing their voltage to zero, rather than just lowering the power provided to them. Not having as many cores on using power and producing heat, will allow other cores to use more power, increasing the performance of those cores, while still not exceeding the maximum TDP of the processor.

In the following scenario for example, if you are using a Core i7 with 4 cores, and the game you are using uses only a single core, the other three cores will turn off, reducing the heat produced by your processor, allowing the only running core to be automatically overclocked for higher performance. This new technology may be a compelling reason for many to no longer choose the faster clocked dual core processor over the slower quad core, as the quad core could offer now equal single threaded performance at the same price.

Exactly what type of improvement is expected form this turbo mode is yet to be seen, but early leaked demonstrations show at least a single stepping of improvement, 22 to 23 for example. What this Turbo Mode means for overclockers is also yet to be seen also. Some are saying overclocking on Nehalem will be very difficult if Intel so chooses to make it so however. Leaked information also indicates that production CPUs will self overclock by up to two speed bins — for example jumping from 3 GHz to 3.2 GHz or even 3.4 GHz.

With this kind of headroom, it will be interesting to see how far enthusiasts will be able to push Core i7 processors. Even Intel indicated to us in June that Core i7 silicon is extremely healthy. Our own tests revealed that Core i7 processors will have considerable amount of headroom in terms of clock speeds.

For those who remember, the original "turbo button" found on many PCs back in the day, was there not actually to speed up the CPU, but actually to slow it down. When activated, the CPU actually ran at full speed. With the turbo button switched off, the CPU would be underclocked to allow certain legacy applications to run at "normal" speeds instead of "too fast."
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Core i7 'Nehalem' Briefing Report

Intel gave a briefing today on what the public should expect to see in its upcoming Core i7 processors and the X58 chipset coming with it.

ZoomStephen Thomas from Intel’s Platform Applications Engineering division gave a complete overview of the Core i7 processors as well as the specifications for the X58 chipset. The Core i7 will change several things over the Core 2 processors, including an integrated memory controller as well as the new Intel QuickPath Interconnect, which will eliminate the Front Side Bus (FSB). Beyond that, we can expect the first wave of i7 Processors to come with 12 MB of unified L3 cache, and also have the OverSpeed Protection removed, good news for all you overclockers out there.

Another bonus coming with the new Nehalem architecture is how the processor will handle heat. With current processors, if a given heat is reached, the processor will automatically go to its lowest available frequency. While the processors will also lower the frequency, it will not automatically go down to the lowest possible point, instead utilizing a step process, going down one small step at a time until a desirable temperature is reached.

One of the most innovative features being found in the new Nehalem chips is the Turbo Mode, which will automatically overclock one or two cores in given situations. If only two of four available cores are needed, Turbo mode will kick in, shutting down the two unused cores as well as boosting the frequency of the other cores (add one performance bin to each). If only one core is needed, three will shut down and the frequency of the one active core will be boosted even more two performance bins).


The biggest change we will see with the new processors and chipset is a new socket, LGA1366. Because of the increased size and thus increased tension, Intel is changing how the processor attaches to the motherboard by separating the retention mechanism from the board. Instead of being soldered to the board, the retention mechanism will scre w into the board after the manufacturer or enthusiast places the processor into the bracket. Also, because everything is bigger, you’ll need a new heatsink or cooling solution, so if you plan on investing in a new i7/X58 setup, be prepared to buy a new aftermarket heatsink or liquid cooling system.

The new X58 chipset will bring a lot of welcome additions and changes, including three memory channels, which will allow for up to 24 GB of DDR3 memory. The new chipset will also use ICH10, so look for the expected eSATA as well as 12 USB ports.

As far as discrete graphics support is concerned, you should expect what is already available – two x16 or four x8. It’s also noteworthy that the new ICH10 will be Halogen free, making the new chipset a little more environmentally friendly. Also look for the inclusion of Intel Turbo Memory, allowing for up to 4GB of memory to be attached, which should help with performance across a wide array of applications.

Stay tuned for more in-depth reports of Nehalem, as we’re only scratching the surface.

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We also got to spend some private time with Intel engineers and what we saw was astonishing to say the least. Behind closed doors, we had the chance to look at the Nehalem family, and can confirm that Intel has a real winner on its hands. Not only was the chip in question fast, it was also extremely efficient at handling a number of processes.

The chip we took a look at was a 4-core Nehalem processor with Hyper Threading enabled, giving a total of 8 logical processes in Windows Vista. We saw several technology demos running including a highly intuitive photo gallery app that cut through high resolution photos with ease. Not only did Intel demonstrate the app, but the Nehalem test system also included a prototype touch screen device mounted on a traditional 30-inch Dell LCD. Touch based navigation was slick and smooth.

Intel also demonstrated video editing with a 1080p video loaded in Sony Vegas. The system handled the large video file (over 1GB) with ease and made video editing look as simple as photo editing. Performance was unquestionable.

The most impressive part however, was Nehalem’s clock speed, which we were told and can confirm was far beyond anything available on the market today. Although we can’t reveal how fast the actual clock speed was at, keep in mind that several months ago, we took a look at a Penryn chip running at 4 GHz. The Nehalem part is definitely within the same ballpark as PenrynOn - and air cooled non the less.
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Intel next-generation CPU architecture, code-named Nehalem, and now known as Core i7, will be officially launched in Q4 of this year, most likely in November.

HEXUS is out in force at this year's IDF (Intel Developer Forum), and, as usual, we'll be covering everything of note.

However, arriving in San Francisco a couple of days and, rudely, finding a Nehalem-based sytem at the Moscone Center - IDF's home - where the test systems were being built, HEXUS managed to secretly grab some time with a Nehalem box.

We managed to benchmark the single-socket, quad-core, eight-threaded, 2.93GHz monster and compare it against Intel's very own Core 2 Extreme QX9770, QX6800, and AMD's Phenom 9950 Black Edition.

As a summary, we know that the monolithic, 45nm-based Nehalem microarchitecture has an integrated memory controller - supporting tri-channel DDR3-1,066MHz RAM for the desktop - QuickPath Interconnect, simultaneous multithreading, and a three-level cache hierarchy with a large pool shared amongst all cores. The basic design, however, is entrenched in Core 2 roots, but the enhancements bear remarkable similarities to what AMD has been doing for a while now, or are we just being cynical and myopic?

Nehalem will be available for servers, desktops, and mobiles, and it's reasonable to assume that Intel will disseminate further model-numbering details during the Forum this week.

Intel's briefing documents indicate that initial single-package Nehalems will ship with a quad-core arrangement, bearing eight threads with SMT, with octo-core (16-thread) models to follow.

Bloomfield, the desktop part, will be available with frequencies of 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, and 3.2GHz, priced, we believe, at $266, $532, and $999, respectively, upon launch. Of course, a new motherboard will be needed to house the LGA1366 processors, and we saw plenty of Intel X58-based boards on show at this year's COMPUTEX event.

Prima facie, Nehalem - or Core i7 - is everything Core 2 is but more, lots more, and that's troubling for AMD, who's currently struggling with ramping clock speeds on its quad-core Phenom CPUs, thereby, with due note to Intel's line-up, pigeon-holing Phenom pricing to sub-$200.

Here's the Nehalem box that was equipped with a 2.93GHz-clocked CPU. Note the 6 DIMM slots for the X58 pre-production board. Three DIMM slots were filled, for tri-channel operation, using Kingston DDR3-1,066MHz modules.

Knowing that Nehalem doesn't use a front-side bus, the overall clockspeed is calculated by a multiplier that's factored by a 133MHz 'bus' speed.

The test system ran with the QuickPath interconnect operating via a 20-bit-wide bus and with a 4.8GT (gigatransfers) speed, pushing around 24GB/s for the link.

The tri-channel memory, making a total of 192 bits, offers around 38.4GB/s when using DDR3-1,600 memory - which is unoffically supported right now - and even 25.6GB/s with DDR3-1,066MHz RAM, which fits nicely inside the QuickPath link and provides plenty more than current Intel offerings.

Vista has a hard time working out what it is, though...

We had our labs build near-identical comparison systems, as far as other components were concerned, and have benchmarked Intel's leading single-CPU SKU, the Core 2 Extreme QX9770. Numbers from the 65nm-based Core 2 Extreme QX6800 have been included, to serve as an indicator of clock-for-clock performance: the Nehalem processor operates at 2.93GHz, too.

We ran an nForce 790i Ultra SLI for the two Intel LGA775 CPUs, as the table shows, for the simple but annoying reason that our X48 platform would refuse to run DDR3-1600MHz memory with utter stability.

Lastly, an AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition has been included in to the mix, to see how much of a mountain AMD has to climb in order to gain performance parity with what will be Intel's second-rung Nehalem.

The test system included slower-than-expected DDR3-1,066MHz memory in tri-channel mode and, as you will see when we arrive at the gaming benchmarks, there was some untoward graphics-related behaviour exhibited, too.

Please, please bear in mind that this is a look at a pre-production CPU and motherboard, and final numbers may not be indicative of retail performance. It's also not an apples-to-apples comparison, insofar as value is concerned.

Hello! The removal of the archaic front-side bus and use of tri-channel DDR3 memory, albeit at 1,066MHz for the Nehalem system, opens up the way to some incredible memory-bandwidth results - the highest we've seen for a consumer setup.

Just like graphics, memory bandwidth plays a pivotal role in determining overall performance, so Nehalem's memory interface and onboard controller look good on first glance.

Latency is average, beaten out by the high-bandwidth memory on the LGA775 systems. We're adamant that Nehalem, at the very least, will provide a Core 2 Extreme-matching figure when we officially review the processor in Q4 of this year.


HEXUS' PiFast test calculates the constant Pi to 10m places, using a brute-strength approach. What's interesting is that the single-threaded test is almost as fast on the 2.93GHz Nehalem as on the 3.2GHz QX9770, suggesting that memory bandwidth is coming into serious play.

AMD's fastest consumer CPU, the 2.6GHz-clocked Phenom X4 9950 BE, is some significant way behind.

On a clock-for-clock basis against the QX6800, the Nehalem is around 10 seconds faster in the dual-threaded WAV-encoding test, but it doesn't quite have the architectural muscle to push the 3.2GHz C2E into second place.


Installing and using the latest iteration of DivX, which takes partial advantage of the eight-thread ability of the Core i7, we see that a C2E QX9770 is some 15 per cent slower, an equivalently-clocked, non-SSE4.1-enabled QX6800 is 35 per cent slower , and a whopping 72 per cent deficit for Phenom X4 9950 BE.

The story is even brighter in WinRAR compression, which shows the next best, QX9770, some 30 per cent slower.


Professional software, which is usually optimised for multi-core usage, shows Nehalem in an appropriately refulgent light; trampling on the C2E QX9770 in unceremonious fashion. Indeed, it's over 33 per cent faster than the aforementioned CPU in Pov-ray 64-bit, and over twice as potent as AMD's best. Scary, huh?

We alluded to the fact that it wasn't all roses in the Nehalem garden, as far as the test box was concerned. One look in Device Manager showed that not all the correct drivers had been installed, which did little to hinder 2D performance, but played a part in sub-optimal 3D results.

A table has been included to highlight the results we observed, but it is abundantly clear that something was awry in the test box.

A few things to note here, folks.

Firstly, the Quake Wars: ET 1,680x1,050 result is significantly lower than expected, because the test becomes practically GPU-limited at that setting, even on a Radeon HD 4870 512MB card: we see that from the similarity of the results between other CPUs.

Secondly, the 3DMark Vantage default test score is around 1,000 marks too low, again resulting from, we believe, an unoptimised setup. But take a look at the CPU-only score and Nehalem's power rears its head.

Nehalem won't matter much if you play games that are limited by the graphics subsystem, usually at higher resolutions and image-quality settings, but it's always nice to have extra power under the hood, we suppose.

We will, of course, be taking an in-depth look as soon as we have a system that's not disadvantaged by time constraints.

What do we make of our first hands-on look with Nehalem - Intel's next-generation processor architecture?

Nehalem's performance is born from taking the Core 2 architecture as a base and adding sensible, performance-enhancing additions such as an integrated memory controller, QuickPath interconnect, tiered cache, and tri-channel memory. Last but not least, SMT (simultaneous multithreading) provides a healthy boost, too.

Looking back through the numbers, the 2.93GHz Nehalem naturally comes into its own when the cores, be they physical or virtual, are pushed by the software. When this happens, it's up to 33 per cent faster than a 3.2GHz Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770, and some 50 per cent quicker than an equivalently-clocked (Kentsfield-based) Core 2 Quad CPU.

Talking about the consumer space, Intel has enjoyed a performance lead over AMD for some time, and it's only going to continue, unabated, with the release of the Nehalem core. AMD's response will come in the form of a Phenom-upgraded processor, Shanghai, but it will need to be something special, really, really special, for it to effectively counter the Nehalem threat.

Knowing the likely pricing of initial Nehalem CPUs, the ramifications of the new architecture are more than just related to performance, however. AMD, it seems, will not be able to compete against the Nehalem's performance, even with Shanghai, and, so, the pricing of subsequent Phenoms will be indirectly set by Intel. We can't see a Phenom being sold for, say, $500 anytime soon; AMD doesn't have the necessary power to do so, unless it can pull a rabbit out of the silicon bag.

Bottom line: Nehalem's very real performance numbers put incumbent Core 2 Extreme in the shade and pose AMD some really tough headaches.

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Pre-order prices for upcoming X58 motherboards and Intel Core i7 processors have appeared online.

MSI EclipseThe upcoming Core i7 platform is looking to be rather expensive as pre-order prices for several X58 motherboards and Core i7 processors have begun appearing online. Last week we saw that MSI had three X58 motherboards planned for release and now early retail prices for these boards have appeared online.

According to Geizhals, the MSI X58 Platinum motherboard was listed online for just over €227 ($306) and the premium MSI Eclipse motherboard was listed for just over €306 ($413). The third MSI X58 motherboard is expected to be released at a later date, although its pricing is expected to be even higher as it seems to have been designed for extreme overclocking.

Prices for some Asus and Intel X58 motherboards have also appeared online, as discovered by Fudzilla. According to a listing that had since been taken down, an Intel X58 motherboard featuring only four memory slots had been listed for a price of £234.99 ($410). Since the Core i7 platform uses triple channel memory, it seems odd that an X58 motherboard would have four memory slots instead of three or six.

Also listed were two Asus motherboards; the Asus P6T Deluxe and the Asus P6T Deluxe "OC Palm Edition", priced at £252.61($441) and £281.99 ($492), respectively. The difference between the two boards is that the OC Palm Edition features an external LCD display that helps with system overclocking. More information about the Asus P6T Deluxe “OC Palm Edition”, including photos, is available at Xtremesystems.

As for Intel Core i7 processors, a Canadian retailer had listed prices online for the upcoming processors. The Intel Core i7 920, 940 and 965 Exteme Edition processors had been listed for (CAD) $339.95, $649.95 and $1,099.95, respectively. The official prices for these processors when purchased in bulk from Intel are expected to be $284, $562 and $999, respectively, with an expected release date set for November.

Although this early look at the retail prices for X58 motherboards and processors may not be representative of final retail pricing, it does give the consumer an idea of what an Intel Core i7 system will cost. Along with the cost of triple channel DDR3 memory, it would seem like an Intel Core i7 system will be on the expensive side. Many consumers may find an Intel Core 2 Duo system to offer better value, at least for now.
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SWINDON, UK, Nov. 18, 2008 – Intel Corporation introduced its most advanced desktop processor ever, the Intel® Core™ i7 processor. The Core i7 processor is the first member of a new family of Nehalem processor designs and is the most sophisticated ever built, with new technologies that boost performance on demand and maximize data throughput. The Core i7 processor speeds video editing, immersive games and other popular Internet and computer activities by up to 40 percent without increasing power consumption.

Broadly heralded by the computing industry as a technical marvel, the Intel® Core™ i7 processor holds a new world record of 117 for the SPECint_base_rate2006* benchmark test that measures the performance of a processor. This is the first time ever for any single processor to exceed a score of 100 points.

“Intel has delivered the fastest desktop processor on Earth to the most demanding users on Earth, the ones who are using their PCs for video, gaming and music,” said Patrick Gelsinger, senior vice president and general manager of Intel’s Digital Enterprise Group. “When you couple what is Intel’s biggest leap in chip design with other incredible innovations like Intel’s solid state drives, the Core i7 processor has redefined the computer of tomorrow.”

Tech Web sites have been extremely positive in their product reviews. Anandtech states that “Core i7 continues to fuel Intel’s beacon of performance.” “The Core i7 is everything they promised it would be,” says PC Perspective. “Nehalem is a masterpiece,” says the Lost Circuits Web site. The Tech Report calls it “one of the most consequential shifts in the industry.”

Intel’s unique Turbo Boost Technology accelerates performance to match a computer user’s needs and workloads. Through a sophisticated on-die power control unit and using new “power gate” transistors based on Intel’s advanced 45 nanometer, high-k metal gate manufacturing process, Turbo Boost automatically adjusts the clock speed of one or more of the four individual processing cores for single- and multi-threaded applications to boost performance, without increasing power consumption. The Core i7 also has the latest Intel power-saving technologies, allowing desktops to go into sleep states formerly reserved for Intel-based notebooks.

The Core i7 processor more than doubles the memory bandwidth of previous Intel “Extreme” platforms, speeding the transfer of computer bits and bites in and out of the processor with Intel® Quickpath Technology. Designed with Intel’s Hyper-Threading Technology, the processor also allows multiple computing threads to run simultaneously, effectively enabling it to do two things at once. As a result, the Core i7 quad-core processor delivers 8-threaded performance.

The Intel Core i7 processor also offers unrivaled performance for immersive 3-D games – over 40 percent faster than previous Intel high-performance processors on both the 3DMark Vantage CPU* physics and AI tests, popular industry computer benchmarks that measure gaming performance. The Extreme Edition uses 8 threads to run games with advanced artificial intelligence and physics to make games act and feel real.

The Intel® Core™ i7 processors and Intel® X58 Express Chipset-based Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO Extreme Series are for sale immediately from several computer manufacturers online and in retail stores, as well as a boxed retail product via channel online sales.
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ber of the Intel Nehalem microarchitecture family; server and mobile product versions will be in production later. Each Core i7 processor features an 8 MB level 3 cache and three channels of DDR3 1066 memory to deliver the best memory performance of any desktop platform. Intel’s top performance processor, the Intel® Core™ i7 Extreme Edition, also removes overspeed protection, allowing Intel’s knowledgeable customers or hobbyists to further increase the chip’s speed.
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guess soon people are gonna consider Duo 2 Core Antiquated technology and are gonna have to move on to Quad Core
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Having raised the performance bar with ease back in November 2008, Intel appears to be set to give it another nudge forward with the launch of the Core i7 975 Extreme Edition processor.

Details are in short supply, but overclockers Mikeguava and Fugger appear to have their hands on Intel's range-topping part and have done what they do best - overclock the hell out of it. Using GIGABYTE's EX58 Extreme mainboard, Corsair's peltier-cooled memory and a pair of Radeon HD 4870 X2 graphics cards, they managed to score a staggering 47,026 3DMarks.

What's interesting is that the CPU features D0 stepping, and such a change usually denotes a refined silicon package that could result in lower power consumption and should provide greater overclocking headroom.

There's no news on release details at this early stage, but this is a chip that's likely to be priced close to the mind-boggling £1,000 mark. We'd hate to be one of those who've recently splashed out over £800 on the soon-to-be-dethroned Core i7 965 Extreme Edition.

Source: HEXUS.net - News :: Intel's 3.33GHz Core i7 975 Extreme Edition en route : Page - 1/1
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