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Ya Venom, Saudi Arabia 3atoul btit7ifna bi khbar jdide ... i suggest to open only one thread dedicated to her .... and put inside all related threads. .... What can we say ... those people are creative ... 3emlinlo 3i2de la Venom
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The controversy triggered by Star Academy was proportional to the program’s popularity, especially in Saudi Arabia, where clerics and politicians condemned it and a Saudi columnist in the establishment daily al–Riyadh called Star Academy “a whorehouse,” using epithets rarely printed in the Saudi press, while religious activists distributed an audio cassette carrying fiery sermons titled “The Academy of the Devil.” [44] Clerics were inundated with requests for rulings on whether it was haram or hall to watch and participate in the show. In what amounted to a rare dissenting youth voice in a cyberspace enamored with the show, an Islamist youth group set up a now defunct Web site called No2StarAcademy.net. More importantly, the highly influential “Permanent Committee for Scientific Research and the Issuing of Fatwa’s” in Saudi Arabia issued a lengthy fatwa, replete with citations from the Qur’an and Habit, prohibiting watching, discussing, voting in or participating in Star Academy. These are some excerpts from the fatwa (emphasis added by author):

“The Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwa’s has studied the questions from a number of proud Muslims concerning the program broadcast by some Arabic satellite channels which is called “Star Academy” and other similar shows. After studying the matter, the Committee thinks that these shows should be banned and it is harem to watch them, finance them, take part in them, call them to vote or to express admiration of them, because of what these shows include of allowing forbidden things concerning which there is consensus that they are forbidden, and doing so brazenly ... What brazenness in committing harem and immoral actions can be worse than these shows which include a number of serious evils? These include:

— Free mixing of the sexes. ...

So what about these programs, the main idea of which is mixing between the sexes and removing all barriers between them, as well as the wanton display and unveiling on the part of the women, and displaying their charms which leads to much evil?

— Blatant promotion of immorality and the means that lead to it. [this is related to illicit sexual intercourse]

— The call to remove hay’ (modesty, shyness) and ghee rah (protective jealousy, pride) from the hearts of the Muslims by making them get used to seeing these shameful scenes that provoke desires and distancing them from good morals and virtue.

...

It is not sufficient for you to abstain from watching these shows; you should also advise and remind those whom you know watch them or take part in them in any way, because that comes under the heading of cooperating in righteousness and piety, and forbidding one another to engage in sin and transgression.

The Committee also calls upon the businessmen who finance these shows to fear Allah with regard to the blessing of wealth that Allah has bestowed upon them, and not use it for things that will adversely affect the youth of this amah, destroy the symbols of Islam and serve the enemies of Islam, for this is a kind of ingratitude for blessings and is a cause of their loss.

It is obvious that these kinds of shows are among the causes of disasters that strike Islam and the Muslims.”

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Ya Venom, Saudi Arabia 3atoul btit7ifna bi khbar jdide ... i suggest to open only one thread dedicated to her .... and put inside all related threads. .... What can we say ... those people are creative ... 3emlinlo 3i2de la Venom
ma fashar el Saudi ya3mlooleh 3e2deh...such wahabis salafis....

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CHRISTIANS WILL RETURN THERE


OOPS fakaret 7aleh hannaalsayssa for a moment...
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The controversy triggered by Star Academy was proportional to the program’s popularity, especially in Saudi Arabia, where clerics and politicians condemned it and a Saudi columnist in the establishment daily al–Riyadh called Star Academy “a whorehouse,” using epithets rarely printed in the Saudi press, while religious activists distributed an audio cassette carrying fiery sermons titled “The Academy of the Devil.” [44] Clerics were inundated with requests for rulings on whether it was haram or hall to watch and participate in the show. In what amounted to a rare dissenting youth voice in a cyberspace enamored with the show, an Islamist youth group set up a now defunct Web site called No2StarAcademy.net. More importantly, the highly influential “Permanent Committee for Scientific Research and the Issuing of Fatwa’s” in Saudi Arabia issued a lengthy fatwa, replete with citations from the Qur’an and Habit, prohibiting watching, discussing, voting in or participating in Star Academy. These are some excerpts from the fatwa (emphasis added by author):

“The Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwa’s has studied the questions from a number of proud Muslims concerning the program broadcast by some Arabic satellite channels which is called “Star Academy” and other similar shows. After studying the matter, the Committee thinks that these shows should be banned and it is harem to watch them, finance them, take part in them, call them to vote or to express admiration of them, because of what these shows include of allowing forbidden things concerning which there is consensus that they are forbidden, and doing so brazenly ... What brazenness in committing harem and immoral actions can be worse than these shows which include a number of serious evils? These include:

— Free mixing of the sexes. ...

So what about these programs, the main idea of which is mixing between the sexes and removing all barriers between them, as well as the wanton display and unveiling on the part of the women, and displaying their charms which leads to much evil?

— Blatant promotion of immorality and the means that lead to it. [this is related to illicit sexual intercourse]

— The call to remove hay’ (modesty, shyness) and ghee rah (protective jealousy, pride) from the hearts of the Muslims by making them get used to seeing these shameful scenes that provoke desires and distancing them from good morals and virtue.

...

It is not sufficient for you to abstain from watching these shows; you should also advise and remind those whom you know watch them or take part in them in any way, because that comes under the heading of cooperating in righteousness and piety, and forbidding one another to engage in sin and transgression.

The Committee also calls upon the businessmen who finance these shows to fear Allah with regard to the blessing of wealth that Allah has bestowed upon them, and not use it for things that will adversely affect the youth of this amah, destroy the symbols of Islam and serve the enemies of Islam, for this is a kind of ingratitude for blessings and is a cause of their loss.

It is obvious that these kinds of shows are among the causes of disasters that strike Islam and the Muslims.”

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I Agree with what they say in this One. I just can't watch a complete waste of time such as Star Academy, Nor could i tolerate the Fact that Much Money was spent on It while our people are dying daily.

This was my View and the View of many Others Obviously before they release this Saudian Fatwa.
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ma fashar el Saudi ya3mlooleh 3e2deh...such wahabis salafis....

AL SAUDIYA LANA
MAKA LANA
RIYAD LANA

CHRISTIANS WILL RETURN THERE


OOPS fakaret 7aleh hannaalsayssa for a moment...
Mekka is no one's private property, it was there long before Moses Jesus and Mohamad.

وَإِذْ جَعَلْنَا الْبَيْتَ مَثَابَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَمْناً وَاتَّخِذُواْ مِن مَّقَامِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ مُصَلًّى وَعَهِدْنَا إِلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ أَن طَهِّرَا بَيْتِيَ لِلطَّائِفِينَ وَالْعَاكِفِينَ وَالرُّكَّعِ السُّجُودِ

وَإِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَاهِيمُ رَبِّ اجْعَلْ هَـَذَا بَلَدًا آمِنًا وَارْزُقْ أَهْلَهُ مِنَ الثَّمَرَاتِ مَنْ آمَنَ مِنْهُم بِاللّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ قَالَ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَأُمَتِّعُهُ قَلِيلاً ثُمَّ أَضْطَرُّهُ إِلَى عَذَابِ النَّارِ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ

And so it was... It was never conquered by anyone and it's loaded. Khallihon yetmata3o tanshouf........

وَإِذْ يَرْفَعُ إِبْرَاهِيمُ الْقَوَاعِدَ مِنَ الْبَيْتِ وَإِسْمَاعِيلُ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّا إِنَّكَ أَنتَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ


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SHN: إننا اليوم أقرب من أي وقت مضى إلى كنيسة القيامة و المسجد الأقصى

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BEIT LAHM LANA
KANISAT ALQIYAMA LANA

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مسؤول يدين الدورية.. ومواطن وزوجته يطلبان تعويضا عن تشويه السمعة
مطاردة بالسيارات في الرياض بين الهيئة ومواطن تتسبب بحادث مروري




دبي - العربية.نت

طارد أعضاء من هيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر بسيارتهم الجيب، مساء الاثنين شابا وفتاة في الرياض، مما أدى إلى حادث مروري مروع، وارتطام سيارة المواطن بعدد من السيارات، وفقا لتقرير نشرته صحيفة "الوطن" السعودية الثلاثاء 7-10-2008.

وفيما جاء الحادث مخالفا لتوجيهات رئاسة الهيئة والجهات الرسمية الأخرى لأعضاء الهيئة بحظر مطاردة السيارات، تعهد نائب رئيس الهيئة الشيخ إبراهيم الهويمل بالتحقيق في الحادث ومعاقبة المخالفين، وشدد على أن مطاردة السيارات "ممنوعة".

وقد انتهت المطاردة بإجبار الشاب على التوقف بعدما ارتطمت سيارته "اللكزس" بسور أرض فضاء في حي التعاون، قبيل اصطدامه بأربع سيارات، حسب ما أكد شهود عيان.

ونجح رجال الهيئة في القبض على الفتاة، وتركوا الشاب في سيارته بعد ضربه ضرباً مبرحاً. وتورط في الاعتداء عضوان أحدهما شاب في العشرينيات، كما قاما بانتزاع بطاقة الهوية من الشاب، حسب تقرير الصحيفة.

وقال أصحاب السيارات المتضررة من الحادث إنهم يزمعون مطالبة الهيئة بدفع تعويضات عن الخسائر التي لحقت بسياراتهم.

وفي شأن متصل، لجأ شاب المدينة الذي تعرض وزوجته للملاحقة من قبل الهيئة بعد الاشتباه بوجودهما في "خلوة غير شرعية" إلى إمارة المنطقة للمطالبة بالتعويض عن ما اعتبره تشويها للسمعة.

لكن رئيس هيئة المدينة المنورة الدكتور عبدالله الزهراني أكد أن دورية الهيئة اشتبهت في تصرفاتهما وطلبت منهما التوقف لكن الشاب امتنع، وبعد إيقافها هربت الفتاة وركبت في سيارة أخرى ليتم استبدالها بزوجة الشاب.

وكان الشاب وزوجته في طريقهما من مستشفى صوب مسكنهما في حي العزيزية، وذلك حينما بدأ قائد مركبة تتبع لمركز هيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر بحي "الجرف"، وهي من طراز "جيب" بيضاء اللون، بإضاءة المصابيح على مركبة الزوجين بعد أن اشتبه أن الشاب والفتاة في حالة خلوة غير شرعية.

وبدأت الملاحقة بين الطرفين لتنتهي بقيام قائد مركبة الهيئة بتجاوز سيارة الزوجين والاصطدام بها لإيقافها جبريا،ثم ترجل عضو من الهيئة في مقتبل العمر مطالبا الفتاة بمرافقته إلى دورية الهيئة بتهمة الاختلاء برجل لا يعد محرما لها، وهو ما أشعل الموقف خاصة بعد أن حضر أشقاء الزوج واشتبكوا مع عضوي الهيئة قبل أن تصل الدوريات الأمنية إلى الموقع وتسيطر على الموقف.

من جهتها، أكدت الزوجة أنها هي من طلبت من زوجها عدم التوقف إلا في المنزل بعد أن بدأت مطاردة مركبة الهيئة، قائلة إن الأخيرة لم تكن هويتها محددة، ولم تكن تقل أي رجل أمن مما جعلها وزوجها في حالة رعب.

وقالت الزوجة إن شخصين على الأقل كانا يستقلان مركبة الهيئة توجها صوب زوجها بعد أن قاما باستيقاف مركبته بالقوة، حيث اشتبكا معه محاولين سحبه إلى مركبة الهيئة بالقوة، فيما قام أحدهم، والذي وصفته بأنه صغير السن، بإحكام قبضته على معصمها ومحاولة سحبها من يدها بعنف قائلا لها ما معناه "تعاوني معنا حتى نستر عليكِ"، مضيفا بعد استمرار رفضها الصعود إلى المركبة "أنت من جلبت الفضيحة إلى نفسك".

وردا على تصريحات رئيس هيئة المدينة المنورة حول واقعة استبدال فتاة كانت برفقة الشاب بزوجته، قالت الأخيرة إنها لن تسمح لنفسها ولن تسمح لها أسرتها أن تكون في مثل هذه المواقف المنحدرة أخلاقيا، وأن ما جاء على لسان مسؤول الهيئة يسجل ضمن الأذى النفسي الذي لحق بها وبزوجها، مشيرة إلى أن البينة على من ادعى واليمين على من أنكر.

إلى ذلك، أخضع شقيق الزوجة والذي حاول الاعتداء على أعضاء هيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر في حي العزيزية للتحقيق، فيما أطلق سراحه أمس بالكفالة.

وقد أفاد الأخير في أقواله بمحاضر ضبط هيئة الرقابة والتحقيق أنه دخل مقر الهيئة بحي العزيزية بالخطأ، ظنا منه أن العضوين اللذين لاحقا شقيقته وزوجها يتبعان له، ولكن تبين لاحقا أنهما يتبعان مركز الهيئة في حي "الجرف".

so backward.....what a country!
I am never shocked whenever i read something like that about Saudi Arabia they are much behind civilization..they still live in old days
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Literaly i am thinking of converting to Buhdism ..
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