Who are the Lebanese? -- Marcel Ghanem is NOT Phoenician.

[Hizb_al_LIBNANI]

Originally Posted by amalhope

Actually, according to what Dr. Zallou3a said in the interview with Marcel Ghanem, the genetic identifier is also present in adjacent areas like present-day Syria. He also asserted that there are no significant differences along sectarian lines in Lebanon, although he mentioned that European traces are more dominant (not exclusive) in Christian Lebanese due to more intermarriages with crusaders.

You're right, though, in that nothing in definitive yet.

Agreed..

I think many make the mistake of calling it black and white... I took the Y chromosome test (paternal ancestry) I have yet to take the mitochondreal (Maternal) test which may turn out somthing completely different. I think the most advances have been made in y-chromosomal testing and it seems like the maternal ancestry hasn't produced clear results.

For the most part, they have corrilated historical evidence with genetic evidence...and that is the key...they can cross analyze what we know from historical data (like which areas Phoenicia had its biggest populations) and genetic data that corrilates with those historical locations...

I urge anyone who has access to National Geographic to take this test and find your haplogroup...I have actually connected with people from all over the world who carry the same Y marker as me...and its quite interesting.

[lady_forever]

كيف؟؟؟ تعرف الشخص اللبناني من بين سكان العالم size="3"


* بيفهم في الطب وبيشخص المرض وبيوصفلك الدوا وبيفهم في الكهربا وتصليح السيارات والطبخ والسياسة والقانون والواجب و الدين و الحسابات والكورة وهو أبيض ياورد .

*بيحط الريموت كونترول في كيس نايلون حتى ما يتغبر ولا يضيع

* بس يقعد يتفرج على التلفزيون بيضل ينقل من محطة لمحطة كل دقيقة
*بيوقف يتكلم على الباب نص ساعة بعد إنتهاء الزيارة والسلام
*في خزانة المطبخ عنده عشرين مرطبان مربى فاضي منشان اذا احتاج يستخدمها ومازال مُصِر على جمع المزيد.
*ييجي بعد الموعد بساعة وربع دون ان يعتذر.
*يتكلم بصوت عالي في المكالمة الدولية منشان التاني يسمعه .

بيعتبر حاله أفضل واحد في الشراء والمفاصلة ثم يكتشف إن الشي في المحل اللي جنبه أرخص من غير مفاصلة.
*بيحتفظ بأكياس محلات اللبس والأحذية وورق الهدايا تحت فرشة التخت لسنوات (يا عمي مين بلش بها العادة؟( )

*عنده صينية مكسرات مقسمة لتلات او أربع أقسام منشان المزاج لكن لايستخدمها ابدا.
*بيشتري قبل الإفطار في رمضان مواد استهلاكية متوفرة عنده في البيت *عنده منقل شوي للرحلات يستخدمه مرة واحدة كل عيد ..
*بيكون مشغول بقيمة البقشيش طول العشا.. ياترى 25 أما50؟
*بيتخانق ساعة دفع الحساب بحرارة شديدة على إنه هو اللي لازم يدفع.
*بيفرش شرشف التخت على طقم الكنب< / span>ايات منشان الكنباية ما تتوسخ، ولما يجوا الضيوف يترك الشرشف وما بشيله.

*بيطفي سيكارتو بفنجان القهوة مع انو في منفطة على الطاولة

*دائما يعيش ضمن الحلم ولا يقبل بان يخرج مما يحلم.

* اكثر واحد عنده كرامه في العالم.


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[Kibitzer]

Originally Posted by Xena

can i ask a question here...

what difference would it make if the lebanese were phoenicians, arabs, japanese or whatever... would it change what they are now?

all this talk about the origin of the race blabla.. is racist... get over it!!

It is interesting to trace ancestry through the scientific analysis and genome tracking but it does not change what Lebanese are today.

From the outside, looking in .... I can say without reservation that the Lebanese are very hospitable, very educated and knowledgeable, very friendly people.

They are a "people" who are still looking for and working towards a cohesive country of peace and prosperity. I don't see this so much as an issue of "racism" as I do an issue of melding of sects and religion with politics often getting in the way of that ... as is the case in most countries.

I have not been around here much lately (home politics took precedence) and never posted as much in the lounge as I probably should have - but I've seen a lot during my almost 3 years in this community from the outside - whatever the ancient ancestry is, the young Lebanese have a firm conviction of nationalism IMO, which has nothing to do with genetic maps of the past.

Look to the future - not the past.

K