what you are ready to do for him/her ?

[Salome]

Originally Posted by scorpion

- Yes I am a proud Scorpio:)
- I didn't say man by all means, but ok in some small issues they argue, communicate and the one with logical point of view convince the other. I am talking about BIG stuff, critical decisions, like for example the wife wants to stay in Lebanon near her mom, but the man gets a good opportunity abroad and situations in Lebanon are unstable and economy is wrecked, but the women insists that although man is right and logical she doesn't want to travel and move abroad, in this case in my humble opinion the Man is better decision maker who follows his logic whereas SOME women are blinded by sentiments and are better to OBEI not only MAN but also the BIBLE.

what about the BIBLE statements, any comments from your end Salome? of course if you are a Christian/religious given that I will not accept "This was in the old days of the Bible" as an answer.

- are you serious which brilliant leaders u r talkin about who were scopios? i know about Geagea and am initiating a law suit to prove that he wasn't really born in October thus not a scorpio...anyway you are mainly attacking my name and scorpios and zodiac signs...SEE how you didn't even follow logic in your answer, still talking horoscopes and stuff like this. Don't tell me you read horsoscopes and if in your husband's they say he will cheat on you, you make a fight. [do not get upset am kidding Okayyy]

The example of leaving Lebanon, it cant happen the other way round, that the woman finds something abroad and the men is reluctant to follow?
Am just against generalizing on women, there are all kinds of, as well as all kinds of men. Everyone shall be happy and find the best suitable partner possible.


If you dont mind I wont comment on the Bible, I choose the way I want to live.

Oh yes, I check horoscope regurarly, especially my husbands' one to decide about the degree of punishment he gets if he cheats on me

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

We're not doing that ;).

No offence, you said nothing but the truth. Good points. I wish all understand this so that we get that corrupt society back to what it was like. Ma3 2ayya khartoushe bet2abbe3 w betfell, kello mnel ghenj wel dala3. Excuse me ladies, this is what I believe. I'm kind of old fashioned... Don't know why I was 'moulded' like that...

Dear Dalzi,

Thanks for getting the exact message I wanted to deliver.

Back in the old days:
Women used to cook not using ovens, go get water men lnabe3, handwash, take care of the chickens and goats and...

Today:
Women have a maid, they wake up at noon, go drink coffee with friends, and come home to nagg on husband who is still as in the old days working hard (even harder) and complain instead of being thankfull to all what they got.

Conclusion:
women got all the luxuries and more rights then men, and still they are not pleased.

Can anyone proove that the following sentence is wrong:
Tell your women yes and ok for everything, she will say i want a man you are agree on everything you are not a real man, If you one time just one time tell her no or i have different opinion she will bring sky down to earth (i intended to translate direct arabic okayyy) and start saying i am not a slave and i have an opinion to.

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by Salome

Am just against generalizing on women, there are all kinds of, as well as all kinds of men. Everyone shall be happy and find the best suitable partner possible.

You remind me of a woman i know, when i for example tell her a study was made prooving that the brain of a man has better relfex and cotrol capabilities making them better car drivers then women, and she starts shouting no women are like men, and there also men who are bad drivers. after 5 minutes we are driving on the highway and some car decides to make sudden right turn in front of us and she is scared and mad and discovers that it is Woman, she instinctly shouts ana 2elet hayde mara "i knew it is a woman" coz in her innerself she knows it, but she just want to deny it and say no we are the same. Like women in the american army (by the way am a MS degree holder from USA) and one time we had a debate in school and a woman PHD holder was saying: women want to be equal with man and have the same rights, look at the iraqi war, woman wanted to fight in the army, but when they r taken hostages they go back to their instincts and start nagging that this in unethical and unhuman to take women hostages and maybe rape them, com on u r going to war what u expect? ur enemies to tell oo lady sorry take our guns and shoot us?

Or the same woman asking for equality will get upset if the husband doesn't open the car door.

Originally Posted by Salome

Oh yes, I check horoscope regurarly, especially my husbands' one to decide about the degree of punishment he gets if he cheats on me

poor guy, he could buy maguy farah book and know what punishments to expect the whole year, or which days he will sleep on the couch

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by scorpion

Dear Dalzi,

Thanks for getting the exact message I wanted to deliver.

Back in the old days:
Women used to cook not using ovens, go get water men lnabe3, handwash, take care of the chickens and goats and...

Ahhhh, the good old days!

Today:
Women have a maid, they wake up at noon, go drink coffee with friends, and come home to nagg on husband who is still as in the old days working hard (even harder) and complain instead of being thankfull to all what they got.

Conclusion:
women got all the luxuries and more rights then men, and still they are not pleased.

Yes, I know. Shou ba3melkon ya3ne? lol No one told you to be born in this age.
The Qur'ans says: الرجال قوامون على النساء. This doesn't mean that a woman is a slave who has to follow orders like a sheep, but rather that the man is the leader of the house.

Can anyone proove that the following sentence is wrong:
Tell your women yes and ok for everything, she will say i want a man you are agree on everything you are not a real man, If you one time just one time tell her no or i have different opinion she will bring sky down to earth (i intended to translate direct arabic okayyy) and start saying i am not a slave and i have an opinion to.

Well, for all i can say, I have a father who's a "MAN", a real man. I'm so proud of him and I respect him so much. He knows how to give and take, how to resepct and his word is final ;) lol. Yet it's built on negotiantions... Not only with my mother, but also with us. So, you gotta be open to talk, to give and take, and of course, lrejjel kelmto btemshe (they're gonna kill me now lol). No morning coffee, ya3ne no morning coffee . Otherwise, he should be labeled the all famous label "sissy". But bare in mind that we're talking about a wise man here, not an idiot who thinks he knows it all. Coz you have some men ma byeswo fijli (with all duer respect to Abufijli), yet they think they're God on earth...

A weak man with no personality whose bossed around by his wife turns me off to say the least .

[Maggie]

Originally Posted by scorpion

Dear Dalzi,

Thanks for getting the exact message I wanted to deliver.

Back in the old days:
Women used to cook not using ovens, go get water men lnabe3, handwash, take care of the chickens and goats and...

Today:
Women have a maid, they wake up at noon, go drink coffee with friends, and come home to nagg on husband who is still as in the old days working hard (even harder) and complain instead of being thankfull to all what they got.

Conclusion:
women got all the luxuries and more rights then men, and still they are not pleased.

Can anyone proove that the following sentence is wrong:
Tell your women yes and ok for everything, she will say i want a man you are agree on everything you are not a real man, If you one time just one time tell her no or i have different opinion she will bring sky down to earth (i intended to translate direct arabic okayyy) and start saying i am not a slave and i have an opinion to.

you are totaly wrong ... 3andak 3e2de shi?

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Maggie

you are totaly wrong ... 3andak 3e2de shi?

No Maggie, he doesn't mean that all women are like that, but unfortunately the majority have become very materialistic and they value nothing. This is the truth whether we admit it or not. Just look around you and see how many a relationship isn't working out. And, it's usually the woman's fault!

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by Maggie

you are totaly wrong ... 3andak 3e2de shi?

Oooops at least give me a chance here..elaborate more...
Ma32ul nkun ana WDalzi m3a2adin y3ne? fekkilna l3e2ad

[Salome]

Originally Posted by scorpion

You remind me of a woman i know, when i for example tell her a study was made prooving that the brain of a man has better relfex and cotrol capabilities making them better car drivers then women, and she starts shouting no women are like men, and there also men who are bad drivers. after 5 minutes we are driving on the highway and some car decides to make sudden right turn in front of us and she is scared and mad and discovers that it is Woman, she instinctly shouts ana 2elet hayde mara "i knew it is a woman" coz in her innerself she knows it, but she just want to deny it and say no we are the same. Like women in the american army (by the way am a MS degree holder from USA) and one time we had a debate in school and a woman PHD holder was saying: women want to be equal with man and have the same rights, look at the iraqi war, woman wanted to fight in the army, but when they r taken hostages they go back to their instincts and start nagging that this in unethical and unhuman to take women hostages and maybe rape them, com on u r going to war what u expect? ur enemies to tell oo lady sorry take our guns and shoot us?

Or the same woman asking for equality will get upset if the husband doesn't open the car door.

Being equal in rights, at the work place, and in salary doesnt mean they have to stop being gentlemen.

Originally Posted by scorpion

Back in the old days:
Women used to cook not using ovens, go get water men lnabe3, handwash, take care of the chickens and goats and...

Today:
Women have a maid, they wake up at noon, go drink coffee with friends, and come home to nagg on husband who is still as in the old days working hard (even harder) and complain instead of being thankfull to all what they got.

The ones who have maids and get up at 12 never had chickens and goats to look after in first place.
And you are talking about like people are not responsible for their choices. Nobody forces a man to marry a woman who likes to have maids and do nothing all day long. If he marries her then why the complaints?

[Faithful]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

The only thing I would want from my woman is pure, passionate and honest LOOOOOOVE.

All the rest mesh mashkal!

I agree with that ... When you are able to give a person the pure, passionate and honest love ya3ni you are giving him everything he needs and sometimes more than he expects ...... wil be2e mich machkal akid ... killo byin7al when true love exists

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by Salome

Being equal in rights, at the work place, and in salary doesnt mean they have to stop being gentlemen.

You are still stuck in the same traditional mentality when it comes to what women want or man should do for women, you want equality, and same rights as man and at same time want to keep all the priviliges of the old era...If you say Women and men are equal in everything then what makes a woman better then a man that if he doesnt open the door for her or tell her ladies first he is not a gentlemen?
If you wanna apply the etiquette on both men and women it will contradict with women rights.

Originally Posted by Salome

The ones who have maids and get up at 12 never had chickens and goats to look after in first place.
And you are talking about like people are not responsible for their choices. Nobody forces a man to marry a woman who likes to have maids and do nothing all day long. If he marries her then why the complaints?

Because usually most women (not all okayy) before marriage they are so "Okay honey whatever makes u happy" or "i have no problem with what u decide" but afterwards it changes..apart from the constant hormones effect...