what you are ready to do for him/her ?

[mount_amel]

Originally Posted by Maggie

ladeissss ...... where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu???????
wattttttttttttttttttttttttt?

La2oom 2ohrob 2abal ma yejeh 7adan .. Remember what i said : you women are over-reacting and get emotional ..

Badkon shee .. bye

[False Morel]

Originally Posted by Maggie

for example ... she doesn't like football and you love football and you have nothing to do but watching football all the time and this can bother her so much ... (me .. i hate football) what would you do?

there are small details in the relation can turn on the whole relation upside down and this is very serious and dangerous.[/b]

if those small details, just like the one you mentioned about the football thing, could turn the relation upside down and lead to some major problems and a divorce, then those couple should be imprisoned, the woman in an eternal cell with a tv showing football games 24/7, and the man in another cell with chef ramzi cooking those scary recipes 24/7, till they realize how immature, irresponsible, and stupid they are

those tiny things are trivial issues that shouldnt cause any misunderstanding whatsoever. living with a partner of course differs than living alone. a whole additional human being is what differs for gods sake!

what i refered to is a lot much deeper than what you understood!

and then, do you think that those couples breaking up after few years, do that because of those trivial issues?!
it may seem so, but it isnt!

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by der FPBer

no ma 5ass. nshallah ma koun az3ajtik demoiselle dalzi.
can you define "sexual discrimination" for me please? and i'm asking this for i know i'm not going off-topic with this ;)

La2 ma za3ajtne abadan walaw! :D. Sexual discrimination is when he has more rights than her or vice versa.

how did you come up with conclusion?

Of course they're different. Unless you're talking about "manly" women and "sissy" men lol.

i refered to three general terms by which the changes i hinted to could be categorized. could the examples you mentioned be categorized as such too?

Personality is very hard to change, impossible really. As for behavior, 100% completely changeable, and principles change heaps with age and experience. A new relationship can change a lot of your prinicples.

dalz, trivial issues arent considered.

These are the easiest things to change ;). Besides, everything in life is trivial if you think of it... The only big deal is treason, murder, stuff like that lol...

one of the major wrongs that leads to such disastrous problem, highly occuring in lebanon, is to have kids at the very early stages of that partenship. a married couple should at least wait three years for a such huge step.

What if they've known each other for centuries and they decide to get married at the age of 250? lol Three years bikoun ra7et 3layon! For young couples, yes I agree, it's very stupid. Early marriage is stupid too, you change so much as you grow up...

[False Morel]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

La2 ma za3ajtne abadan walaw! :D. Sexual discrimination is when he has more rights than her or vice versa.

the word discrimination doesnt necessary mean unfair treatment due to some prejudice! it has other meanings you know ;)

i could have used the term sexism instead if i wanted to hint to what you understood. i used sexual discrimination meaning the consideration of the differences of both sexes and acting upon it.

Of course they're different. Unless you're talking about "manly" women and "sissy" men lol.

first of all, they arent different. now the hard part is to elaborate my point since it has to do with psychology which is not my speciality nor i do have the time for it right now!
as to the second part, it's off-topic to what hinted to.

Personality is very hard to change, impossible really. As for behavior, 100% completely changeable, and principles change heaps with age and experience. A new relationship can change a lot of your prinicples.

this 100% true.

however here is the text i used:
"why would they or one of them has to change anything in her/his personality, principles, or behavior?!
arent they supposed to be at full satisfaction and harmony of and with each other in order for them to take such a decision?!"

now, where did i mention that there should not be changes in the behavior or the principles in general?!

however, these changes should occur in a spontaneous evolution by the age, and another due to day to day interaction with the partner. the latter should occur in a non-compulsory manner. it's like a deal has to be made. it's about respect, responsibilty, tolerance and sharing. it's not like both partners are bound to be identical. thats why i labeled the examples given as trivial.

These are the easiest things to change ;). Besides, everything in life is trivial if you think of it... The only big deal is treason, murder, stuff like that lol...

no you missed my point. i meant that those trivial differences should be dealt with, if have to, in a spontaneous way. this is nothing to consider and stop at.

What if they've known each other for centuries and they decide to get married at the age of 250? lol Three years bikoun ra7et 3layon! For young couples, yes I agree, it's very stupid. Early marriage is stupid too, you change so much as you grow up...

in the previous sentence i talked about early stages of partnership, so that in the following one i could mention the marriage status with a time referal in an absolute clear indication of the timeline used!
and you managed to fabricate a sarcastic joke of that!
it's not that you didnt look mahdoume with that , bass plz some more concentration would be appreciated.

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Maggie

sorry ... i am asking for sharing life with him ... i don't need a slave

he was talking in general maggie , not about you .

as i understood chief's reply i guess it was "azghar" ou "a7kam" reply .

why

a true man ( not a kid : with O experience with O prsonality with O capability of taking a decision et cetc ) a true man should know that hes the center of the relationship he control it without him their is no communication their is no love care if he did not control or if hes nt capable to do so , the relationship will be down :)
control the relationship not HER
ill explain :)

1 - a true man should know that a lady is a lady shes like a baby in his hands he should communicate with her listen to her and in her turn she shouldnt stop that communication or SAY UR TRYING TO CONTROL ME OR 3M TEKSERLE KARAMATE OR WHATEVER she should listen than react , if she ddid adore the way he communicate with her , she will stay if she felt that their is smtgh wrong she should say , sorry i cant do this OU 2EZA GHASABET 7ALA than shes stupid because their is always a choice always

2- sexual : when their is passion and love sexual wont be limited to "orgasm " only , boys can have orgasm with anyone girls 2 but that feeling that you are with your partner and ur so lucky to be with him THIS IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WHOLE world for both , so to achieve this 1 thing should be settle down : COMMUNICATION ...... when their is a communication between partners wont be anyprb . yet as cheif's said he will do everything , yes indeed he will because hes the center but being a center do nt mean that THE LADY do not exist ma hes the center for who ? for her ....

3 - so , the lady shouldnt do any sacrifices and the man kamen , they should exist , TO BE or to leave :)
to be like you are and like he is , to accept him as he is to accept you as u are BUT if what you are is a prb thats mean their is a lack of communication so girls just keep going keep walking in your life , their is always a choice another choice

u can love 12819-321-3990178391780239-[02-[193018397 time its easy very easy , but u can keep 1 and only one chance of them and its your choice , u can fail or you can success ,, believe me if u do forget that you exist for him he wont be happy satisfied and youll be always sad >

in the end :

" law 2ad ma nakarna ou 3melna sawra" , a man is a man a lady is a lady , the protesteron is higher in a man's body . the oestrogene is higher in a lady's body . what a man feel is different that lady's feelings , what a man can do a lady coudnt and if she did she will loose the fact that she is a lady !

anyway , its your choice its my choice and i cant tolerate my decision I AM A LEADER

[Arze]

Originally Posted by Maggie

being together with your partner for a long relation together and each one of you is living alone is totaly different from you both when you decide to move and live together, there are many things in both of you, cannot be discovered untill you live in one house together ... so don't tell me that you want her to stay like she used to be and never change ... this is totaly different ...

everyone of us wish that his partner stay like he loved him and never change but this doesn't mean that there are things that you will discover after living together will bother you/her ...

for example ... she doesn't like football and you love football and you have nothing to do but watching football all the time and this can bother her so much ... (me .. i hate football) what would you do?

there are small details in the relation can turn on the whole relation upside down and this is very serious and dangerous.

If he's busy watching football, turn on your laptop and open the forum

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Maggie

ok ladies let's talk frankly ... we always say that men are very demanding and men are selfish and trators and and and ...
we see many couples today getting the divorce after 2 or 3 years max of marriage ... while they were together for years before marriage.

let's talk frankly as i said before ... the problem is not always with men ... even it's not only because of men ... it's because of men and women.

maybe we don't understand their needs very well and we don't express our needs for them ... and here we enter in a big problem and in an empty circle that we both don't understand each other and don't understand our needs and we start facing the daily problems.

my question for you ladies is:
what are you ready to do for him (your partner) to make him happy?

are you ready to talk to him in every little thing that it bother you both no matter what it is ... sexual ... sentimental ... physical ... something you hate in him ... something bad in you ... anything could face you both every day?

are you ready to change anything in your personality to make him happy (akid for good)?

are you ready to forgive him if he made a mistake?

are you ready to talk to him instead of yelling and nagging and annoying him to solve a problem you faced together?

men ... you can discuss it with us too ok

I am ready to do as much as he is ready to do to make me happy .....

Am i ready to forgive if he made a mistake ?? define "mistake" please .

Originally Posted by Arze

If he's busy watching football, turn on your laptop and open the forum

this is a perfect answer

[fado]

For me its all about compromising and equality.
I am ready to do for him as much as he is ready to do for me as simple as that
As for forgiving him, like everybody else said, it depends on what kind of mistake he makes

[Aroma]

Frankly,It depends on "WHO" the other person is,and how he behaves.
If he is worth it,I would do the impossible to make him happy.

[Kakou]

what you are ready to do for him?

ANYTHING...

Aslan... I am already in and I am already doing... It's not about what I am READY to do anymore...