Saudi Arabian girl, 8 years old , seeks divorce

[Ana]

You guys need a chill pill....
- there are tribes in the amazon that live butt-a$$ naked
- in India, there are places where a woman is burned alive if her husband dies and other places where women can't remarry in case they wanted to (they'd live as slaves)
- In Africa(forgot the name of the country), Muslim women pray with their hair covered and their breasts showing!

This is not about right or wrong or black and white! This is about culture and a way of life... the guy found what he thought was a good husband for his daughter...
1 - any of you noticed that the girl still lives with her parents???
2- girls mature at around 9-10 years of age (i.e. they can reproduce at that age!)... to draw a comparison, when the baby can start eat solid food at 4 months, do you keep feeding him/her stricktly milk for 2 more years?

No one's asking you or anyone related to you to get married at the age of 8... leave people live in peace!

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Ana

You guys need a chill pill....
- there are tribes in the amazon that live butt-a$$ naked
- in India, there are places where a woman is burned alive if her husband dies and other places where women can't remarry in case they wanted to (they'd live as slaves)
- In Africa(forgot the name of the country), Muslim women pray with their hair covered and their breasts showing!

This is not about right or wrong or black and white! This is about culture and a way of life... the guy found what he thought was a good husband for his daughter...
1 - any of you noticed that the girl still lives with her parents???
2- girls mature at around 9-10 years of age (i.e. they can reproduce at that age!)... to draw a comparison, when the baby can start eat solid food at 4 months, do you keep feeding him/her stricktly milk for 2 more years?

No one's asking you or anyone related to you to get married at the age of 8... leave people live in peace!

are you serious ??????????????? OH MY GOD . do you call mature a little girl at the age of 9 or 10 ? reproduce at this age ??????????? are you serious ? do you know what pregnency means ? giving birth ? motherhood ? do you think at this age a little girl of 9 can take care of a baby and be a mother wlak she is a baby .
and what do you mean by "notice that she still live with her parents" ? until she mature ? ya3ni until she become 9 ? what sort of comment is that ?
are you trying to find exuses to this act of pedophilie ? you are comparing women praying in some weird ways or naked amazon but a$$ to this ?
why dont they burn men alive when their wifes die ? why women or little girls have to pay the price of sick weird cultures/metalities/beliefs . for God sake we are in the 21th century .

unbelievable !

i prefer to shut up here and not continue i might be very agressive so bala ma khabiss ahssan .

i will leave you live in PEACE . if you are a woman you must be thankful you are not one of those living under such sick cultures , if you are a man then wow lucky you in all sort of cultures .

[Ana]

Originally Posted by coralie

are you serious ??????????????? OH MY GOD . do you call mature a little girl at the age of 9 or 10 ? reproduce at this age ??????????? are you serious ? do you know what pregnency means ? giving birth ? motherhood ? do you think at this age a little girl of 9 can take care of a baby and be a mother wlak she is a baby .
and what do you mean by "notice that she still live with her parents" ? until she mature ? ya3ni until she become 9 ? what sort of comment is that ?
are you trying to find exuses to this act of pedophilie ? you are comparing women praying in some weird ways or naked amazon but a$$ to this ?
why dont they burn men alive when their wifes die ? why women or little girls have to pay the price of sick weird cultures/metalities/beliefs . for God sake we are in the 21th century .

unbelievable !

i prefer to shut up here and not continue i might be very agressive so bala ma khabiss ahssan .

i will leave you live in PEACE . if you are a woman you must be thankful you are not one of those living under such sick cultures , if you are a man then wow lucky you in all sort of cultures .

my question is Who are you to judge any culture? I'm not saying women should pay the price... as a matter of fact, I'm not saying anything.... I'm just saying it's that culture's way of life and it's not up to you or anyone else to judge them...

You seem to have too many "labels" to people.... My question to you is the following: Who setup the legal age for females(& males) to get married in the West to 18? And the 2nd question is who setup the "maturity/pubirty" age for females to 9?

Also, what would you say about girls that wear veil(7jeb) at the age of 9?

[Anny]

Originally Posted by coralie

are you serious ??????????????? OH MY GOD . do you call mature a little girl at the age of 9 or 10 ? reproduce at this age ??????????? are you serious ? do you know what pregnency means ? giving birth ? motherhood ? do you think at this age a little girl of 9 can take care of a baby and be a mother wlak she is a baby .
and what do you mean by "notice that she still live with her parents" ? until she mature ? ya3ni until she become 9 ? what sort of comment is that ?
are you trying to find exuses to this act of pedophilie ? you are comparing women praying in some weird ways or naked amazon but a$$ to this ?
why dont they burn men alive when their wifes die ? why women or little girls have to pay the price of sick weird cultures/metalities/beliefs . for God sake we are in the 21th century .

unbelievable !

i prefer to shut up here and not continue i might be very agressive so bala ma khabiss ahssan .

i will leave you live in PEACE . if you are a woman you must be thankful you are not one of those living under such sick cultures , if you are a man then wow lucky you in all sort of cultures .

I've taught the same as you did but I didnt say any comment because it doesnt worth to argue with men who dont have any respect to women/girls or think that we worth less than men. Anyway, I prefere talking to people who have the same respect for me as a girl as I have for them whatever sex they are. The rest, I let them talk to themselve coz I found it a headache to argue with such people. I think the next generations in the world will give more power to woman anyway. Just look in Canada what is going on in the hospitals, 80% of medical students and new doctors are women and the rest of the world is following. And everyone is attacking the system of Saudi Arabia, so one day or another, that system will fall down leaving women there with more power. Let them live the last days of their empire.

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Ana

my question is Who are you to judge any culture? I'm not saying women should pay the price... as a matter of fact, I'm not saying anything.... I'm just saying it's that culture's way of life and it's not up to you or anyone else to judge them...

You seem to have too many "labels" to people.... My question to you is the following: Who setup the legal age for females(& males) to get married in the West to 18? And the 2nd question is who setup the "maturity/pubirty" age for females to 9?

Also, what would you say about girls that wear veil(7jeb) at the age of 9?

I know I was really inocent as a 9 years old and many average girls at that age still plays with barbies and dolls and have no idea what is being sexualy active or having a kid since the brain before the age of 16 is still developing and I still considere that a kid.

I dont think its only a culture thing since Saudies are using that reason for their excuse to rape kids in my opinion.

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Ana

my question is Who are you to judge any culture? I'm not saying women should pay the price... as a matter of fact, I'm not saying anything.... I'm just saying it's that culture's way of life and it's not up to you or anyone else to judge them...

You seem to have too many "labels" to people.... My question to you is the following: Who setup the legal age for females(& males) to get married in the West to 18? And the 2nd question is who setup the "maturity/pubirty" age for females to 9?

Also, what would you say about girls that wear veil(7jeb) at the age of 9?

i am not judging any culture , but wrong is wrong , unless you find that BURNING WOMAN ALIVE is a culture .
making a woman a slave after her husbansd death a culture .

what kind of question is that , obviously you are a man . a 9 year old girl is a little baby still what ever you say or believe . if a human law say other wise this will not make it right or true . puberty is not maturity please make a difference .
puberty: Five Stages of Puberty - Girls

1 Age Range: Usually 8-11
In Stage 1 there are no outside signs of development, but a girl's ovaries are enlarging and hormone production is beginning.

2 Age Range: Usually 8-14. Average: 11-12
The first sign is typically the beginning of breast growth, including "breast buds." A girl may also grow considerable height and weight. .....................

3 Age Range: Usually 9-15. Average: 12-13
Breast growth continues, .................. Your body is still growing, and your vagina is enlarging and may begin to produce a clear or whitish discharge, which is a normal self-cleansing process. Some girls get their first menstrual periods late in this stage.

4 Age Range: Usually 10-16. Average: 13-14
....................... Underarm hair is likely to appear in this stage, as is menarche. Ovulation (release of egg cells) begins in some girls, but typically not in a regular monthly routine until Stage 5.

5 Age Range: Usually 12-19. Average: 15
This is the final stage of development, when a girl is physically an adult. Breast and ..........., and your full height is usually attained by this point. Menstrual periods are well established, and ovulation occurs monthly.

maturity :adulthood: the period of time in your life after your physical growth has stopped and you are fully developed

i hope this scientific explanation is enough for you ,.

chou khass el hijab in all this stuff ? wearing a hijab is not a violent uncivilised act . sometime i wonder how people think an jad shi mou2ssef . so the hijab is same same as giving your 8 year old daughter to a 50 year old man to ****** ???????????? ya 3ami kif am bet 7alil ?

[Ana]

Originally Posted by Anny

I know I was really inocent as a 9 years old and many average girls at that age still plays with barbies and dolls and have no idea what is being sexualy active or having a kid since the brain before the age of 16 is still developing and I still considere that a kid.

I dont think its only a culture thing since Saudies are using that reason for their excuse to rape kids in my opinion.

This is not about any personal thing.... this is culture vs. culture.... not you vs. culture....

You might have lived in a culture where people expected of you at the age of 16 to be still playing with dolls whereas some other culture at the age of 14 (I've seen it in the US with my own 2 eyes) girls get pregnant (without being married by the way!).... I've also seen a 12 year old girl high on drugs(in the modern & civilized USA!)

As for the bolded part of your post... you have a point I can't argue against because it doesn't make sense... which reason are you talking about?

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Ana

This is not about any personal thing.... this is culture vs. culture.... not you vs. culture....

You might have lived in a culture where people expected of you at the age of 16 to be still playing with dolls whereas some other culture at the age of 14 (I've seen it in the US with my own 2 eyes) girls get pregnant (without being married by the way!).... I've also seen a 12 year old girl high on drugs(in the modern & civilized USA!)

As for the bolded part of your post... you have a point I can't argue against because it doesn't make sense... which reason are you talking about?

You might have seen young girls get high on drugs or are pregnant at a young age but its mostly by their choice and not by obligation. That makes a huge difference. Between, its not well seen in the western world that a child get high on drugs or get pregnant. It is well seen in Saudie Arabia that a 8 years old get married to a man, thats another difference.

For the bolded part , the reason is : there is no good excuse to be a pervert, even if men try to fit it in a culture of a country: that is what I meant. from age 0 to 12, the world has considered that phase as a child, from 13 to 19, teenager and from 20 and over, an adult.

[Ana]

Originally Posted by coralie

i am not judging any culture , but wrong is wrong , unless you find that BURNING WOMAN ALIVE is a culture .
making a woman a slave after her husbansd death a culture .

what kind of question is that , obviously you are a man . a 9 year old girl is a little baby still what ever you say or believe . if a human law say other wise this will not make it right or true . puberty is not maturity please make a difference .
puberty: Five Stages of Puberty - Girls

1 Age Range: Usually 8-11
In Stage 1 there are no outside signs of development, but a girl's ovaries are enlarging and hormone production is beginning.

2 Age Range: Usually 8-14. Average: 11-12
The first sign is typically the beginning of breast growth, including "breast buds." A girl may also grow considerable height and weight. .....................

3 Age Range: Usually 9-15. Average: 12-13
Breast growth continues, .................. Your body is still growing, and your vagina is enlarging and may begin to produce a clear or whitish discharge, which is a normal self-cleansing process. Some girls get their first menstrual periods late in this stage.

4 Age Range: Usually 10-16. Average: 13-14
....................... Underarm hair is likely to appear in this stage, as is menarche. Ovulation (release of egg cells) begins in some girls, but typically not in a regular monthly routine until Stage 5.

5 Age Range: Usually 12-19. Average: 15
This is the final stage of development, when a girl is physically an adult. Breast and ..........., and your full height is usually attained by this point. Menstrual periods are well established, and ovulation occurs monthly.

maturity :adulthood: the period of time in your life after your physical growth has stopped and you are fully developed

i hope this scientific explanation is enough for you ,.

chou khass el hijab in all this stuff ? wearing a hijab is not a violent uncivilised act ? sometime i wonder how people think an jad shi mou2ssef . so the hijab is same same as giving your 8 year old daughter to a 50 year old man to ****** ???????????? ya 3ami kif am bet 7alil ?

Hehe.... and your point is? Didn't I raise the point that the girl was still at her parent's house? i.e. she's not having any sexual activity with the man?? You need to read more about those types cultures.... but to tell you about it in a nutshell... the father decides on a husband for the girl when she's 6,7 or 8 and she gets married (usually the boy is somewhere from 14 to 20 yrs of age)... the girl only moves in with her husband around ages of 12 to 15....

I think that, as a culture, it is far better than a culture that tolerates someone being single at 25 with 4 kids from 3 different fathers. none of which was a husband.... all the (extreme) examples I gave about the 14 yr old, the 12 yr old and the 25 yr old are things I've witnessed first hand.

[Anny]

I think that, as a culture, it is far better than a culture that tolerates someone being single at 25 with 4 kids from 3 different fathers. none of which was a husband.... all the (extreme) examples I gave about the 14 yr old, the 12 yr old and the 25 yr old are things I've witnessed first hand.[/quote]


I still disagree with you since the girl who is 25 (not married and has 4 kids from 3 different fathers) is a choice of living and not an obligation. My point is the freedom to chose and thats what women dont have in Saudie.