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i dont think we can talk about love if its in the past!!! why?! omeros said its in the past if its true love then its eternal it shouldnt die, u cant stop loving or somebody
at times freedom4ever it dies..look around you how many people are divorcing though they were in love..love isn't eternal you keep it glowing when the two of you know how to take care of it and never keep hurting one another..so when things go bad between two couples love demolishes with time..and hatred take place and fighting and parting..
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i hear "love " plus the past tense too much these days , yet i cant understand how a true love could be from the past , so here we ask :

when a love becomes from the past , can we say that it wasnt a love?
if it wasnt a love why we judge the fact in whole as a love?
and dont you think that 90% of ppl when they say i did love ya3ne they were a complete dump in love definition and they were living in a world of illusions


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LOVE is not only between 2 persons the word LOVE with all its meaning is much wider and rich than what you are trying to discribe in here .

love between 2 persons (man /woman ) is based to begin with on lust , attraction , desire .... if it is not capable to evolve in something more solid than just physical it will fade away both partners will grow apart slowly and what we call "Love" will vanish = no attraction .

i think there is outhere in this forum lots of threads talking about the same subject but under different titles .
if this so called "Love" do not evolve with respect , care , affection , attention, understanding , patience , if we disregard all the small needs of our partner if we are taken by the brouhaha of our daily life and neglect the simple aspect of our needs as a couple Love will vanish . Love is a word we use so easely but the content the meanings and the true values behind this simple word are most of the time ignored . this is what we should be talking about .

sometimes when we say "i love you" it is just an illusion the simple attraction of a moment or a periode of time it is not based on something realy deep and true . this is how LOVE in its common use this days became . just a word but nothing deep and truthfull . when love with all its meanings and values are not well known by both partners = the relation started on wrong bases it is when we say I LOVED .

when i say i loved i should analyse this love and be honest with myself was i realy in love ? (respect , intrested , understanding, care, comunication , trust , patience, affection , conssessions , mutual help ...)

some people just use this word heik bala ta3meh i was in love w hala2 khalas . i ask what do you mean i was in love ? elaborate = definition of love .
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LOVE is not only between 2 persons the word LOVE with all its meaning is much wider and rich than what you are trying to discribe in here .

love between 2 persons (man /woman ) is based to begin with on lust , attraction , desire .... if it is not capable to evolve in something more solid than just physical it will fade away both partners will grow apart slowly and what we call "Love" will vanish = no attraction .

i think there is outhere in this forum lots of threads talking about the same subject but under different titles .
if this so called "Love" do not evolve with respect , care , affection , attention, understanding , patience , if we disregard all the small needs of our partner if we are taken by the brouhaha of our daily life and neglect the simple aspect of our needs as a couple Love will vanish . Love is a word we use so easely but the content the meanings and the true values behind this simple word are most of the time ignored . this is what we should be talking about .

sometimes when we say "i love you" it is just an illusion the simple attraction of a moment or a periode of time it is not based on something realy deep and true . this is how LOVE in its common use this days became . just a word but nothing deep and truthfull . when love with all its meanings and values are not well known by both partners = the relation started on wrong bases it is when we say I LOVED .

when i say i loved i should analyse this love and be honest with myself was i realy in love ? (respect , intrested , understanding, care, comunication , trust , patience, affection , conssessions , mutual help ...)

some people just use this word heik bala ta3meh i was in love w hala2 khalas . i ask what do you mean i was in love ? elaborate = definition of love .
yes indeed love is a vast word it contain many details , thats wy i did focus on love and the i did love between man and woman , and if you can define the love between man and woman maybe i will .

for the concept of love i guess u have a thread mkaffa ou mwafa
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I myself had a love story that went on for 7 years. My love to her was so powerful that I was about to die for her and she was about to die for me. (do not misunderstand me, it was not suicide or the like but something else). The story became so complex that I would fill long pages and I won't know if it will be interesting or boring story. It ended in a very dramatic and sad way. I look back at it now and wish I did not do many things. I learnt a lot about love and the meaning of true love and the meaning of sacrifice for love. I loved her more than life and she did the same. loooooooooool. This thread opened some old wounds. I never told the true story to a creature. People know about things here and there but no one knows the true story except I and her. Da.mn.... it really opened old wounds looooooooooool.
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I myself had a love story that went on for 7 years. My love to her was so powerful that I was about to die for her and she was about to die for me. (do not misunderstand me, it was not suicide or the like but something else). The story became so complex that I would fill long pages and I won't know if it will be interesting or boring story. It ended in a very dramatic and sad way. I look back at it now and wish I did not do many things. I learnt a lot about love and the meaning of true love and the meaning of sacrifice for love. I loved her more than life and she did the same. loooooooooool. This thread opened some old wounds. I never told the true story to a creature. People know about things here and there but no one knows the true story except I and her. Da.mn.... it really opened old wounds looooooooooool.
Even when it comes to wounds you manage to "loooooooooooooool", that's a sign of courage and strenght :D. Kello raye7 lol, basita.
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Even when it comes to wounds you manage to "loooooooooooooool", that's a sign of courage and strenght :D. Kello raye7 lol, basita.
i will add it is a sign of no bitterness .
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Thank you Dalzi and Coralie. You are really both a very decent and nice persons. You know, sometimes it burns my heart that I can not tell the story not even to my own family. You feel you wanted to talk and say things but you can not. I gained a lot and lost a lot due to this love. You do not control your heart and the way I was raised and the community I hanged around with taught me courage and not to be bitter. I do not think somebody can describe love or define love. To me it is way beyond words and sentences not even if you write it with the jewels of your tears not even if you get the stars, moon and the sun to write your lines of poetry to describe love. I remember I used to start losing weight if few days pass without me holding her in my arms looooooool. yes it was that crazy loool. Yes Dalzi, killo rayi7, basita lol.


She swore she will never marry and she did not until this moment. She is a very successful girl now and she has all what any girl want but she never got married. I wish her all success and we are still friend, and very good friends, until this very moment.
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Thank you Dalzi and Coralie. You are really both a very decent and nice persons. You know, sometimes it burns my heart that I can not tell the story not even to my own family. You feel you wanted to talk and say things but you can not. I gained a lot and lost a lot due to this love. You do not control your heart and the way I was raised and the community I hanged around with taught me courage and not to be bitter. I do not think somebody can describe love or define love. To me it is way beyond words and sentences not even if you write it with the jewels of your tears not even if you get the stars, moon and the sun to write your lines of poetry to describe love. I remember I used to start losing weight if few days pass without me holding her in my arms looooooool. yes it was that crazy loool. Yes Dalzi, killo rayi7, basita lol.


She swore she will never marry and she did not until this moment. She is a very successful girl now and she has all what any girl want but she never got married. I wish her all success and we are still friend, and very good friends, until this very moment.
Wallah ya Observer, what can i say?
This is a very sad story and i don't know why u left , but i don't think there is any reason which could be stronger than such love
For example, i was once in love and i couldn't stay with the one i had loved because he's dead
I can tell you that i get over it and continue my life but with a big fear from the death.. and i can tell you that till now, i couldn't have a relationship and still single, not because i didn't forget him, but because i'm always afraid to lose the ones i love (my children, my husband...) cz it hurts

Bass kamen looool, as u said
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Wallah ya Observer, what can i say?
This is a very sad story and i don't know why u left , but i don't think there is any reason which could be stronger than such love
For example, i was once in love and i couldn't stay with the one i had loved because he's dead
I can tell you that i get over it and continue my life but with a big fear from the death.. and i can tell you that till now, i couldn't have a relationship and still single, not because i didn't forget him, but because i'm always afraid to lose the ones i love (my children, my husband...) cz it hurts

Bass kamen looool, as u said
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Wallah ya Observer, what can i say?
This is a very sad story and i don't know why u left , but i don't think there is any reason which could be stronger than such love
For example, i was once in love and i couldn't stay with the one i had loved because he's dead
I can tell you that i get over it and continue my life but with a big fear from the death.. and i can tell you that till now, i couldn't have a relationship and still single, not because i didn't forget him, but because i'm always afraid to lose the ones i love (my children, my husband...) cz it hurts

Bass kamen looool, as u said
It was indeed a very sad story. It took me a year to get myself back into shape and 3 years to fix the damage that has been done. you might think that there will not be a reason more powerful than this kind of love except death but you won't know those reasons until you live them. I lived them, she lived them and things became so complicated that we are left with no choice. We both realized that there will be no future together - except a complicated and sad one - and kept denying it for long time until she could not take it anymore and I did not understand first until later on when sense started to come into my mind. It was not a family issue (even though it was a partial reason even a small one). It was something that started as an adventure then got complicated and dangerous and got to the point of life and death then things spiraled downward into an abyss when all other things got factored in and became entangled to a point of no return. (do not get me wrong, it is was not drugs or the like). I appreciate the positive comments of all those who are commenting and showing interest. It really is very encouraging to have people understanding.

and yes it is a lool Naylah. You have now a husband and children and these mean life for you now. The world keeps revolving and does not stop even if we do.
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