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Well, we should not confuse between what are our intentions and what is really possible.
Maybe your intention is to love only 1 man/woman, but that doesnt mean that loving more than one person is impossible.
Our society is that way, if you love one person then you should love and stay with only that person and noone else. I am not saying it is bad, but in contrary, it is good. However, what I am trying to say is that, if our way of living was different, that is if there was no problem in loving more than one person at the same time (if it is not really a taboo dunno if i should call it that way , as many might think), you would understand more of what i am saying.

Anywayz, as I said... it is really possible, more than possible.
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I dont claim to be an expert on love, but theres nothing within any of the millions of definitions of love that say that a requirement to feel love is that it is directed to one person.

Characterisitcs within the definition of love are things like:

Honesty
Having things in common
Being opposites
Being exactly the same
Trust
etc...

There are many more, but I think you can see my point. All of the above or anythign else one can add to that list can be felt from one person to two others.

i.e. you can be honest to two ppl. have thigns in common with two ppl. have trust between two ppl and so forth and so on.....

From this point of view...its possible...

Heres another thing...

If you can hate two different people... you can surely love two different people. ;)
I'm gonna copyright that.

SOOOOO TRUE!

Stella! I am afraid I have to agree with the Blue Mod here! :P:D

BUT!

What if you are like me and cannot HATE! I cannot claim that I hate.... I might say the word, use it, and dwell upon it... but then... when it comes down to business... I am sure that I cannot hate anyone...

Maybe then... I cannot love either :S OW GOD! I might need therapy after this! :P:D
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SOOOOO TRUE!

Stella! I am afraid I have to agree with the Blue Mod here! :P:D

BUT!

What if you are like me and cannot HATE! I cannot claim that I hate.... I might say the word, use it, and dwell upon it... but then... when it comes down to business... I am sure that I cannot hate anyone...

Maybe then... I cannot love either :S OW GOD! I might need therapy after this! :P:D
OP and Abir, why shall we draw an equatation between love and hate in this sense? They are completely different feelings, while hate is something destructive (mainly self-destructive) and shows only weakness, love is positive and bears power. So when you say Abir that you can not hate, it shows only your strength

But seriously guys, when you truly love someone, why on earth would you need someone else in addition?? Arent you questioning here the very foundations of true love as humans percieve it?

And Coldplayer, your version I think would need an alien for sure, that didnt sound too human:p:D
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And Coldplayer, your version I think would need an alien for sure, that didnt sound too human:p:D
laaaaaa ktir hek. lol
tab let me make it so simple, since you don't understand the language of aliens . We all can love more than once. If you really agree with that, I don't see why we cannot love 2 persons at the same time.
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laaaaaa ktir hek. lol
tab let me make it so simple, since you don't understand the language of aliens . We all can love more than once. If you really agree with that, I don't see why we cannot love 2 persons at the same time.
So whos the alien, you or me?

I dont see why we could love two persons at a time!
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OP and Abir, why shall we draw an equatation between love and hate in this sense? They are completely different feelings, while hate is something destructive (mainly self-destructive) and shows only weakness, love is positive and bears power.
Hate is powerful too! It is consuming in a sense, but very powerful!!!! Why do we draw the equation between love and hate? Maybe because they are antonyms! The opposite of each other!

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So when you say Abir that you can not hate, it shows only your strength
Thank You! Thank you very much! (said in a KING ELVIS way!)

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But seriously guys, when you truly love someone, why on earth would you need someone else in addition??
Cause we are greedy!!!! YEAH! That's it! We are greedy!!!! :P:D (I am just kidding)-- Maybe cause we cannot decide! There might be certain qualities in this person that we desire in a partner, and other qualities in the other person that are desirable, and we simply cannot choose!

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Arent you questioning here the very foundations of true love as humans percieve it?
AH! But who is the human you are addressing here? Me? You? or Coldplayer!!! :P:D:P:D:P:D!!!! (It is definitely not Osiris -- LOOOOL) :P:D (I hope he never reads this!)
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If we redefine love again :

we are all here internet users : ya3ni I think most of us are young .. ya3ni from 15 yrs old to 40-45-even 50 ... but my point is that

we maybe young that we are not able define what love is , and still what we are experiencing are crushes and affections and could high level of likeness and of course trust...etc.

Love could be different.. Maybe all of the above can be sensed with different people at the same time but when your heart skips a beat when you see your loved one these are traces of love...
I can say to know if you love this someone at least you should spend away from your partner the same time you spend with. And if you still feel the same then you are already in LOVE. GO grab him or her before it is too late..
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Hate is powerful too! It is consuming in a sense, but very powerful!!!! Why do we draw the equation between love and hate? Maybe because they are antonyms! The opposite of each others
I think the opposite of love is rather the lack of love, what is more stronger than hate, hate is very very weak compared to love.


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Cause we are greedy!!!! YEAH! That's it! We are greedy!!!! :P:D (I am just kidding)-- Maybe cause we cannot decide! There might be certain qualities in this person that we desire in a partner, and other qualities in the other person that are desirable, and we simply cannot choose!
But Abir we are talking here about love and not attraction, when you are in love you supposed to see your loved one in complete perfection. Or am I too naive here?


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AH! But who is the human you are addressing here? Me? You? or Coldplayer!!! :P:D:P:D:P:D!!!! (It is definitely not Osiris -- LOOOOL) :P:D (I hope he never reads this!)
Haha lol Osi wont read this for sure, but in case he reads it indeed he may not take it to heart, as he himself keeps telling us how weird he is.:D:D Just like we, and so extra-terrestrial in addition!:p:D:D
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OP and Abir, why shall we draw an equatation between love and hate in this sense? They are completely different feelings, while hate is something destructive (mainly self-destructive) and shows only weakness, love is positive and bears power. So when you say Abir that you can not hate, it shows only your strength
Hate to sound cliched but you know what they say: "Love and hate are one and the same"....or...."hand in hand"...or "the opposite side of the same coin."

Without one the other would not exist. [we run the risk of running and moving into the philosophical]

Sometimes, they also say, our extreme expressions of hate only show how much we love.

intense love---> negative event ---> disapointment---> intense anger --->intense hate.

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But seriously guys, when you truly love someone, why on earth would you need someone else in addition?? Arent you questioning here the very foundations of true love as humans percieve it?
Our perceptions of love arent as homogenous as you think. Different societies not only would have differing understanding and mechanics of love but will also go as far as laughing at or CONDEMNING our own perceptions.

The "why" , again, could have many possible explanations. I would like to stress on the last one i offered again.

Propoerties that we attribute to a 1 on 1 relationship can easily apply to another 1 on 1 relationship without contradicting the first.

It is not a neccesity.Just a possibility. If anyone was to take this theory further, I think it is important to add that it is also a matter of fate.

A person already in love with one....may never encouter another person where those properties can apply between them.

We do acknowledge generally that meeting those properties is hard enough in one relationship. Perhaps the odds of succeeding in meeting those properties A SECOND TIME are so low that the success rate is almost not seen. Yea3ne...the odds of finding ONE person to meet the specific and complicated needs between two ppl are so low....that the odds of doing it a second time are almost zero.

And so we barely see someone that loves two. And so we have come to assume that it is not possible...It does not exist.
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Hate to sound cliched but you know what they say: "Love and hate are one and the same"....or...."hand in hand"...or "the opposite side of the same coin."

Without one the other would not exist. [we run the risk of running and moving into the philosophical]

Sometimes, they also say, our extreme expressions of hate only show how much we love.

intense love---> negative event ---> disapointment---> intense anger --->intense hate.
You know dear I never believed in these cliches, I am too non-comformist to believe in such categorization. So as I said, the opposite of love is the lack of love. Think about it, and you realize which is worse, someone who is full of hate, or someone who "has got no heart".

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Our perceptions of love arent as homogenous as you think. Different societies not only would have differing understanding and mechanics of love but will also go as far as laughing at or CONDEMNING our own perceptions.

The "why" , again, could have many possible explanations. I would like to stress on the last one i offered again.

Propoerties that we attribute to a 1 on 1 relationship can easily apply to another 1 on 1 relationship without contradicting the first.

It is not a neccesity.Just a possibility. If anyone was to take this theory further, I think it is important to add that it is also a matter of fate.

A person already in love with one....may never encouter another person where those properties can apply between them.

We do acknowledge generally that meeting those properties is hard enough in one relationship. Perhaps the odds of succeeding in meeting those properties A SECOND TIME are so low that the success rate is almost not seen. Yea3ne...the odds of finding ONE person to meet the specific and complicated needs between two ppl are so low....that the odds of doing it a second time are almost zero.

And so we barely see someone that loves two. And so we have come to assume that it is not possible...It does not exist.
wow and you are talking about going into philosophics?
Maybe I am too earth-bound in my thinking, but for me one person to love would be just enough at a time
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