Atheists, how do you view them?

[mount_amel]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

gays? premarital sex? abortion?

These are contreversial issues and still under debate globally. When we finalize a decision then we can include them as fixed under ethics.

[Abufijli]

Live and let live.....

It is really not my problem what you believe or do not believe in, even though I hold my views about their non belief, yet I could not see why I would treat them any differently to anyone else.

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Mona Lisa

I said that I will not judge and condemn and respect their choice sure BUT in my opnion it is wrong ..

I can have an opinion or cant I?

sorry bas i dont define the opinion like that .... the opinion is nt :right or wrong: the opinion abt a subject is how you see it and when you did say : this is right this is wrong ya3ne u did judge on the whole issue and ur conclusion is righ or is wrong ma fi 7al wasat ! or having a reflexion is different and when you have a reflexion about a subject miss you wont allow to urself to say : this is right : cz u do know that your point of view isnt the same as others .. men hal montala2 i dont give my opinion i say : take care : i dont say what is wrong and what is right cz in fact their is no good and bad their is a context !
its like : 7eb l nes ou 3ich 3a zaw2ak ... ya3ne love everyone = dont hurt anyone and live as u feel its a way of ur happinesses if you feel that god or beliving in him give u a + energy let it be if you think that atheism is + let it be .... if you feel that sex with your lover (if she \he did accept) is a + energy let it be .... if you feel that being a gay with a gay make u happy let it be but with abortion its another story cz its killing a baby

[Inanna]

atheists are those in deep and real search for God!

[chafic]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

The total opposite....

Quite a frank opinion. Thank you.

[chafic]

Originally Posted by Omeros

sorry bas i dont define the opinion like that .... the opinion is nt :right or wrong: the opinion abt a subject is how you see it and when you did say : this is right this is wrong ya3ne u did judge on the whole issue and ur conclusion is righ or is wrong ma fi 7al wasat ! or having a reflexion is different and when you have a reflexion about a subject miss you wont allow to urself to say : this is right : cz u do know that your point of view isnt the same as others .. men hal montala2 i dont give my opinion i say : take care : i dont say what is wrong and what is right cz in fact their is no good and bad their is a context !
its like : 7eb l nes ou 3ich 3a zaw2ak ... ya3ne love everyone = dont hurt anyone and live as u feel its a way of ur happinesses if you feel that god or beliving in him give u a + energy let it be if you think that atheism is + let it be .... if you feel that sex with your lover (if she \he did accept) is a + energy let it be .... if you feel that being a gay with a gay make u happy let it be but with abortion its another story cz its killing a baby

Actually Mona Lisa is right. It's very normal for anyone to judge things as right or wrong as long as there's no compelling, or discrimination.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by der FPBer

exactly dalzi. though your attitude dont reflect this very opinion of yours , but that's the way everyone should at least think/bear in mind. and then, self-control and right behavior should automatically follow.

I have no right to judge you as a person, you could be a million times better than any believer. I'm very far from being intolerant towards atheists. It's immorality that I can't tolerate; that could come from anyone.

we the lebanese always seek somthing to fight over. not in a single moment in the lebanese history were the lebanse united over just one simple idea!!

but that intolerence is the real problem, and not the difference in beliefs and principles! we have to learn become tolerant and self-controlable and then accepting different opinions irrespective in what category they fall in!

When you talk talk talk and feel that you're talking to a brick wall, you lose patience. When people flip flop bi laili ma fiya daw 2amar, you feel like breaking their skulls :D. We all have our moments, we disagree on many points but also agree on others. Such is humanity.

I wouldn't want someone I care for to be an atheist for no reason other than i'm a believer. So you would talk, only talk to people you care for, balke Allah byihdiyon.

إِنَّكَ لَا تَهْدِي مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ وَلَكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
وَالَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِآيَاتِنَا صُمٌّ وَبُكْمٌ فِي الظُّلُمَاتِ مَن يَشَإِ اللّهُ يُضْلِلْهُ وَمَن يَشَأْ يَجْعَلْهُ عَلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ

But of course if they tell me to shut up, i'd do so :D.

Originally Posted by Danny Z

gays? premarital sex? abortion?

Atheist trademarks? What does atheism have to do with gays and all those up there? I know atheists who are more intolerant than I am to what i call moral decadence.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by chafic

Quite a frank opinion. Thank you.

You said they're more enlightened than believers. I as a believer naturally believe that a believer is more enlightened than an atheist. Did you expect otherwise? If I think that you're more enlightened, i'd denounce faith and seek the light from its sourse; normal attitude... wallah shou?

[chafic]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

You said they're more enlightened than believers. I as a believer naturally believe that a believer is more enlightened than an atheist. Did you expect otherwise? If I think that you're more enlightened, i'd denounce faith and seek the light from its sourse; normal attitude... wallah shou?

I was not being sarcastic. I meant what I said.

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by chafic

Actually Mona Lisa is right. It's very normal for anyone to judge things as right or wrong as long as there's no compelling, or discrimination.

actually if u said so ... 7a 2elak that you and her are right ? you have to prove it chafic .... as i did !