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Originally Posted by goatlord No man, you can ONLY WISH Lebanon was Dubai and had an economy like Dubai. The real face of Lebanon right now is a picture of the empty rotten tents in downtown. | What I like about you is that if we say that we don't like to eat s***, you will say that you LOVE s***, and probably would add sauce on it.  | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by goatlord No man, you can ONLY WISH Lebanon was Dubai and had an economy like Dubai. The real face of Lebanon right now is a picture of the empty rotten tents in downtown. | can you tackle the issue we are looking at and spare us your denial and psychological desorders ???
we are dealing with the destruction of our heritage and this is the best you can come up with ?? | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by Genius What is to be blamed is the capitalists completely controlling and running the govt. Back to the feudal problem.
Western countries have strict rules by govt which are ruled by normal people ... Even Microsoft and Bill Gates in the US abide by the rules and loose judicial cases (and this is a country rules by capitalists ....)
the disasters are numerous and repetitive, what is needed is awarness and education to the people that cannot break free from sectarian feudality ...
We need another Ottoman empire .. Funny that Beirut had all the charm from their Era, the french refused to "develop" the country !!! I ll try to dig out the documents i had about the architecture of Beirut ... | Like CPL said some posts back, don't expect corporations to have moral values, let alone care for heritage or patrimonial assets. It has nothing to do with feudalism or sectarianism.
In every country in the world, corporations think basically the same way, here in Lebanon, we expect the government and officials to hold those corporations accountable whereas it's up to the people as moral agents to make both their government and corporations accountable.
Don't be fooled by the Ottomans or any colonial entity Genius, they also destroyed many shrines and historical landmarks at the time and not only in Beirut. The French pretty much exported their own colonial architecture all over the world. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by fidelio Like CPL said some posts back, don't expect corporations to have moral values, let alone care for heritage or patrimonial assets. It has nothing to do with feudalism or sectarianism.
In every country in the world, corporations think basically the same way, here in Lebanon, we expect the government and officials to hold those corporations accountable whereas it's up to the people as moral agents to make both their government and corporations accountable.
Don't be fooled by the Ottomans or any colonial entity Genius, they also destroyed many shrines and historical landmarks at the time and not only in Beirut. The French pretty much imported their own colonial architecture all over the world. | Agree about the lack of ethics in corporations worldwide ... The only problem is that the owners of these corporations in Lebanon and other poor countries also run the country .. thats all, therefore no limit can be drawn to their hungry teeth ... they change the laws accordign to the corporations and not the other way around
I was being sarcastic about the ottomans !! however, some truth to it, m not sur we deserve any better ... I am not sure we have any better right now | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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wlek who cares???? Rafic el hariri is rebuilding beirut , isnt this more than enoughhh???
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Hariri's Solidere Demolishes Beirut's Last Jewish Buildings Dr. Joseph Hitti
March 20, 2008
Saad Hariri, the much flaunted US ally in the Lebanese corrupt political and financial establishment, has finally laid his hands on the last architectural gems of pre-war Beirut. Not to preserve them, turn them into a Museum, and definitely not to return them to their rightful owners. But to demolish them and turn them into yet another disgusting skyscraper in which to house more corrupt businesses beholden to the Hariri empire and its company Solidere.
What happened the other day is but one of the last examples of how the late Rafik Hariri - the "great martyr" of the March 14 Cedars Revolution, better known as the former pro-Syrian collaborator prime minister of Lebanon who licked the Syrian regime's occupier boots as long as they let him seize all of downtown Beirut (in exchange for massive bribes and kickbacks) and turn it into his own Solidere company, without any consideration for Beirut's ancient Roman and Phoenician pasts, building a huge mosque right next to St. George's Maronite cathedral just for spite - like his Palestinian Sunni brethren did in Bethlehem with the Church of the Nativity.
Except now, it's his son, the half-Saudi, half-Lebanese hybrid Saad, who inherited this empire that was pilfered from every ordinary owner of real estate in downtown Beirut. And in one of the most egregious crimes against Beirut's historic legacy, Saad Hariri just tore down the last three standing Jewish buildings in Beirut's old Wadi Abu-Jmil district, gems of Beirut's 19th century architecture.
As architect Amine-Jules Iskandar describes the scene in a letter he sent to the Lebanese French-language daily L'Orient Le Jour, those three buildings were "classified" (i.e. protected as historic landmarks) and are now no more than a pile of debris.
To add insult to injury, it appears that Saad's father, "martyr" Rafik Hariri waited for all the media to rush to Cana the day after the massacre in April 1996, to launch Solidere's bulldozers into Wadi Abu-Jmil to demolish a dozen or so "protected" buildings. Samir Kassir, the other "martyr" journalist, could only at the time deplore the loss of those magnificent witnesses of Beirut's architectural heritage upon his return from Cana. Three buildings had survived because they abutted the ancient synagogue of Beirut.
Today Saad Hariri is doing it again, in the tradition of his "great" father. While the country is in a deep economic and political crisis, and people are worried more than ever about their future, Saad Hariri felt he could complete his father's "achievement" stealthily while no one was watching. Solidere's bulldozers came the other day and discreetly tore down the last three buildings. Today, there is a sign in the area forbidding anyone to get near the site with a camera.
In architect Iskandar's own words: "We are witnessing impotently the disappearance of our architectural, cultural and identity heritage. These buildings represented the last vestiges of an era that was the golden age of the Beirut Jewish community."
In contrast, the legacy of Rafik Hariri, and his son, Saad Hariri, will be to have altered Beirut's history in the cheapest, sleaziest, in-your-face, uncultured mercantilism so typical of the Hariri family's Arab Mediterranean background, doubled by an equally tacky, oil-slick, fascist and fundamentalist Sunni Islam of Saudi vintage. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/55813 | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by erzallubnan SO WHY THE FUSS about this topic, arent we wasting our time here?
Venom what makes you sure the Lebanese jews are attached to lebanon more than Israel? do you have any proof? What I know from reliable sources that during the war btw LF & the LA the Leb jews left in Leb sided with LF and provided them with Logistics. | before geagea rule, the LF were the lebanese patriotic resistance and gathered christians, muslims and jews. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by erzallubnan SO WHY THE FUSS about this topic, arent we wasting our time here?
Venom what makes you sure the Lebanese jews are attached to lebanon more than Israel? do you have any proof? What I know from reliable sources that during the war btw LF & the LA the Leb jews left in Leb sided with LF and provided them with Logistics. | I am not entirely sure of the piece of information you volunteered here, but regardless, because we differ politically with our compatriots, that allows us to eradicate the rich history they and their ancestor had in Lebanon?
You are very easily forgetting that most are fully fledged Lebanese citizens, pretty much like you and I, and have full rights under the Lebanese law.
What would you say if I happen to be more powerful thant you and I eradicate any bldg your family ever lived in? | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Haruun Hariri's Solidere Demolishes Beirut's Last Jewish Buildings Dr. Joseph Hitti
March 20, 2008
Saad Hariri, the much flaunted US ally in the Lebanese corrupt political and financial establishment, has finally laid his hands on the last architectural gems of pre-war Beirut. Not to preserve them, turn them into a Museum, and definitely not to return them to their rightful owners. But to demolish them and turn them into yet another disgusting skyscraper in which to house more corrupt businesses beholden to the Hariri empire and its company Solidere.
What happened the other day is but one of the last examples of how the late Rafik Hariri - the "great martyr" of the March 14 Cedars Revolution, better known as the former pro-Syrian collaborator prime minister of Lebanon who licked the Syrian regime's occupier boots as long as they let him seize all of downtown Beirut (in exchange for massive bribes and kickbacks) and turn it into his own Solidere company, without any consideration for Beirut's ancient Roman and Phoenician pasts, building a huge mosque right next to St. George's Maronite cathedral just for spite - like his Palestinian Sunni brethren did in Bethlehem with the Church of the Nativity.
Except now, it's his son, the half-Saudi, half-Lebanese hybrid Saad, who inherited this empire that was pilfered from every ordinary owner of real estate in downtown Beirut. And in one of the most egregious crimes against Beirut's historic legacy, Saad Hariri just tore down the last three standing Jewish buildings in Beirut's old Wadi Abu-Jmil district, gems of Beirut's 19th century architecture.
As architect Amine-Jules Iskandar describes the scene in a letter he sent to the Lebanese French-language daily L'Orient Le Jour, those three buildings were "classified" (i.e. protected as historic landmarks) and are now no more than a pile of debris.
To add insult to injury, it appears that Saad's father, "martyr" Rafik Hariri waited for all the media to rush to Cana the day after the massacre in April 1996, to launch Solidere's bulldozers into Wadi Abu-Jmil to demolish a dozen or so "protected" buildings. Samir Kassir, the other "martyr" journalist, could only at the time deplore the loss of those magnificent witnesses of Beirut's architectural heritage upon his return from Cana. Three buildings had survived because they abutted the ancient synagogue of Beirut.
Today Saad Hariri is doing it again, in the tradition of his "great" father. While the country is in a deep economic and political crisis, and people are worried more than ever about their future, Saad Hariri felt he could complete his father's "achievement" stealthily while no one was watching. Solidere's bulldozers came the other day and discreetly tore down the last three buildings. Today, there is a sign in the area forbidding anyone to get near the site with a camera.
In architect Iskandar's own words: "We are witnessing impotently the disappearance of our architectural, cultural and identity heritage. These buildings represented the last vestiges of an era that was the golden age of the Beirut Jewish community."
In contrast, the legacy of Rafik Hariri, and his son, Saad Hariri, will be to have altered Beirut's history in the cheapest, sleaziest, in-your-face, uncultured mercantilism so typical of the Hariri family's Arab Mediterranean background, doubled by an equally tacky, oil-slick, fascist and fundamentalist Sunni Islam of Saudi vintage. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/55813 |
Joseph was a strong FPM leader activist until MOU showed up. he had critisized Aoun quite often lately on Bejjani's trashsite. Although I am happy to see that he didn't get bought out as he is clearly not pro-feb14 now. although his logic against the MOU raises concerns but doesn't totally add up, he at least beleives in it and is not paid to say it. chapeau bas. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Haruun Hariri's Solidere Demolishes Beirut's Last Jewish Buildings Dr. Joseph Hitti
March 20, 2008
Saad Hariri, the much flaunted US ally in the Lebanese corrupt political and financial establishment, has finally laid his hands on the last architectural gems of pre-war Beirut. Not to preserve them, turn them into a Museum, and definitely not to return them to their rightful owners. But to demolish them and turn them into yet another disgusting skyscraper in which to house more corrupt businesses beholden to the Hariri empire and its company Solidere.
What happened the other day is but one of the last examples of how the late Rafik Hariri - the "great martyr" of the March 14 Cedars Revolution, better known as the former pro-Syrian collaborator prime minister of Lebanon who licked the Syrian regime's occupier boots as long as they let him seize all of downtown Beirut (in exchange for massive bribes and kickbacks) and turn it into his own Solidere company, without any consideration for Beirut's ancient Roman and Phoenician pasts, building a huge mosque right next to St. George's Maronite cathedral just for spite - like his Palestinian Sunni brethren did in Bethlehem with the Church of the Nativity.
Except now, it's his son, the half-Saudi, half-Lebanese hybrid Saad, who inherited this empire that was pilfered from every ordinary owner of real estate in downtown Beirut. And in one of the most egregious crimes against Beirut's historic legacy, Saad Hariri just tore down the last three standing Jewish buildings in Beirut's old Wadi Abu-Jmil district, gems of Beirut's 19th century architecture.
As architect Amine-Jules Iskandar describes the scene in a letter he sent to the Lebanese French-language daily L'Orient Le Jour, those three buildings were "classified" (i.e. protected as historic landmarks) and are now no more than a pile of debris.
To add insult to injury, it appears that Saad's father, "martyr" Rafik Hariri waited for all the media to rush to Cana the day after the massacre in April 1996, to launch Solidere's bulldozers into Wadi Abu-Jmil to demolish a dozen or so "protected" buildings. Samir Kassir, the other "martyr" journalist, could only at the time deplore the loss of those magnificent witnesses of Beirut's architectural heritage upon his return from Cana. Three buildings had survived because they abutted the ancient synagogue of Beirut.
Today Saad Hariri is doing it again, in the tradition of his "great" father. While the country is in a deep economic and political crisis, and people are worried more than ever about their future, Saad Hariri felt he could complete his father's "achievement" stealthily while no one was watching. Solidere's bulldozers came the other day and discreetly tore down the last three buildings. Today, there is a sign in the area forbidding anyone to get near the site with a camera.
In architect Iskandar's own words: "We are witnessing impotently the disappearance of our architectural, cultural and identity heritage. These buildings represented the last vestiges of an era that was the golden age of the Beirut Jewish community."
In contrast, the legacy of Rafik Hariri, and his son, Saad Hariri, will be to have altered Beirut's history in the cheapest, sleaziest, in-your-face, uncultured mercantilism so typical of the Hariri family's Arab Mediterranean background, doubled by an equally tacky, oil-slick, fascist and fundamentalist Sunni Islam of Saudi vintage. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/55813 | Who is Dr hitti?
If these buildings were classified .. This is a crime against our heritage .. OUR heritage and not theirs .. !! | | | |  | | |
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