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Now we are talking. They have been brainwashing the people for 3 years and wiping out people's memory. now it is time to start reversing the damage. My suggestion: hit them hard and do as much propaganda as you can because this is feb 14 only weapon: propaganda. they have nothign else to show for.
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I think it would be better if OTV could focus on problems (corruption, bad decisions) that took place during the Haririan governance, tackling specific issues such as the electricity, the reconstruction costs, bad economic decisions (indebtedness...), corruption and mismanagement of public institutions...

I think the majority of Lebanese already know the relation of Hariri with the Syrians (at least those of a certain age), and probably that's an exhausted subject. Spotting the light on such issues would attract a wider audience, and of course, it's beneficial by itself as means for awareness (if prepared in a professional way).

But, unfortunately in Lebanon that does not hurt as much as mentioning the Syrians!!!

I actually suggest a better episode on the relation between Saad And Prince Mokrin from the Saudi Intelligence. That maybe should start from the picture of Saad just behind him as a body guard in Pakistan escorting Shareef out of Pakistan on the order of the Saudi king.
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yes they had a good relation. the syrian army was in lebanon and RH couldnt do anything about it, i mean what would you have him do! launch a war against them ? your general tried it and he didnt last an hour.

he approved their presence at that time but he planned to get syria out gradually as nasralla once said on otv.

and i think this is why they killed him.
Could not do anything to it (Syrian pressence) is one thing and supporting them and get support from is something else. i defy you to get me one name for one sunni leader who was empowered by the syrians more than hariri and I defy you to give me the name of one sunni leader who received from the syrians more than Hariri. But you are all brainwashed with a short memory.
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All of this does can not deny 2 facts:

1. Syria is most improbably implicated in killing Hariri

2. Aoun after 2005 has convergence of interest with Syria and Syrian allies in Lebanon.

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plz stop... 7atbakkeene
houleh el-dmou3 te3iitak..rouh zrefoun had al-darih ..it's better for u no?
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All of this does can not deny 2 facts:

1. Syria is most improbably implicated in killing Hariri
I happen to agree

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2. Aoun after 2005 has convergence of interest with Syria and Syrian allies in Lebanon.
Thats a major improvement from: Aoun is a Syrian lackey brought to backstabb the hummos revolution blablabla...
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All of this does can not deny 2 facts:

1. Syria is most improbably implicated in killing Hariri

2. Aoun after 2005 has convergence of interest with Syria and Syrian allies in Lebanon.

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You're right ! Hariri and Jumblatt on one side, and Aoun on another side, switched sides in their alliances. In politics, nothing surprises us anymore.
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You're right ! Hariri and Jumblatt on one side, and Aoun on another side, switched sides in their alliances. In politics, nothing surprises us anymore.
if this is one of the explanations that help you put your psyche to ease, so be it.

please, feel very free to pretend all you want, your wishes wont become reality.

the truth of the matter will always remain that some are men of honor, while others have no honor.

it is as simple as that.
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I think it would be better if OTV could focus on problems (corruption, bad decisions) that took place during the Haririan governance, tackling specific issues such as the electricity, the reconstruction costs, bad economic decisions (indebtedness...), corruption and mismanagement of public institutions...

I think the majority of Lebanese already know the relation of Hariri with the Syrians (at least those of a certain age), and probably that's an exhausted subject. Spotting the light on such issues would attract a wider audience, and of course, it's beneficial by itself as means for awareness (if prepared in a professional way).
Fully agree with you Chafic. In the words of Mahatma Ghandi "an eye for an eye, and the world goes blind"

I would like to add though that OTV should focus not only on "problems that took place during the Haririan governance" but more importantly on SOLUTIONS to the "problems that took place during the Haririan governance." I, along with many other Lebanese, am fed up with accusations and counter-accusations that do nothing but exacerbate the overall situation in the country.

In a nutshell, anyone can locate problems, the challenge is to promote new ideas and solutions to pre-existing problems. That is the direction towards which OTV and FPM in general ought to be channeling their energy instead.

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Fully agree with you Chafic. In the words of Mahatma Ghandi "an eye for an eye, and the world goes blind"

I would like to add though that OTV should focus not only on "problems that took place during the Haririan governance" but more importantly on SOLUTIONS to the "problems that took place during the Haririan governance." I, along with many other Lebanese, am fed up with accusations and counter-accusations that do nothing but exacerbate the overall situation in the country.

In a nutshell, anyone can locate problems, the challenge is to promote new ideas and solutions to pre-existing problems. That is the direction towards which OTV and FPM in general ought to be channeling their energy instead.

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Ya Muwatin,

This is not about just accusations and counter accusations, its about certain group crossing this line with their attacks and now there is no turning back.
GMA & FPM are attacked on daily bases by everyone, and be fair, unlike any other group. Enough is enough. Solutions to the problems will be discussed when there is a real gov representing the people of Lebanon.
 

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