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There is no ignorance in my post. And no it's not likely to be the truth bc a main pillar of the opposition called FPM does not apply to what Berri spoke off.

if by any chance Syria and KSA come to an understanding, will u see FPM dropping all its demands? if so, then u basically believe FPM is a puppet to Syria, and hence I have nothing further to discuss with u.
Excuse me,but there is a big rate of ignorance in your post.
With all due respect to FPM and all its policies,the whole game being played on our scene is much bigger than Aoun or Fpm or anyone else,or else why haven't FPM managed to find a solution for our deadlock till now?tell me:)
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My interest is correlating with that of the Asad regime. So if one's interests correlate with that of the other, then s/he's a slave to that other? Or does he automatically become more concerned about another country more than his own?
this question also becomes viable for the loyalists and the US. If it goes for one then it goes for another.
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this question also becomes viable for the loyalists and the US. If it goes for one then it goes for another.
Great, so the loyalists' interest is the same as that of America and Israel, i.e. fastening their grip over the country and enslaving it to their demands. Therefore, they are slaves.
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My interest is correlating with that of the Asad regime. So if one's interests correlate with that of the other, then s/he's a slave to that other? Or does he automatically become more concerned about another country more than his own?
who said anything about him being a slave? He truly believes his interests and those of his party lie with the Assad regime. he is doing it out of conviction, so no he is not a slave, a puppet perhaps.

As for the last comment, I already believe I answered it. He sees his interests and those of Lebanon if we want to go a bit farther correlating with those of the Assad regime. Many feel the contrary and want nothing to do with Syria except normal relations between the 2 countries.
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Berri's statement will sure sound awkward if one thinks the whole problem revolves around the ministerial selection of the next cabinet, but unfortunately, there's bigger regional problems than that. Our small Lebanese disagreements are just details and I'm sure Berri was not thinking about the Aoun/Hariri/Gemayel/Moussa meeting when he said what he said.
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Great, so the loyalists' interest is the same as that of America and Israel, i.e. fastening their grip over the country and enslaving it to their demands. Therefore, they are slaves.
what im saying is that if they are slaves then the opposition are also slaves.
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who said anything about him being a slave? He truly believes his interests and those of his party lie with the Assad regime. he is doing it out of conviction, so no he is not a slave, a puppet perhaps.
I told you, we also believe that our interests correlate with that of the Asad regime. Refer to 4U's post.

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As for the last comment, I already believe I answered it. He sees his interests and those of Lebanon if we want to go a bit farther correlating with those of the Assad regime.
Each party sees the matter from a different angle, if we were to see it from your perspective, we would've been FPMers.

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No one wants other than this except the loyalists who want war.
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Excuse me,but there is a big rate of ignorance in your post.
With all due respect to FPM and all its policies,the whole game being played on our scene is much bigger than Aoun or Fpm or anyone else,or else why haven't FPM managed to find a solution for our deadlock till now?tell me:)
having different perspectives doesn't mean there is ignorance.

FPM is only one party, and GMA is only one man. FPM alone can solve nothing. FPM is offering possible solutions that require all sides to agree on them in order for the crisis to an end. If the 14 febers are following America's orders and some of the opposition like this mastermind Berri are following Syria's orders, what can FPM do other than try sideline Lebanon from this conflict? Now whether FPM can achieve that or not is debatable (if not improbable), but it surely doesn't mean that if Syria and KSA agree, then the crisis is over bc FPM can block this agreement if it sees it doesn't fit Lebanon's interest.

So, FPM may not have the ability to stop the influence of the foreign nations in Lebanon, but it has the capacity to fail any foreign agreement that can turn out to be very harmful to Lebanon. I hope u get the nuance.
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FPM may not have the ability to stop the influence of the foreign nations in Lrebanon, but it has the capacity to fail any foreign agreement that can turn out to be very harmful to Lebanon. I hope u get the nuance.
Yes,sure I got it,but believe me I think ur dreaming...:)
goodluck:)
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Yes,sure I got it,but believe me I think ur dreaming...:)
goodluck:)
A life without dreams isn't worth living.
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