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it wouldnt be that hard , the jews could easily convince the sunnits to form a united front with them against the iranians .
So it's about a cooperation not an occupation....
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You just uncovered the Israeli plan, bravo.

Israel - who plans on controlling Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria and a big part of Egypt and Saudi Arabia - have waited more than 50 years after their establishment to start doing so. They have waited after the lands that they wish to conquer were emptied from jews, they have waited after the end of two world wars and the fall of military powers to their favour and have waited after two major Arab-Israeli wars in which they won and conquered land, they have waited until after they even gave up back the land that they had conquered and the lands that they're still retreating from, etc. and they're still waiting to give more concessions and be in a less favourable situation that could enable them to actually put into effect the conquering and that is when they will make their move.

Smart plan.

Give up everything you got, wait for an unfavorable situation, wait for a time of more democracy and humanistic values, a time of less military action and more dialogue solutions, wait until the Arabs multiply, radicalize, and grow stronger in ammunitions and organization and then try to get back everything you once had in your hands.

Truly ingenious
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Democracy does end at the Polls, Besides, How Come the Palestinian MP's are a Minority if the Palestinians are allowed to Vote?
Democracy is a big topic, while Israel is not a perfect democratic state its elections are still fairly democratic and I was addressing those Arab Israelis who are voting, not the Palestinians per se...


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Don't we have the same issue of Majority and Minority in Lebanon, and Democratic are we?
More over, Why don't we check whether all Citizens in the State of Israel, Both Jews and Palestinians enjoy the same Rights?
You're branching out in so many other topics now... the main point I was advancing here is that Israel would very reluctantly (if ever) look to increase its Arab population - that would be the end of this racist state.


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Honestly, you know me by now, I do not Recognize the State of Israel, It is Illegal and Illegitinmate. So whether they apply Democracy or Not, it is my Least Problem.
I wasn't discussing Israel's democracy but rather the population factor...
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no , just that the jews are a bit foxier then arabs and they could turn the cooperation into an occupation without the arabis realising it .
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no , just that the jews are a bit foxier then arabs and they could turn the cooperation into an occupation without the arabis realising it .
care to provide some examples...
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Internesting info i was just reading while this thread started its about Jews/Zionist/Neoconservative/Hawk all the same coin with different faces and their intention towards Lebanon and our region. pls read


Lebanon Bloodlust


The first step is to acknowledge that we have a serious Jewish problem. This should be pretty obvious by the current Zionist land grab of Lebanon and their blatant intent to make that country the second part of Greater Israel. The Zionists have decided to go for broke with no apologies for their bloodlust, greed and hatred. The Zionists own the Bush administration and Rush Limbaugh and all the "conservative" figures except Buchanan, Roberts and a few others. They own all the big newspapers and television networks and the movie production companies. They own the radio stations and music production companies, which is why "American" country music is pro-war, anti-Moslem and belligerent, except the Dixie Chicks, who were blackballed by the Jewish industry.


As the Clinton crowd might have said - It’s the Jews, stupid. It’s always been the Jews. The problem is not really Zionism - it’s Judaism. The problem is Christianity, which is Judaism for Gentiles. Christians cannot deal with Jews because they believe that Jews are "God’s Chosen People." The Jews believe that they are God, and of course that’s ‘way beyond the comprehension of Christians. Any people that would hold itself up as somehow "chosen by God" is by definition insane, so that is a fundamental Jewish problem, especially when you read the Old Testament stories of the troubles old Yahweh had with his chosen ones.

The US government grants total tax exemption to the Christian churches. Why? Because they serve the Jewish plan. Christianity is an off-shoot of Judaism and a public relations organization that always works for "interfaith" cooperation, meaning Jewish control of Gentile religious thinking. Can you imagine any rabbi allowing a priest or minister to set standards for Jews? It’s always the other way around. Jews complain about Christians but they secretly rejoice that the Goyim ("cattle") are dumb enough to fall for their impossible fairy tales and absurd laws of conduct as found in the Sermon on the Mount. The Beatitudes are prescriptions for destruction at the hands of the crafters of that play. To become a Christian is to deny yourself your right of survival in the deadliest struggle on earth. Those whom the Jews destroy they first make Christian, because it assures the Jew that the enemy will not fight back.


This Is A No Win Situation

We have a serious Jewish problem. It’s not just a Zionist problem, because there’s no mention of Zionism, or making The Law Go Forth From Zion, in the Talmud. Zionism was dreamed up in the 19th Century in Russia and is merely the Talmudic way that Jews deal with their neighbors when they have some power. If they don’t have power, they are the revolutionary proletariat. As Herzl said, "And when we rise, there rises the terrible power of our purse." When the Jews are down, they make trouble, always demanding - and receiving - special treatment. When they are up, they are our merciless overlords. And there is no getting on their good side, because they don’t have a good side. Ask the Palestinians.



Ask the Russians how it was to be under Jewish rule after 1917, when criticism of Jews was a capital offence. Ask the Hungarians, who finally had to rise up and kill as many of them as they could in October, 1956. The Soviets had put Jews in all positions of power in Hungary.


First Iraq Then Syria


Those of us who understood the Jewish plan for world dictatorship, known loosely as the New World Order, have wondered when the Jews would make their big move for total power. That appears finally to be now. People around the world are appalled at the second destruction of Beirut in twenty-four years. But this time it is being done under the specific protection of the American president, who has said repeatedly that Israel must be protected by America. He is right now sending tons of weapons of mass destruction to the Psychopaths of the Desert. Israel is doing exactly what Bush wants it to do, which is exactly what the Council on Foreign Relations wants it to do. Syria and Iran are next, and are subject to the ultimate weapons of mass destruction. Saudi Arabia and Egypt cannot be far behind.



Israel intends to take over the Moslem world and kill as many Moslems as possible, with the aid and encouragement of Washington, DC. This does appear to be the beginning of the end of civilization as we have known it.



Final Kickoff


We are confronted by Jewish psycho-terrorists in the US government - mad serial killers who worship death. They commenced their plans for world dictatorship with their shock and awe attack on the World Trade Center in Manhattan five years ago. That immediately resulted in unprovoked attacks against two Moslem countries by the US and UK. Under the distraction of those slaughterhouse disasters which were designed by Jews, the Israelis now obliterate Lebanon in an attempt to provoke Syria to respond, and Iran, too. Israel knows that Bush will order nuclear strikes against those countries if they take the bait, for such plans have already been revealed by frightened officers in the Pentagon.



Israel may use nuclear weapons against those two countries soon, and claim that America did it. As we know, there is no one in the US government who will blame Israel for anything it does, because that would be "anti-Semitic." But, who are the Semites? Short answer: the Arabs. Who are the anti-Semites? Short answer: the Jews.


The purpose of this essay is to prepare the reader for a life of struggle against Jewish rule in this country. We have been under total Jewish control for decades, because everything we are allowed to see, read and hear via the mainstream media comes through the Jewish filter. Truth is only available from the Internet, which is why the Internet will have to go - to prevent terrorism, of course.
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care to provide some examples...
of what? jews being smarter then arabs ?
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More about Jews/Zionist/Hawks/Neoconservative. please read its very Intriguing



Remember, the favorite Jewish method of control and extermination is by famine. This is because it is both excruciating and humiliating. And it doesn’t cost them a dime. They simply withhold food. Ask the Ukrainians, who lost several million souls to the Jewish famine in the 1930s. The Jews simply confiscated their food and they starved.


People forget that every single cabinet office under Clinton was headed by a Jew! What are the odds? Are they such superior people that only they are qualified to take such powerful positions over us? The dozen or so Zionist Jews around Bush bragged at first how they got us to attack Iraq. So look at how our Jewish-run government has wreaked havoc in that poor country that never threatened America in the slightest. The Iraqis suffer deliberate shortages of fresh water and food. The Palestinians are starving and dying of thirst and have lost thousands of children because of Jewish rule. The Jews have dozens of ways to kill you and they try them all.


(Look at Lebanon, suffering from severe economical and deficit problem)


If you still wonder if I’m exaggerating - or writing "Jew" when I should be writing "Zionist" - read James Bacque’s two books on this subject: Other Losses and Crimes & Mercies. The first details the Jews’ extermination of approximately one million helpless German POWs directly following their surrender in 1945. The other reveals how the Jews slaughtered approximately 13 million helpless German civilians in the first few years after the surrender, before the Berlin Airlift showed the world what benefactors we were, because we needed a new enemy and a new ally. This was done under the authority of the Morgenthau Plan for Germany.

Morgenthau, of course, was a Jew and not a Zionist, as was his chief butcher, Eisenhower. And remember that Germany was considered a paradise by the Jews, and the German people very tolerant and generous towards the Jews in the years before the tough guys took over. Remember too that Jews consider America an extremely threatening place, and unruly Americans much more dangerous to them than Germans ever were. So we can count on very bad treatment from them under Jewish Rule. Just keep that in mind.



Their Magical Touch


It’s my idea that Jews - Zionist or otherwise - ought not to rule anywhere. Everything they touch turns to garbage. Music, literature, art, science, government, education, labor, medicine, race relations - everything goes bad fast when they are involved in it. The main Jewish contribution to science has been the nuclear bomb, which is only consistent with their battle cry, "We are the destroyers!" That’s really all the Jews know how to do - steal and destroy things. Look at Israel, which they stole from the Palestinians. They destroyed it. Now they’re destroying Lebanon, just as they did in 1982. They got us to destroy Iraq and we and they together will keep destroying everything because the Jews are in control of Bush. Not just Zionists - Jews.

We’ve all seen the photos of Bush’s White House kitchen, full of orthodox rabbis who pronounced it "Kosher." We’ve seen Bush and Cheney wearing their yarmulkes (skull-caps) so we can see just how total is the Jewish control of our government. There is no official opposition to Jewish Rule, just as there is no official opposition to Mexicans sneaking across the border and flooding this country with hostiles. Bush and Cheney and their underlings are traitors who are sponsoring Jewish Rule, which will immediately lead to the North American Union and one Jewish government over the US, Canada and Mexico.

I believe that Jewish Rule must be prevented at all costs. I believe that anyone who promotes Jewish Rule from an official position is by definition a traitor. There is only one penalty for Treason, as even our rump government acknowledges.

So, get ready for action. In the coming years (if not sooner), be prepared to kill or get killed. For a preview of life under the Jews in the North American Union in 2010, just look at Israel and what quality of life it has created in that tragic region, or Russia after 1917, or Hungary or Poland or East Germany after 1945.

It is my opinion that Americans are responsible for the Jewish destruction of so much of the world and that we must take responsibility for our part. We must repay our victims or their survivors as best we can and we must ensure that Jewish Rule is ended as quickly as possible, before it destroys us all. We can all think of ways to end Jewish Rule. Let’s figure out the best ways and use them.
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The articles posted by Dalzi were taken from: http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_...iddle_east.htm
To have an idea of the value of the site, you might want to check other equally fascinating articles like:
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I believe that Jewish Rule must be prevented at all costs. I believe that anyone who promotes Jewish Rule from an official position is by definition a traitor. There is only one penalty for Treason, as even our rump government acknowledges.
Interesting article A4L, does this rule apply to our officials?
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