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Thank you Watani for your constructive contribution.

So from the following articles and input one can conclude the following:

Whether you agree on calling that or not is Khomeinism. If Khomeini had his input on the ideology of Wilayat El-Faqih then it is called Khomeinism. That is why you have something called Leninism, and Maoism, each follow Marxism with their own twist. So a play on words over here is pretty much useless.

It is a form of a Neo-Patrimonial state. It probably does not fit its exact definition of "a partially modernized state in which there appears to be a modern bureaucratic and party-based government, but in fact a single powerful person rules society through an extensive system of personal patronage, rather than obedience to personal laws"

While it might not fit its exact definition, it is a form religious neo-patrimonial state. It's got a chief executive who plays divide and conquer between his enemies. He's got the ruling class, somewhat similar to Lenin's vanguard party, and then he's got the nobles, which basically consist of the wealthy class, and the clerics. Then you have the common people who live in a suppressed environment.

The chief-executive also tries to show that he's a democratic reformer and creates a facade of democracy, such as those seen in his 99% constitutional approval rate, and parliamentary elections. We've also seen reformers resigning in parliament because their presence there was useless.

In the end, in the 21st century, were human rights are easily monitored, and democracy has been established as a value of a modernized society, one can only conclude that Khomeinism, is a religious populist dictatorship.
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Did u read TAHRIR AL WASSILA in arabic or in english? cz i'll tell u something. When i was in France, i saw Le livre vert de Khomeiny . It was supposed to be the french version but it was really totally different from the arabic one.
I think it's the same to the english book, so try to have the arabic version just to compare cz Khomeiny was the first enemy of the west. They won't show him as a hero and they'll try to falsify the facts so that everybody will be disgussed as u did
And the word khomenism is an invention to make us think that a new religious theory is born. Just to make us afraid of him or suspicious (just think who create this word)
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Did u read TAHRIR AL WASSILA in arabic or in english? cz i'll tell u something. When i was in France, i saw Le livre vert de Khomeiny . It was supposed to be the french version but it was really totally different from the arabic one.
I think it's the same to the english book, so try to have the arabic version just to compare cz Khomeiny was the first enemy of the west. They won't show him as a hero and they'll try to falsify the facts so that everybody will be disgussed as u did
And the word khomenism is an invention to make us think that a new religious theory is born. Just to make us afraid of him or suspicious (just think who create this word)
We need someone to read this part in Farsi or ta have more information rom a religious figure.
If you google it, you will find a lot of information about this fact.
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Hassan,
I think that what vicking was referring to is a passage of the book entitled تحرير الوسيلة written (supposedly) by S. Ali Kamenei. Actually, there is one arabic version of this book published on the site of the office of Sayyed Kamenei, and the site is www.leader.ir
You'll have to go to the Arabic Section and the book could be viewed on the left pane under the title "Library" (in Arabic).
Once you go the the book, look for the 37th chapter and read the 12th article.
(please let me know if you couldn't find it)

I'd like to hear your feedback, and is this site the official site of the Iranian leader?

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And the word khomenism is an invention to make us think that a new religious theory is born. Just to make us afraid of him or suspicious (just think who create this word)
Yes Khomeinism is an invented word, but he did add his own flavor to Wilayat El-Faqih, and therefore like there's something called Leninism which is based on Marxism but with a few alterations, there is something called Khomeinism, and it's a fact.
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Wisecookie,

Khomainism must be a description of the approach of S. Khamenei to politics, or in other words his political thought, and mainly the doctrine of Wilayat Faqih.

There's an article entitled General Principles of Imam Khumayni's
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talking about this issue. I don't know if this article is biased or not (since i haven't finished the reading), but it seems to be quite informative and it provides a thorough analysis.

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Yes Khomeinism is an invented word, but he did add his own flavor to Wilayat El-Faqih, and therefore like there's something called Leninism which is based on Marxism but with a few alterations, there is something called Khomeinism, and it's a fact.
Ok WiseCookie, can u please tell me what this expression "wilayat al fakih" means to u plz? ya3ne, what do u think when u hear or read this expression?
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Ok WiseCookie, can u please tell me what this expression "wilayat al fakih" means to u plz? ya3ne, what do u think when u hear or read this expression?

Three major threads about Wilayat al Faqih, please refer to them:

HA and its supporters - Discussion of Wilayat Al Faqih

Lebanese Sovereignty, and Wilayat Al Fiqh,

Wilayat Al Faqih: A credit or a deficit in Lebanese credits



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Nayla,
Three major threads about Wilayat al Faqih, please refer to them:

HA and its supporters - Discussion of Wilayat Al Faqih

Lebanese Sovereignty, and Wilayat Al Fiqh,

Wilayat Al Faqih: A credit or a deficit in Lebanese credits

Please donot drift the thread offtopic.

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There is nothing called Khomeinism , and if anything can be referred to as Khomeinism by the west it is Wilayat Faqih..

The rest revolutionary , live with dignity etc is nothing Imam Khomeini invented but are the teachings of Imam Hussein(AS)
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