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Terrorist Israeli Rabbi: stop acting like christians -
21st February 2008
Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu: Level Beit Hanoun
Safed's rabbi believes Qassam fire will not stop because of 'a few children hurt here and there in a targeted killing,' calls on IDF to erase Palestinian town. 'Instead of acting like Jews we act according to Christian morals,' he tells Ynet
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 02.21.08, 10:22 / Israel Jewish Scene
If we don’t want to destroy Sderot we must destroy the Palestinian town of Beit Hanoun, Safed's Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu ruled Wednesday following the ongoing Qassam rocket fire targeting the southern Israeli town.
"We don’t have to kill the people living there, but we must definitely destroy Beit Hanoun," he added.
According to Rabbi Eliyahu, there is no chance that the rocket fire will stop due to "a few children hurt here and there in an IDF targeted killing" because they are perceived as shahids (martyrs), and therefore leveling the northern Gaza Strip town is "the only efficient solution".
Talking to Ynet, the rabbi noted that according to Judaism, "The one who has mercy on cruel people will eventually behave cruelly to merciful people," and therefore the State of Israel must act according to the verse "If someone tries to kill you – rise up and kill him first".
"Christianity wanted to differentiate itself from the Torah and wrote in one of the New Testament books, 'Love your enemy as yourself,'" he said. "I find it difficult to understand why the Israeli government insists on acting according to the Christian morals and serve the other cheek."
'Problem will spread like a malignant disease'
In an article due to be published in the Rosh Yehudi movement's bulletin over the weekend, Rabbi Eliyahu claims that those who really love Sderot's residents cannot only pay lip service, and must demand that the government do to Gaza's Arab residents what it did to Gaza's Jewish residents.
Under the title, 'Loving Sderot – Leveling Beit Hanoun,' the rabbi wrote, "A week ago, Gaza's Arabs proved that they love Egypt, so why not?"
He goes on to say in a slightly cynical note, "I almost wrote to destroy Beit Hanound like they destroyed (former settlement of) Neveh Dekalim, but this comparison is painful for me. I know it is also painful for the Left. Erase an Arabs' neighborhood? Racism! Where is the attorney general? This is urgent!"
The rabbi also argues that the IDF's failure to fight forcefully in recent years is not aimed at crushing terror, causing 5,000 Qassam rockets to make Israel flee from Gush Katif, while 3,900 defeated Israel in Lebanon.
"Why should Hamas, which aspires to destroy Israel, stop in Sderot? They will then go for Ashkelon, then for the Gaza vicinity communities, and then for Beit Shean. Why should the State treat Beit Shean better than it treats Sderot?
"The city will be installed with a Color Red alert system and will receive a whole team of psychologists. They will also wait seven years for fortification. In the meantime, they will be visited by all the government ministers for the purpose of photo-ops."
The rabbi goes on to call Israel "Chelm", claiming that the fortification of Sderot was advancing in a slower pace than the improving Qassam range and its accurate targeting ability.
"And what about those walking on the streets?" he adds. "Perhaps they should provide every Sderot resident with a knight's iron suit."
According to Rabbi Eliyahu, If Israel fails to deal with the problem, it will spread like a malignant disease. "It must be cut off when it's still small. Instead of cutting off Sderot, we should cut off Beit Hanoun."
He seems to have his own version of Judaism, like those who have their own version of Christianity and those who have their own version of Islam. A murderous lunatic like most of those Israeli followers of the Talmud.
The problem with jews is that they portray God as being an addict to violence, murder, revenge and masacre... Fortunately, THE God they believe in is yahweh and not THE God that was worshiped by the Canaanites, the Akkadians, the Amorites, the Assyrians and the God we now believe in. From this Eastern civilization the concept of God as a Sublime (عالي)Power was first conceived. This Sublime Power was named differently according to the tongues spoken by those people but the meaning of sublimity remained intact. Thus, in Akkadian tongue Sublime mean "Aal" (عال) , in Amorite "Murdock", in Canaanite "Oon" أون from the Sumerian "An" أن, in Assyriac "Ashoor". Different words but they describe the Sublimity of the creator. Now, the word God الله was derived from the Akkadian word "AaL" عال but due to their contacts with the Sumerians, the Akkadian letter "Aa" ع (in Arabic) was pronounced in Sumerian tongue "E" "ء" (in Arabic). So, the word "AaL" became "EL" "إل" (in Arabic) or إيل. Then, and according to the Aramiac and Arabic tongues where the letters "A" and "H" are used to emphasis on something like: "Oh brother" "يا أخي" become " يا خياه", Oh mother " يا أمي" become "يا أماه" ، night "ليل" become "ليلاه"....<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> Subsequently, the word "EL" "إيل" become "Elah" " إيلاه" and according to some grammatical rules the word became "Allah" "الله"<o:p></o:p> (For more details see: History of God - Jorgy Canaan pp 176-308-309).<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Now, according to their torah the Fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region><st1:place>israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>) did not know the name of their God:<o:p></o:p> [Ex 6:2-3] God also said to Moses, "I am the LORD. [3] I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty,{a} but by my name the LORD{b} I did not make myself known to them.{c}<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Ironically, many of their prophets, kings, villages, even the name of their Father Isaac were named after EL/إيل:<o:p></o:p> - Isra EL = EL ييسر as we say nowadays: الله ييسرها معك.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> - Even Jacob built an altar and named it after "EL": <o:p></o:p> [Ge 33:20] There he (Jacob) set up an altar and called it El (إيل)Elohe (الله)<st1:country-region><st1:place>Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> - Names like: Samu EL, Ezeki EL, EL isha, Jo EL, Dani EL...<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It was Moses who first told the isrealis that the name of their God is yahweh meaning: I am who I am: [Ex <st1:time Hour="15" Minute="14">3:14</st1:time>] God said to Moses, "I am who I am.{a} This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I am has sent me to you."<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I 'll settle for that much.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Now let's have a glimpse on the morality of jews: Racist - Looters -Cowardness and Lies - Yahweh CRIMES.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Racist: <o:p></o:p> When you accuse jews of being racist, haven would fall upon earth but actually they are and it dates back to the days of Moses.<o:p></o:p> When Moses saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew he kILLed the Egyptian. The next day, Moses saw the same Hebrew fighting with another Hebrew, here he tried to reconciliate them. So, Moses killed the Egyptian instead of trying to reconciliating him with the Hebrew but he did reconciliate the two Hebrews!!! Isn't this what racism is all about???<o:p></o:p> [Ex <st1:time Hour="14" Minute="11">2:11</st1:time>] One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to where his own people were and watched them at their hard labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people. [12] Glancing this way and that and seeing no one, he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. [13] The next day he went out and saw two Hebrews fighting. He asked the one in the wrong, "Why are you hitting your fellow Hebrew?"<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Looters:<o:p></o:p> [Ex <st1:time Hour="12" Minute="36">12:36</st1:time>] The LORD had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people, and they gave them what they asked for; so they plundered the Egyptians. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Cowardness and Lies:<o:p></o:p> [Ge 26:7] When the men of that place asked him about his wife, he said, "She is my sister," because he was AFRAID to say, "She is my wife." He thought, "The men of this place might kill me on account of Rebekah, because she is beautiful."<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Yahweh CRIMES: <o:p></o:p> In the same way the Torah describes how the israelite tribes invaded, put to fire and masacred the indeginous inhabitants of the <st1:place><st1:PlaceType>land</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName>Canaan</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, the zionist applied those atrocities upon the inhabitants of <st1:place><st1:City>Palestian</st1:City>, <st1:country-region>Egypt</st1:country-region></st1:place>, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Jordan</st1:place></st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Syria</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region>. The proofs from the Torah are uncounted mainly in the book of Joshua, Judges, Samuel 1&2 and Kings 1&2.<o:p></o:p> For the sake of credibility I'll quote from the book of Joshua:<o:p></o:p> [Jos 6:21] They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, INFANTS and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.<o:p></o:p> [Jos 6:24] Then they burned the whole city and everything in it...<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And in Samuel:<o:p></o:p> [1Sa 15:3] Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> What kind of "god" is this???<o:p></o:p> The killing of those Canaanites INFANTS and the continous killing of the Palestinians INFANTS and the Lebanese INFANTS in QANA is PRO-HUMAN while the New Testament that preaches love to even your enemy is attacked as being anti-semitic because it blames the killing of Jesus on the jews!!!<o:p></o:p> Hypocrisy at least.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And, and, and... The list is endless: adultery, Sister marriage, worship of idols…<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In contrast, let's examine briefly the morality of the people of Canaan/Philistine:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Following the lie of Isaac when he claimed his wife to be his sister, the king Abimelech was enraged and reproached Isaac for the GUILT he brought upon the people. <o:p></o:p> [Ge 26:10] Then Abimelech said, "What is this you have done to us? One of the men might well have slept with your wife, and you would have brought GUILT upon us." <o:p></o:p> [11] So Abimelech gave orders to all the people: "Anyone who molests this man or his wife shall surely be put to death."<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> This is a brief picture that shed lights on the qualities and moralities of the Canaanite people.<o:p></o:p> The same story occurred with Abraham.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And more... King David had taken refuge in the land of the Palestinians when he was persecuted by King Saul:<o:p></o:p> [1Sa 27:5] Then David said to Achish, "If I have found favor in your eyes, let a place be assigned to me in one of the country towns, that I may live there. Why should your servant live in the royal city with you?" <o:p></o:p> [6] So on that day Achish gave him Ziklag, and it has belonged to the kings of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Judah</st1:place></st1:country-region> ever since. [7] David lived in Philistine territory a year and four months.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> One can write books over books on the immorality of the jews. In short, the bitch of it is that the jews claim that they are fulfilling the words of their god!!!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> jihad salloum
The problem with jews is that they portray God as being an addict to violence, murder, revenge and masacre...
That is completely false, and very far from truth.
Okay, so I know truth is a problematic word to use, because everyone have their own truth.
Lets just say, that the quote is false, at least according to the vast majority of people (edit: jews). Why vast majority? There are fanatics everywhere.
Sure, there are Jew Fanatics, but everyone religion has their fanatics.
I know that the vast majority in here is far from being religiously fanatic, and that the Jews' god the exact opposite of what you wrote there, i.e. the Jews' god is about compassion, love, respect and co-existence.
Did you know that the vast majority of jews in Israel are in fact Secular, and the religious jews are a rather minority? In this minority, there is a far lesser amount of fanatics.
You can't expect every Rabbi to be the incarnate of Perfection, or Knowledge. They're just human beings like me and you. I don't expect every Rabbi's word to be the voice of whole.
If anything, given the fact that the religious population in Israel is a minority, his own voice should count less.
It's pretty funny, because I've heard the same things about Islamic god and the Islamic religion - that it's mostly about Violent Oppression, Ignorance, Killing, Censorship and Hatred. Yap, many people do think that.
Obviously I chose to say (accordingly to many observations I've gotten to witness), it's right that they live by their own codes, which sometimes might seem more prejudice and old-fasion (in things such as Homosexuality and Women) in some countries , but I didn't accept that these things are about Violent Oppression, Killing and Hatred.
To some fanatic minorities? Perhaps. For the vast majority, who probably mostly use common human sense? Not.
My point- it's not like that, either way for the vast majority. I'm sure that just as I can see that, you can see that, and accept that as well.
The problem with jews is that they portray God as being an addict to violence, murder, revenge and masacre...
As if Christians, Muslims and other religions portray their God any better. Humans tend to be selective about teachings, and that's where they could choose the good or the bad.
That is completely false, and very far from truth.
Okay, so I know truth is a problematic word to use, because everyone have their own truth.
Lets just say, that the quote is false, at least according to the vast majority of people. Why vast majority? There are fanatics everyone.
Sure, there are Jew Fanatics, but everyone religion has their fanatics.
I know that the vast majority in here is far from being religiously fanatic, and that the Jews' god the exact opposite of what you wrote there, i.e. the Jews' god is about compassion, love, respect and co-existence.
Did you know that the vast majority of jews in Israel are in fact Secular, and the religious jews are a rather minority? In this minority, there is a far lesser amount of fanatics.
You can't expect every Rabbi to be the incarnate of Perfection, or Knowledge. They're just human beings like me and you. I don't expect every Rabbi's word to be the voice of whole.
If anything, given the fact that the religious population in Israel is a minority, his own voice should count less.
It's pretty funny, because I've heard the same things about Islamic god and the Islamic religion - that it's mostly about Violent Oppression, Ignorance, Killing, Censorship and Hatred. Yap, many people do think that.
Obviously I chose to say (accordingly to many observations I've gotten to witness), it's right that they live by their own codes, which sometimes might seem more prejudice and old-fasion (in things such as Homosexuality and Women) in some countries , but I didn't accept that these things are about Violent Oppression, Killing and Hatred.
To some fanatic minorities? Perhaps. For the vast majority, who probably mostly use common human sense? Not.
My point- it's not like that, either way for the vast majority. I'm sure that just as I can see that, you can see that, and accept that as well.
Thank you, well said.
Actually there are pretty horrible things in scriptures, including the Jewish teachings but others also, including all Abrahamic religions; However, the fallacy is in projecting such bad values to believers themselves. Those latter, as I said earlier, try to be selective of the good values; That's why you, as a Jew (maybe), say that "Jews' god is about compassion, love, respect and co-existence", the majority of Muslims and Christians would assume the same, because that's they want to believe, or because those are the values that they view as positive, and thus allocate them to their Gods. The fanatic, on the other hand, will stick more strictly to the scriptures, where his/her Gods would justify for him/her hatred, and violence.
That doesn't mean that for seculars, are totally detached from the influence of religious negative values in their lives; In the next message, I will post a study conducted by the Israeli psychologist George Tamarin; It's quite interesting on this level.
As if Christians, Muslims and other religions portray their God any better. Humans tend to be selective about teachings, and that's where they could choose the good or the bad.
Chafic,
I'm sorry but the Torah is the only religious book that repeatedly and consistently justifies violence and immorality as long as it is directed at another people. The central tenet of the Torah is that the Jews are the chosen people of God, and that all other peoples are subhumans that ought to be eliminated so that God's promise of a land to the Jews can be fulfilled. No other religion has that as its basic, fundamental belief. Read the Torah. Open any page, and you are bound to see something disturbing in it, because the whole books is filled with murder, rape, theft, adultery, vengeance, incest, etc.
Now, maybe not all Jews believe in the Torah, but those that do have to reconcile between what is written there and what they claim to believe in.
As if Christians, Muslims and other religions portray their God any better. Humans tend to be selective about teachings, and that's where they could choose the good or the bad.
how they understand God is one thing and how he/she/it is portrayed in the Sacred Books is another.
For example, by comparing the New testament (the Gospels) with the Old Testament taken from the Torah, u find that God in the New Testament is forgiving, good, loving, caring, etc... whilst in the Old Testament he is a vindictive, sadistic, bloodthursty megalomaniac.
Hence, I wonder why the church even accepts such dichotomy and considers the New Testament as a continuation of the Old Testament!
I'm sorry but the Torah is the only religious book that repeatedly and consistently justifies violence and immorality as long as it is directed at another people. The central tenet of the Torah is that the Jews are the chosen people of God, and that all other peoples are subhumans that ought to be eliminated so that God's promise of a land to the Jews can be fulfilled. No other religion has that as its basic, fundamental belief. Read the Torah. Open any page, and you are bound to see something disturbing in it, because the whole books is filled with murder, rape, theft, adultery, vengeance, incest, etc.
Now, maybe not all Jews believe in the Torah, but those that do have to reconcile between what is written there and what they claim to believe in.
3asheq Beirut,
the three Abrahamic religions depict God in pretty much similar ways. Violence and immorality are present in different verses of the Old testament of the Christian bible and in the Quran.
Terrorist Israeli Rabbi: stop acting like christians -
21st February 2008
