Syrians Opening Trade With Israel

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by حسن

You said than I say, than you said than I say, than you said...
Anyway,
Vive HA and Hamas
Vive le Liban et vive la Palestine
Longue vie à Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

There you go, slogans a gogo!

Vive xyz, Vive Vive Vive

[حسن]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

There you go, slogans a gogo!

Vive xyz, Vive Vive Vive

I already answered to all your questions, even those that you repeated several times. So I had nothing else to say again.
And then I said viva to my country the lebanon, to the beloved palestine and to my great leader.

So Why are you angry ?
It is never enough to repeat

Vive le Liban et vive la Palestine
Longue vie à Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

And if you are still upet, as palestinians say, you can go drink the water of the sea in Gaza

It seems to be possible for you to do that...

[WiseCookie]

Originally Posted by حسن

Do you want another Iraq in Lebanon ? Or do you want another Jenine or Rafah?

Lebanon context is closest to Irak and Palestine than KSA UAE or Jordan. And the worse is that we may have both : assaults from takfiri groups and from Israeli army

And if you dare about the economical situation, you should be with GMA for president to get back the stolen public money.

It is best to seperate the 3 countries from each other. Each country has its own problems. I don't hear people in Iraq talk about Lebanon and i don't hear people in Palestine talk about Shebaa or the other occupied territories. Yet, we Lebanese have to stick our business into every single, seperate ,arab, cause, when they don't give a **** about ours.

I was mainly talking about the economical-political issue and not the political side of it only. I am an FPMer man, and if there's anyone i support for the presidency it's GMA, and even some other FPMer if shown the credibelity and competence.

[fuad]

the arab-israeli problem is not exactly about apples. <o:p></o:p>
It is about Palestinian refugees that <st1:place u1:st="on"><st1:country-region u1:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">israel</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:country-region></st1:place> is refusing to permit them to go back to their towns and refusing to accept their right to self-determination. And it is about occupied land that should be returned.
I met an israeli once wearing a T-shirt with map of "<st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region>" that places all of <st1:country-region w:st="on">lebanon</st1:country-region> inside "<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>". Only the braveness of the lebanese people that prevented the israelis form conquering <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region>. <o:p></o:p>
There is no question that <st1:country-region w:st="on">Syria</st1:country-region> tries to use <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region> for its own ends. But <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region> is now an independent country and can make decisions for its own interests. The Shabaa farms should be freed; <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> should allow the refugees to go back to their towns.
A total boycott of everything Jewish is not helping solve the dispute between <st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region> and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region></st1:place>. The Palestinians in <st1:City u1:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Gaza</st1:City></st1:City> and the west bank do not want, and are against, a boycott of <st1:country-region u1:st="on"><st1:place u1:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">israel</st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:place></st1:country-region>. They do business with Jews.


Why should <st1:country-region u1:st="on"><st1:place u1:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region> be leading an “Arab” boycott of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region></st1:place>?</st1:place></st1:country-region>

[حسن]

Originally Posted by WiseCookie

I'll be honest with you hassan
...
We Lebanese are used as a pawn to make it seem as if there's still an arab cause when there isn't. The KSA and UAE and Jordan are all american allies and friends.
...

Originally Posted by حسن

Do you want another Iraq in Lebanon ? Or do you want another Jenine or Rafah?

Lebanon context is closest to Irak and Palestine than KSA UAE or Jordan. And the worse is that we may have both : assaults from takfiri groups and from Israeli army

And if you dare about the economical situation, you should be with GMA for president to get back the stolen public money.

Originally Posted by WiseCookie

It is best to seperate the 3 countries from each other. Each country has its own problems. I don't hear people in Iraq talk about Lebanon and i don't hear people in Palestine talk about Shebaa or the other occupied territories. Yet, we Lebanese have to stick our business into every single, seperate ,arab, cause, when they don't give a **** about ours.
...

It's you who asked to follow the example of other countries, like KSA, UAE and Jordan.
I just told you that the context in lebanon is the worse one: All ingredients are present in lebanon to make the situation a mix of Irak and Palestine, with both agressions from israeli army and takfiri groups. That is real. Either you do not see these dangers, or otherwise would you give your proposal to protect lebanon NOW from these dangers

[حسن]

Originally Posted by fuad

...
The Palestinians in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:City u1:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Gaza</st1:City></st1:City> and the west bank do not want, and are against, a boycott of <st1:country-region u1:st="on"><st1:place u1:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">israel</st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:place></st1:country-region>. They do business with Jews.


Why should <st1:country-region u1:st="on"><st1:place u1:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region> be leading an “Arab” boycott of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region></st1:place>?</st1:place></st1:country-region>

The palestinians have no choices, they are obliged to deal with israel, otherwise they should live in otarcy.
Anyway, lebanon has nothing to sell to israel, so we have nothing to loose on boycotting israel.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by حسن

The palestinians have no choices, they are obliged to deal with israel, otherwise they should live in otarcy.
Anyway, lebanon has nothing to sell to israel, so we have nothing to loose on boycotting israel.

Wouldn't you want Israeli tourists spending money in our country or is this a crime?

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by حسن

It's you who asked to follow the example of other countries, like KSA, UAE and Jordan.
I just told you that the context in lebanon is the worse one: All ingredients are present in lebanon to make the situation a mix of Irak and Palestine, with both agressions from israeli army and takfiri groups. That is real. Either you do not see these dangers, or otherwise would you give your proposal to protect lebanon NOW from these dangers

Those "takfiris" are infiltrating through the Syrian borders.

The Army has taken very recent moves in spreading near the Northeastern borders and Deir el Achayer, it should do the same on the borders with Israel.

This is now.

[fuad]

Originally Posted by حسن

The palestinians have no choices, they are obliged to deal with israel, otherwise they should live in otarcy.
Anyway, lebanon has nothing to sell to israel, so we have nothing to loose on boycotting israel.

You might be right about any future balance of trade. It is probably not to Lebanon's advantage. But Lebanon can put tarriffs on the products it can't compete with.
But what about cultural links. There are many jews and Israelis who oppose their governmnet's actions more than many Lebanese. Why can't they visit Lebanon and share ideas and meet like-minded people here. What is the harm in that?

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by حسن

I already answered to all your questions, even those that you repeated several times. So I had nothing else to say again.
And then I said viva to my country the lebanon, to the beloved palestine and to my great leader.

No, u did not answer!

Q.1 How do those interests meet in a thread where we are criticizing the double standards of Syria's dealing with the Israelis?

Q.2 Oh I forgot, Syria "supports" the resistance so you turn a blind eye on whatever else Syria does?

Q.3 Oh wait, Syria "supports" the resistance and deals with Israel? Could it be that the Syrians are playing the Hezb card till they get what they want?

Q.4 Don't tell me that it's all a geostrategic game where nations like Syria and Iran are actively seeking their respective agendas while using tools like Hezb?
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