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what has trio got to do with it? iran was more at fault than syria - they supplied the weapons, they are the 'godfather' of the hizb. so israel should have attacked iran as well?

anyway: '67 WAS started by Egypt when it closed the Straits of Tiran. That alone was an act of War. (read the int'l law about such subjects) - let alone all THIS - so, the notion that Israel started this war is false.

Up until now over 6 major terrororganization's headquarters are located in Syria - and my private suspicion is that Israel wanted to 'show off' to tell Asad that it is not unnoticed that he's housing (funding?) groups that 'work' against Israel even now while he pretends to pursue peace. (but this is totally unbased, only my guess)
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Believe me, Assad doesnt need any "muscle flexing" to see what Israel is up to.

Israel attacked First hot shot...closing straights and pulling the U.N. is NOT firing on Israel. IAF attacked first and read it carefully.

Like I said, next time Israel has a problem with "the masters", take it with them.
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Uno: In my books, the 67 war started by Israel and that has been documented many times. This means Israel can find any excuse to attack Syria and THEN deal with the apologies. Hence it does not need any permission from anyone.
Secundo: Israel is fishing to get an idea on where the Syria AA weapons are located. They can do this at will.
Trio: Back in July, almost everyone including the Israeli embassador said Syria is at fault, and yet not a single jet fuel was burnt over Syria.
Just for the record, in 67 war israel was the one who opened fire, thats true, but toward Egypt and not toward Syria or Jorden...In the north front the Syrians were the ones who started the war by bombing israeli villiges from the Golan height...So technically, Syria started the fighting with israel.
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sure, you attack and ally and another comes in to defend and accuse them of attacking.

typicall Israeli answer. You guys need to work better on your strategy. All you needed is a catalyst.

If Bashar comes as close to farting one day and those fumes end up at the bottom of the sea of Gallilee, that is your reason to bomb them.

Well alon, you had your chance in July 06 to go after "your axis of evil" and you blew it.
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sure, you attack and ally and another comes in to defend and accuse them of attacking.

typicall Israeli answer. You guys need to work better on your strategy. All you needed is a catalyst.

If Bashar comes as close to farting one day and those fumes end up at the bottom of the sea of Gallilee, that is your reason to bomb them.

Well alon, you had your chance in July 06 to go after "your axis of evil" and you blew it.
Actually Israel warned Syria and Jorden not to enter this war, they chose to enter and they paid the price...
Israel don't attack first, like last summer, the Syrians chose not to enter this war, (again, Israel warned them) and Israel didn't attack them...You know that war with Syria will be much more easy for israel than war or operation against armed group like Hamas, HA or El-Queida...
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Actually Israel warned Syria and Jorden not to enter this war, they chose to enter and they paid the price...
Israel don't attack first, like last summer, the Syrians chose not to enter this war, (again, Israel warned them) and Israel didn't attack them...You know that war with Syria will be much more easy for israel than war or operation against armed group like Hamas, HA or El-Queida...
Israel is no longer capable of winning any wars. Damage they can cause but to win a war is totally out of their reach nowadays.
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How many time the Syrians teased israel in the last years? with the Hamas, and with HA last summer...If one flight above their country is a reason to start a war, so israel had a lot of reasons to start war in the past and they chose to ignore...Flights above enemy countries is something very putative, the Egyptian did it a lot of time to israel, and the Syrian too...Nobody thought about starting a war back then because of flights...

Don't try that deceptive Israeli propaganda on me i ain't buying it.What's hamas got to do with Syria . Remember its yous who are occupying Palestine, Its yous who are now oppressing 3rd generation refugees in there own country, Don't give me no sneaky Israeli deceptive false fabricated excuse that Syria is testing Israel because a few poor palis are trying to regain there homes back.

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Uno: In <b>my</b> books, the 67 war started by Israel and that has been documented many times. This means Israel can find any excuse to attack Syria and THEN deal with the apologies. Hence it does not need any permission from anyone.
Why everyone is talking about 1967 like about separate war?

War started in 1948 and still goes on. Israel and Syria or Israel and Lebanon can hit each other anytime and do not need anybody's permission for that.

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Secundo: Israel is fishing to get an idea on where the Syria AA weapons are located. They can do this at will.
That one I agree. It is just reconnaissance mission to test waters. With this over flight Israelis could easily identify many Syrian radar placements and their types. All those, which were tracking Israeli flight.

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Trio: Back in July, almost everyone including the Israeli embassador said Syria is at fault, and yet not a single jet fuel was burnt over Syria.
I agree. I think Syria deserves to be punished but I also think Israelis know better whether to do it or not and if so when.
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Israel is no longer capable of winning any wars. Damage they can cause but to win a war is totally out of their reach nowadays.
that's what israel likes everyone to believe
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Believe me, Assad doesnt need any "muscle flexing" to see what Israel is up to.

Israel attacked First hot shot...closing straights and pulling the U.N. is NOT firing on Israel. IAF attacked first and read it carefully.

Like I said, next time Israel has a problem with "the masters", take it with them.
as I wrote already: to close this straite was an act of war, take all the threats and mobilization of the armies near the border, plus that they sent the U.N. forces that were supposed to guard the borders away and you will have to admit that it was not israel that started the war (although I can imagine that you would think so if this is probably how this was taught in arab countries while there was no exposure to the sequence of events)

You could see here how things evolved.
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