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in any case, it has been proven. the reporters killed in the PA are forever a propaganda tool for the demonisation of israel crowd. but i bet nobody even knows the name or anything else of the dutch cameraman killed in gori a few days ago...
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Check out the shame of western media

YouTube - Fox News & The Georgia Spin

Lol, and they still talk of democracy and freedom..

kah kah kah kah. Interrupting the woman, calling break..
then after the break, they interrupt the woman again and shut down the program.
Just one side of the opinion is allowed to be heard in USA. stupid ghey fucks


And here is another news..on russia's relation with important countries in region


IndianExpress.com :: As Russia shows Georgia its iron hand, a look at the love-hate relationship it shares with Soviet Union’s former ‘republics’ since USSR’s dissolution in 1991:

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Goodwill between Armenia and Russia has deep historical roots and is sustained by Russia’s recent role as Armenia’s protector. Russia is the ace up Armenia’s sleeve against feared aggression by Turkey, Armenia’s historical enemy, and as a deterrent to a renewal of the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the disputed enclave of Nagorny Karabakh. Armenia plays eager host to a few Russian bases and a few thousand Russian troops, who patrol Armenia’s borders with Turkey and Iran. Virtually the entire Armenian energy sector is under Russian control. The most telling picture of the relationship was a trip by President Robert Kocharyan to the Kremlin, ahead of the February 2003 presidential election, to receive the “blessings” of President Putin.

Azerbaijan

Azerbaijan and Russia are caught in a bitter dispute over energy and labour migration, among other issues. Baku’s blunt refusal in December 2006 to import Russian gas following its energy giant Gazprom’s decision to hike gas prices for Azerbaijan marked a sharp acceleration in the worsening of relations between the two states.

Belarus

Belarus is closely allied with Moscow and forms a loose union state with Russia. The basis of the union was strengthened in 1997 with the signing of the “Treaty on the Union between Belarus and Russia”, at which time its name was changed to the Union of Russia and Belarus. Both member states seem to have lost their initial enthusiasm for the Union though, with first Russia and then Belarus restoring customs controls along their common border in 2001. Here too, Gazprom’s decision to hike gas prices has acted a spoiler.

Kazakhstan

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev’s first official state visit after taking office was to Kazakhstan. It was meant to boost ties between the two cash-rich states. In January-March 2008, trade between Russia and Kazakhstan amounted to $4.13 billion. However, trouble spots remain. Russia has been eager to maintain its influence over energy transit routes in the Caspian region.

Moldova

Moldova, like Georgia, is struggling with its own frozen conflict in the predominantly ethnic-Russian region of Transdniester. Although that separatist conflict is far less volatile than either Abkhazia or Georgia’s second breakaway region of South Ossetia, Russia is considered crucial to any resolution of the Transdniester conflict, and has used its leverage to reel in Moldova’s Western ambitions. Russia is also adamantly refusing to withdraw its troops from the Transdniester region.

Tajikistan

Traditionally Russia’s closest ally in Central Asia. Russia played a major role in ending Tajikistan’s five-year civil war. Russian soldiers were stationed in the country, guarded vital facilities during the war and helped the government maintain power. But the ties between the two have been affected due to Russia’s crackdown on illegal migrants from Tajikistan. Tajikistan’s proximity to Afghanistan has also raised its profile in the West and brought coalition troops to its bases — and this is not likely to go down too well with Russia.

Turkmenistan

Relations between Russia and Turkmenistan have always been complicated. Russia has signed agreements that will help it keep control over Turkmen gas exports. Russia is capable of influencing Turkmenistan if it decides to do so. The Turkmen economy depends heavily on gas exports, and its main pipeline route goes through Russian territory.

Ukraine

Russia strongly opposes any movement of NATO into what the Kremlin calls the former-Soviet space. Ukraine has sought to free itself of Russia’s influence, integrate into the West and join NATO. There have been disputes between Russia and Ukraine over natural gas prices in 2005 and 2008.

Uzbekistan

Russia is by far Uzbekistan’s closest trade partner, with trade turnover totaling roughly $4 billion in 2007. Moscow, in addition, has pledged to invest more than $2 billion in the Uzbek economy in the coming years. Uzbekistan, from Tashkent’s perspective, is in retrograde. Tashkent made a number of provocative steps against Moscow, from granting hydrocarbon contracts to Russian companies’ rivals to shunning Russian officials and making decisions without consultations with the Kremlin. Russia has attempted to offer Tashkent incentives to remain loyal to the Kremlin’s geopolitical agenda.
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who in ossetia wants to attack russia and deny its existence?
Why are you deliberately trying to twist his words?

He said:"When Russia wages war on Georgia in South Ossetia..."

Georgia savagely attacked Ossetia and bombed and killed many civilians,not to mention the testimonies of war crimes,ethnic cleansing attempts,rapes,and many other atrocities,that we're beginning to get,and that happened just before Russia jumped in to the rescue.

Georgian government thought that it could take over Ossetia by force and brutality,with the backing of NATO,US and Israel...

NATO,US and Israel pushed that idiot Saniou...i mean Saccofshit to do it,for very known reasons,all of them posing serious military threats to Russia.

And Now, Georgia is left to face its fate alone,like it's always the case with whomever allies with US and Israel.

And Israel just stopped supplying the Georgian Army weapons,as to send a message to Russia,not to retaliate by supplying Syria and Iran with more Thor M-1 or even S-300 anti-aircraft systems.

But now that the US is trying to sell Georgia to the Russians,in exchange of an anti-ballistic missile system in Poland,I would not be surprised to see Poland targetted,Georgia annexed and Russia supplying,or at least deploying in Syria and Iran ,the latest generation of anti-aircraft systems...the S-400.

US and Israel should beware since Russia has its nuclear submarines in 2 naval bases in Syria...So Israeli Nukes are no deterrent to anyone anymore...
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who in ossetia wants to attack russia and deny its existence?
Who grabbed the holy land of Jerusalem and has been denying the existance of Palestine for 60 years ?
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Who grabbed the holy land of Jerusalem and has been denying the existance of Palestine for 60 years ?
Georgians, no doubt.
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Hey, reality check.

First, it is Russians fighting Georgians and not you.

Second, game is just started. And do not forget to tell it to Nasrallah because it looks like our holy cave dweller is ready to declare another divine victory.
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Hey, reality check.

First, it is Russians fighting Georgians and not you.
Oh really, by the way the US gov't is talking about it, it seems like it is another story. But your government's hypocrisy wouldn't concern you now would it.

It is funny this is coming from you when you are on a Lebanese forum day and night talking about Lebanese politics.
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Oh really, by the way the US gov't is talking about it, it seems like it is another story. But your government's hypocrisy wouldn't concern you now would it.

It is funny this is coming from you when you are on a Lebanese forum day and night talking about Lebanese politics.
Talk about it all you want. I am not shutting you up.

And I am not discussing Lebanese politics.
Never knew the subject, never cared about it and I doubt I ever will.
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Talk about it all you want. I am not shutting you up.

And I am not discussing Lebanese politics.
Never knew the subject, never cared about it and I doubt I ever will.
Are you an Israeli or a Lebanese? Than why are you discussing Israeli or Lebanese issues?

Go convince your gov't to send some troops to help their dogs in Georgia. Didn't Georgia help you in Iraq, didn't it help the US portray a fake coalition in its invasion and occupation of Iraq. Go help your allies or is only Israel worth helping?

I know for a fact the US would be sending weapons if this was Israel instead of Georgia.
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Are you an Israeli or a Lebanese? Than why are you discussing Israeli or Lebanese issues?

Go convince your gov't to send some troops to help their dogs in Georgia. Didn't Georgia help you in Iraq, didn't it help the US portray a fake coalition in its invasion and occupation of Iraq. Go help your allies or is only Israel worth helping?

I know for a fact the US would be sending weapons if this was Israel instead of Georgia.
There is no need for weapons. Russia will regret its actions without it.
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