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جماعات حقوق الانسان تعتبر أن قتال اوسيتيا ربما يشكل جرائم حرب



حذرت جماعات دولية لحقوق الانسان روسيا وجورجيا من ان الأفعال ضد المدنيين في اقليم اوسيتيا الجنوبية الانفصالي رُبما تشكل جرائم حرب وحثت الجانبين على إبقاء المواطنين العاديين بعيدا عن الصراع

وفي هذا السياق، رأت منظمة هيومان رايتس ووتش في بيان "يتعين على جميع الاطراف أن تتذكر ان الهجمات على مدنيين او الافعال التي يقصد منها ارهاب مدنيين تنتهك بوضوح القانون الانساني وربما تشكل جرائم حرب

واوضحت المنظمة المعنية بالدفاع عن حقوق الانسان "سيصدق ذلك حتى اذا نفذت (الهجمات) ردا على هجمات غير تمييزية من الخصم

من جهتها، اعتبرت مجموعة الازمة الدولية بشكل منفصل ان القتال يمثل تهديدا انسانيا لما يصل الى 75 الف مدني في المنطقة ويجازف بأن يتسع الى صراع اوسع في منطقة القوقاز الملتهبة

واوضحت المجموعة "هناك خطر حقيقي بأن يمتد الصراع لابعد من اوسيتيا الجنوبية وابخازيا واجزاء اخرى من جورجيا


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Russian troops raid Georgian town; scores dead


By MISHA DZHINDZHIKHASHVILI, Associated Press Writer
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GORI, Georgia - Russia sent hundreds of tanks and troops into the separatist province of South Ossetia and bombed Georgian towns Saturday in a major escalation of the conflict that has left scores of civilians dead and wounded.

Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally that borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, launched a major offensive Friday to retake control of breakaway South Ossetia. Russia, which has close ties to the province and posts peacekeepers there, responded by sending in armed convoys and military combat aircraft.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters in Moscow that some 1,500 people have been killed, with the death toll rising Saturday.
The figure could not be independently confirmed, but witnesses who fled the fighting said hundreds of civilians had probably died. They said most of the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, was in ruins, with bodies lying everywhere.
The air and artillery bombardment left the provincial capital without water, food, electricity and gas. Horrified civilians crawled out of the basements into the streets as fighting eased, looking for supplies.
Russian Gen. Vladimir Boldyrev claimed in televised comments Saturday that Russian troops had driven Georgian forces out of the provincial capital. Witnesses confirmed that there was no sign of Georgian soldiers in the streets.

"Georgia is facing Russia's military aggression," Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili said, noting that Russian forces were attacking areas outside South Ossetia. "Georgian authorities support a cease-fire and separation of the warring parties."

As part of Saakashvili's proposal, Georgian troops were pulled out of Tskhinvali and had been ordered to stop responding to Russian shelling, said Alexander Lomaia, secretary of his Security Council. Russia did not immediately respond to Saakashvili's proposal.

Russian military aircraft also bombed the Georgian town of Gori on Saturday. An Associated Press reporter who visited Gori shortly afterward saw several apartment buildings in ruins, some still on fire, and scores of dead bodies and bloodied civilians. The elderly, women and children were among the victims.

It is the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won de facto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992.

The fighting threatens to ignite a wider war between Russia and Georgia, which accused Russia of bombing its towns, ports and air bases. Georgia, a former Soviet republic with ambitions of joining NATO, has asked the international community to help end what it called Russian aggression.
It also likely will increase tensions between Moscow and Washington, which Lavrov said should bear part of the blame for arming and training Georgian soldiers.

Moscow has said it needs to protect its peacekeepers and civilians in South Ossetia, most of whom have been given Russian passports. Ethnic Ossetians live in the breakaway Georgian province and in the neighboring Russian province of North Ossetia.

Russia's ambassador to NATO said his country is not at war, saying "our actions are limited by time, region and purpose."
"We take the view that NATO is not involved in the conflict," Dmitry Rogozin, told reporters in Brussels, accusing Saakashvili of trying to "internationalize" the South Ossetian conflict.
Rogozin said that Georgia's president "cannot imagine what it would be like to be at war with Russia."

Meanwhile, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin traveled to a region that neighbors Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia, according to Russian news reports.


Putin is to chair a meeting in Vladikavkaz, the provincial capital of the region of North Ossetia that neighbors the separatist Georgian province, to coordinate assistance to refugees who fled South Ossetia into the neighboring Russian region.

Lomaia said there had been direct fighting between Russian and Georgian soldiers on the streets of Tskhinvali. He estimated that Russia sent 2,500 troops into Georgia. The Russian military has not said how many of its troops were deployed.

Overnight, Russian warplanes bombed the Vaziani military base on the outskirts of the Georgian capital and near the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said. He also said two other military bases were hit, and that warplanes bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility.
Georgia, meanwhile, said it had shot down 10 Russian planes, including four brought down Saturday, according to Kakha Lomaya, head of Georgia's Security Council.

Russian military commanders said 15 peacekeepers had been killed and about 150 wounded. Russian troops went in as peacekeepers but Georgia alleges they now back the separatists.

Russian military spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov accused Georgian troops of killing and wounded Russian peacekeepers when they seized Russian checkpoints. Konashenkov's allegations couldn't be independently confirmed Saturday.

Russia's foreign minister said that Georgia brought the airstrikes upon itself by bombing civilians and Russian peacekeepers, and warned that the small Caucasus country should expect more attacks.

"Whatever side is used to bomb civilians and the positions of peacekeepers, this side is not safe and they should know this," Lavrov said.

Asked whether Russia could bomb the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, Lavrov answered: "I don't think the bombing is coming from Tbilisi, but whatever part of Georgia is used for this aggression is not safe."

It was unclear what might persuade either side to stop shooting. Both claim the battle started after the other side violated a cease-fire that had been declared just hours earlier after a week of sporadic clashes.

Diplomats have issued a flurry of statements calling on both sides to halt the fighting and called for another emergency session of the U.N. Security Council, its second since early Friday morning seeking to prevent an all-out war.

President Bush said Saturday the outbreak of fighting is endangering peace throughout the volatile region, and he urged an end to the deadly outbreak of violence.

"I'm deeply concerned about the situation in Georgia," Bush said in a statement to reporters while attending the Olympics in Beijing. "The attacks are occurring in regions of Georgia far from the zone of conflict in South Ossetia. They mark a dangerous escalation in the crisis.

"The violence is endangering regional peace, civilian lives have been lost and others are endangered. We have urged an immediate halt to the violence and a stand-down by all troops. We call for an end to the Russian bombings, and a return by the parties to the status quo of Aug. 6."

Russia, which has granted citizenship to most of the region's residents, appeared to lay much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington.

Georgia was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.

Georgia's President Mikhail Saakashvili, a U.S.-educated lawyer, long has pledged to restore Tbilisi's rule over South Ossetia and another breakaway province, Abkhazia. Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow.

Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili has called them home in the face of the South Ossetia fighting. The Georgian commander of the brigade in Iraq said Saturday they would leave as soon as transport can be arranged.
___ Associated Press writers Douglas Birch and Musa Sadulayev on the Russian-Georgian border, George Abdaladze in Gori, Georgia, Vladimir Isachenkov and Lynn Berry in Moscow, and Robert Wielaard in Brussels, Belgium contributed to this report.
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Let the Georgian government pay highly for their cooperation with NATO, the "western world" (as the president was kissing a$$), and their occupation in Iraq.

He's talking about Human Rights and international duty? where was he and his likes when Israel was raping Lebanon live on TV? Why didn't he open his mouth back then?

Walla that's what every occupier deserves, to be occupied back.
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Regardless of the dispute, there is absolutely no excuse for the harming of civilians. All my sympathies go to to the people of Georgia and South Ossetia, they do not deserve this.

I hope an immediate ceasefire is achieved.
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Another "Sanioura" who thought that he could step on others rights and get the help of NATO for it.

Another deceived US agent.(It's been a while that the US have been provoking Russia btw...Georgia will also pay for that))

And ordinary people will always pay the price and nobody will ever learn from the mistakes of others.

PS:Heard that Israel sent military experts to Georgia...Some important pipeline at stake over there.
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russia would take care once and for call of this corrupt zionist regime. the georgian regime is a terrorist one who oppresses all minorities.
HAVE TO AGREE THERE. Majority of minorities are armenians(8.1%), then russians (6.3 %)..
There is 160,000 armenians in javakh and 120,000 in tiblisi. They are treated badly. I hope russia kick their *** once & for all.

The georgian regime is terrorist.
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HAVE TO AGREE THERE. Majority of minorities are armenians(8.1%), then russians (6.3 %)..
There is 160,000 armenians in javakh and 120,000 in tiblisi. They are treated badly. I hope russia kick their *** once & for all.

The georgian regime is terrorist.
It all goes back to the Armenians .....
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Let the Georgian government pay highly for their cooperation with NATO, the "western world" (as the president was kissing a$$), and their occupation in Iraq.

He's talking about Human Rights and international duty? where was he and his likes when Israel was raping Lebanon live on TV? Why didn't he open his mouth back then?

Walla that's what every occupier deserves, to be occupied back.


Let's hope Russia's corrupt army of thugs do not repeat what the massacres they committed in Chechnya during the early 1990s. The US and EU should provide backup for Georgia if Russia does not stop its invasion.
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Hey LebaneseArab! Why not let Turkey bomb Armenia? Take a look at this interesting fact.

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In late 2004, Armenia deployed a unit of 46 soldiers, which included a logistic, medical and support soldiers to Iraq in support of the American-led Coalition. And in 2005, the United States allocated $7 million to modernize the military communications of the Armenian Armed Forces.
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Russians shot an israeli made drone used by the Georgians.... those oligarchy jews won't rest without taking their revenge from the Russian bear. where ever their is a conflict search for a jewish weasel


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هآرتس": الخارجية الاسرائيلية اوصت بتجميد بيع الاسلحة لجورجيا

10 آب 2008
اوصت وزارة الخارجية الاسرائيلية بتجميد مبيعات الاسلحة الاسرائيلية الى جورجيا خشية ردود فعل روسيا في حال استمرار هذه الصادرات كما افادت صحيفة "هآرتس" اليوم. ونقلت الصحيفة عن مسؤولين قولهم ان الخارجية تخشى ان تقوم موسكو ببيع اسلحة مضادة للطيران الى ايران وسورية في حال واصلت اسرائيل تسليم اسلحة الى جورجيا. وكانت هذه المخاوف ادت قبل حوالى سنة الى وقف مبيعات اسلحة "هجومية" اسرائيلية الى جورجيا التي لم تعد تتلق سوى معدات "دفاعية" ومساعدة من مستشارين عسكريين لا سيما من ضباط اسرائيليين سابقين يتولون تدريب وحدات جورجية.
وتابعت الصحيفة انه لم يتم الغاء العقود الموقعة الا انه تم تجميد لائحة طويلة من العقود التي ابرمت لكن لم تتم المصادقة عليها بشكل نهائي. وقال المسؤولون للصحيفة "على اسرائيل ان تتوخى الحذر الشديد. ان الروس يصدرون الكثير من الاسلحة لسوريية وايران ويجب عدم اعطائهم ذريعة لكي يبيعوا معدات متطورة لهاتين الدولتين".
واسرائيل قلقة خصوصا من احتمال تصدير روسيا نظاما دفاعيا مضادا للطيران من نوع "اس-300 "لايران ما سيزيد من صعوبة شن هجمات محتملة على منشآتها النووية.
وفي هذا السياق، رفض الناطق باسم الخارجية الاسرائيلية ارييه ميكيل الادلاء باي تعليق حول صادرات الاسلحة الى جورجيا.
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